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    Quote Originally Posted by Buildapanda View Post
    On what fights? I'm using it Chi Ji on Guldan right now and Parsing 100% for my Ilvl

    Proof

    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...8&type=healing

    How to trigger suplift 101 post a parse from a wipe and claim it as a legit rank
    what you just linked is irrelevant to what I just said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lellybaby View Post
    Here's the link.

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  3. #2763
    Revival is weak in dungeon, it is also the only spell with a mana cost that has no interaction with mastery. Revival has already been up with the new traits and 40s CD reduction but that's not enough for dungeon. Give Revival a direct mastery effect would solve the issue in 5 man content but would be too strong in raid.

    My suggestion is to give Revival the same interaction with mastery than Essence Font. Gust of Mists will heal twice the targets affected by Blessings of Yu'lon 6s hots.

    In raid 3 or 4 double mastery proc every 2m20 would be negligible but in dungeon with high haste/mastery stuff it will be a strong hps burst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenlady View Post
    Revival is weak in dungeon, it is also the only spell with a mana cost that has no interaction with mastery....

    Or they could easily make it heal twice the amount in 5 man content like Divine Hymn / Tranquility...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    Or they could easily make it heal twice the amount in 5 man content like Divine Hymn / Tranquility...
    thats to much work mw could be op then....i would welcome this change to HTT and Revival
    Last edited by Berthier; 2017-06-20 at 11:03 AM.

  6. #2766
    Why does the discord and peak of not advertising have diffferent trinket bis lists?

    1. Sea Star of the Depthmother (appears to be 50% chance on EF cast)
    2. Barbaric Mindslaver (not a smart heal, read Dhaubbs' pin for more info)
    3. Chalice of Moonlight (Either proc)
    4. The Deceiver's Grand Design (HoT only lasting 1 minute)
    5. Charm of the Rising Tide
    6. Archive of Faith(edited)

    Trinket 1 – The Deceiver's Grand Design
    Trinket 2 – Barbaric Mindslaver

    GREAT RESOURCECS IM PROUD TO BBBE A MEMBER of THE MISTWEAVER COMMUNITY
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    Wait So you complain about not being in the community all the time everywhere and now you bitch about its resources on day 1 where there's minimal logs? :thinking:

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    Quote Originally Posted by MistSi View Post
    Wait So you complain about not being in the community all the time everywhere and now you bitch about its resources on day 1 where there's minimal logs? :thinking:
    Why do you ban so many people in discord thinking it's me, I sometimes go in there and search my name and the amount of people you've banned thinking it's me is comical. My plan worked flawlessly, you need to work on your formula, you can't tell the difference. I only need to go nuclear once in awhile now. I'm not complaining, I'm just saying resources don't match and they are conflicting and they suck.
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    Without Geodew, MW community is a joke.

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    I can guarantee MW will still be shit in 7.2.5.

    Buff MW = Lose profit!

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    anyone else pulling some nice numbers on the new bosses? I'm definitely competing with our other healers currently when we mash joint throughput, not had a chance to fully test mana limitations yet though until heroic on Sunday but when some of our healers died and I actually had to heal instead of going for rank 1 dps on something like KJ the healing potential was pretty nice.

    Also I notice silence on these boards, usually means nothing to complain about, maybe the sky isn't falling as badly for MW as we thought?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaNinja View Post
    anyone else pulling some nice numbers on the new bosses? I'm definitely competing with our other healers currently when we mash joint throughput, not had a chance to fully test mana limitations yet though until heroic on Sunday but when some of our healers died and I actually had to heal instead of going for rank 1 dps on something like KJ the healing potential was pretty nice.

    Also I notice silence on these boards, usually means nothing to complain about, maybe the sky isn't falling as badly for MW as we thought?
    You don't understand how to read statistic correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaNinja View Post
    anyone else pulling some nice numbers on the new bosses? I'm definitely competing with our other healers currently when we mash joint throughput, not had a chance to fully test mana limitations yet though until heroic on Sunday but when some of our healers died and I actually had to heal instead of going for rank 1 dps on something like KJ the healing potential was pretty nice.

    Also I notice silence on these boards, usually means nothing to complain about, maybe the sky isn't falling as badly for MW as we thought?
    ????????? we've always been fine in Normal/HC because nothing matters there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie081 View Post
    ????????? we've always been fine in Normal/HC because nothing matters there
    uh mw is quite a bit better in heroic this time around compared to the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supliftz View Post
    uh mw is quite a bit better in heroic this time around compared to the past.
    No.

    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/statist...=hps&dataset=0

    The minimum proves bad discs and mws have been blocked out of the raid. 75% percentile is a meme

    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/statist...ps&dataset=100

    That was why I said people don't understand how to read statistic correctly.
    Last edited by cqwrteur; 2017-06-23 at 02:09 PM.

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    I am very torn between RJW and Chi-Ji for raiding. I keep hearing people saying that RJW for stacked fights and Chi-Ji for spread out fights, but you can always just stand in melee to have enough people to heal in most fights. So arguably that would make RJW the go to Talent for most fights.

    I am not sure I am conviced this is true. RJW will heal for more in most fights, but I think people in general are not incorporating the mana cost as well. So according to some rough calculations you would need to cast RJW aproximately 7 times to match the Healing of one Chi-Ji (Chi-Ji heals for 135*3*45=18225 and RJW heals for 429*6= 2574, therefore 18225/2574 = 7.08)(can someone verify this?).

    Lets say you cast Chi-Ji twice in a fight, you would need to cast 14 RJW to match its healing and spend 49% of Base mana. The problem is that for that 49% of Base mana you could also have cast 12.25 Vivify's etc.

    Chi-Ji will heal for less than RJW in a typical fight, but dont you also need to add the healing you would have gotten for the same mana (i.e. 12 Vivify's at minimum, although you could have used that mana for EFs etc).

    What do people think?

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    14 rjws in 3 minutes is a very, very low value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cqwrteur View Post
    No.

    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/statist...=hps&dataset=0

    The minimum proves bad discs and mws have been blocked out of the raid. 75% percentile is a meme

    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/statist...ps&dataset=100

    That was why I said people don't understand how to read statistic correctly.
    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/statist...hps&dataset=95

    idk mw seems pretty fine to me

  17. #2777
    while bum ass bird ass saves mana versus RJW, RJW saves mana versus your baseline healing kit

  18. #2778
    RJW is godly right now.
    Too bad it will be nerfed before mythic. They will never allow MW to outheal rshammys and trees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EVB View Post
    RJW is godly right now.
    Too bad it will be nerfed before mythic. They will never allow MW to outheal rshammys and trees.
    Source?

    History proves again. MW doesn't work without RJW and Chi burst. They should be baseline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supliftz View Post
    14 rjws in 3 minutes is a very, very low value.

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    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/statist...hps&dataset=95

    idk mw seems pretty fine to me
    95% is also pointless when minimum is very large.

    WCL metric is broken. They don't use any scientific metrics. No mathematical expectation and variance.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_distribution

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supliftz View Post
    14 rjws in 3 minutes is a very, very low value.
    Hmm. 14 RJW should be a little over 110 seconds duration( edit: assuming some haste and 8 sec duration), while 3 minutes is jsut 180 seconds. Thats casting RJW almost contanstly to break even with Chi-ji.

    It should be noted that 14 RJW does not include the additional healing you could have had with that mana if you had picked Chi-Ji. So if you include the mana (49% of Base) it would take closer to 19-20 RJWs to break even. and thats about 160 seconds worth of RJW to really break even with Chi-Ji.

    A fight though lasts a lot longer than 160 seconds, so maybe its worth it? On the other hand 160 seconds of RJW is also a lot, its not like we are casting it non-stop (or should we?). I guess I might just try both in each fight and compare.
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