[BREWMASTER] 7.X Discussion Thread

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What's good defensive trinkets with this fix? I used stamina trinkets and darkmoon armor trinket so far.

Recompiled Guardian Module is vendor trash, Shifting Cosmic Sliver is only useful if you really need the fort brew cd a little faster, dunno when that would be the case. Feverish Carapace is ok defensively, but I would say worse than a stat stick in general. You can probably stick with what you are using right now, unless you have a really high ilvl carapace, then you can use that.

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100% sure that 4pc won't stay 100%.

You can just get ~44% mastery and have 100% dodge after every BoF. Thus you have 100% dodge chance against bosses (as previously mentioned).

The most obvious band-aid buff to a set they don't understand one bit as is obvious from its design.

Mythic tests will be fun Friday at least.

But it is my class fantasy to never be hit by a boss....

[Gorsameth]

RJW would still be worth pressing though.

And wow, they fixed all those trinkets ... now? Yay, I guess?

Edit: With the new 4pc, we can BoF after every dodge, giving us 2 stacks of EB. Smells a little like 100% dodge on single target.

Would that matter tho?

When was the last time that boss auto attacks were dangerous to a tank? The stuff that is going to kill a tank can't be dodged anyway.

[keqe]

Would that matter tho?

When was the last time that boss auto attacks were dangerous to a tank? The stuff that is going to kill a tank can't be dodged anyway.

Neither is anything in this game at full HP. And with 100% dodge you are at full HP all time. The "aa isn't dangerous" is a meme at this point. It is still a catalyst to all tank deaths.

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Would that matter tho?

When was the last time that boss auto attacks were dangerous to a tank? The stuff that is going to kill a tank can't be dodged anyway.

It is still in most fights the absolute majority of your damage intake. I mean sure it isn't deadly alone but a lot of tank stuff only becomes dangerous because you are taking melee damage anyway (exception this tier is Goroth and even there it would allow you some shenanigans). Look at Avatar for example. If you only needed to deal with the devastate damage, it would be harmless. You would require almost no healing either. Same thing goes for Sisters (ok, relatively trivial anyway, but so what) and DI (you wouldn't take damage and you wouldn't need to go down). Sure it might not make you immune, but 100% dodge for the majority of all damage and stagger for undodgeable spikes seems a tad OP.

[keqe]

Can't wait to play this. So interesting and dynamic.

https://gfycat.com/BlackIdealisticDesertpupfish

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Have fun in testing then^^

I would really like to know if/what they were thinking. Maybe someone needs to send them a log of 100% missed melee hits on a boss fight.

[ReD-EyeD]

Can't wait to play this. So interesting and dynamic.

https://gfycat.com/BlackIdealisticDesertpupfish

That's golden. I expected it to be like this, but this is even more ridiculous.

[Evilmoo]

Can't wait to play this. So interesting and dynamic.

https://gfycat.com/BlackIdealisticDesertpupfish

Pls record M+ pulls with it?

[dcc626]

Can't wait to play this. So interesting and dynamic.

https://gfycat.com/BlackIdealisticDesertpupfish

yeah, no way this goes live. or if it does it gets dunked hard right before mythic week,

[keqe]

yeah, no way this goes live. or if it does it gets dunked hard right before mythic week,

I expect that the tier will be nerfed to be worse than it was before "buff". Gets hammered as hard it was buffed.

Then nerfs for T20 so people won't keep using a good bonus.

[anon5123]

What's good defensive trinkets with this fix? I used stamina trinkets and darkmoon armor trinket so far.

According to brewmaster discord, those trinkets are still kinda bad, but just a little less bad than before.

Best is still writhing heart of darkness + darkmoon card

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According to brewmaster discord, those trinkets are still kinda bad, but just a little less bad than before.

Good to know, as I have disenchanted my 940 carapace after seeing it proc (or actually "crap") over a few m+ runs before the "fix".

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There is the option to restore that item, but it probably isn't worth it.

[dcc626]

Good to know, as I have disenchanted my 940 carapace after seeing it proc (or actually "crap") over a few m+ runs before the "fix".

well, the agility on a 940 is always good, and i saw something about 40%+ uptime. might want to restore it and play around with it

[Evilmoo]

well, the agility on a 940 is always good, and i saw something about 40%+ uptime. might want to restore it and play around with it

Darkmoon & Good statstick (agi+crit, agi+mastery, agi-verst) for single target
Darkmoon & Withering Heart for M+

[keqe]

4pc seems to be really unreliable. It feels like it has some kind of inner CD that is sync with the usual boss AA timer. It sometimes just doesn't reset the CD. If mob has faster attack speed like dummy in class hall if only works on every second dodge.

On Varimathas test it felt it didn't work at all. Thought it was hotfixed but after raid I went to argus for a test and it worked like it used to. Maybe lag makes it worse.

Kind of annoying to have a broken bonus that isn't OP because it doesn't really work.

[Julmara]

hows gonna bet they oversee this and just nerf brew to the ground for no reason ?

[Felfaadaern Darkterror]

So... will the T21 four piece make Sal'salabim's Lost Tunic obsolete? When we are resetting Breath of Fire constantly anyway? Kind of bummed, tbh, because it's the luckiest drop I've gotten on this toon, my best lego and one of the fun things about playing him, and now it seems like it's being made irrelevant. :\

[antico]

well, the agility on a 940 is always good, and i saw something about 40%+ uptime. might want to restore it and play around with it

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[Felfaadaern Darkterror]

T20 gave us more self heals, which was one real hole in our tanking toolkit. Brewmasters are built more around smoothing/delaying damage than healing it. We do have some self heals, but fairly weak compared to most tanks. We joined Warriors in being more reliant on our healers than DKs, DHs, Pallies, or Bears.

T20 helped with that by proc'ing our self heals more often. T21, on the other hand, gives us more dodge. We already dodge. A lot. I can't say I've ever caught myself thinking "If only I had more dodge, this spec would play so much better." But I've frequently been grateful for the increased self healing from the T20 two piece set bonus.

Is it just me? Or is T21 a significant step backwards from T20 for Brewmaster?