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    Demonology: Hand of Gul'dan & Implosion as ST talent choice?

    Hey there, I just leveled my Warlock to 100 today (after I spent over 12 months without WoW and just returned because of Legion) and I really like the new Demolock.

    You must know that I am a Warlock newbie (I played WL in Classic and TBC but since then he's been just a twink).

    How do I spend my Soulshards when Dreadstalkers are on CD? Implosion is a huge damage skill especially when used with a 4 shard HoG - I tend to play with Shadowflame and Implosion and it turned out to be quite nice.

    Is there a guide for all the different Demo talent specs or something like that? If yes, I would like to read it if not it would be great if we could discuss my questions here.

    Thanks for reading!

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    Generally the current basic rotation is: Empower demons to get 5 shards at pull, apply doom, cast HoG if you have 4-5 shards, empower demons instantly, cast demonbolt(if specced)/shadowbolt to fill shards.

    Have a look on icy-veins.com for a more detailed guide.

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    There is literally a Demo guide stickied.

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...monology-Guide

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smog View Post
    There is literally a Demo guide stickied.

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...monology-Guide
    Damn, beat me to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smog View Post
    There is literally a Demo guide stickied.

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...monology-Guide
    lol, thanks. The "Nots" irritated me that much that I stopped reading that it's a Demo guide.

    Nevertheless, I would like to discuss the ST possibility of Implosion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    lol, thanks. The "Nots" irritated me that much that I stopped reading that it's a Demo guide.

    Nevertheless, I would like to discuss the ST possibility of Implosion.
    It has been discussed in great detail in the Beta Demonology thread. It is a small loss on ST and a huge gain in any Cleave or AoE fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by striderZA View Post
    Damn, beat me to it.
    Gotta go fast.
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    The guide is a bit unclear on this though. It sounds like you want to use it on ST too IF you chose the talent.
    Or do you mean it's a small DPS loss over picking one of the other talents?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZee View Post
    The guide is a bit unclear on this though. It sounds like you want to use it on ST too IF you chose the talent.
    Well, yes, of course you would. But it's not a talent you should have in a pure ST encounter. As the guide and the stickied beta thread both explain, you Implosion immediately following the cast of your next HoG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZee View Post
    The guide is a bit unclear on this though. It sounds like you want to use it on ST too IF you chose the talent.
    Or do you mean it's a small DPS loss over picking one of the other talents?
    Yes if you have it, you use it all the time. Mostly straight after you cast a new HoG to murder your old imps into glorious explosions.

    Atm it seems like a ST loss over Improved Dreadstalkers, but with talent switching being a pain, it's only a small loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amorelie View Post
    Generally the current basic rotation is: Empower demons to get 5 shards at pull,
    what do you mean by "Empower demons to get 5 shards at pull" ?
    That's not how the spell works

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    Quote Originally Posted by VladimirM View Post
    what do you mean by "Empower demons to get 5 shards at pull" ?
    That's not how the spell works
    You used to be able to do it with the power trip talent but it has since been changed to only work in combat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VladimirM View Post
    what do you mean by "Empower demons to get 5 shards at pull" ?
    That's not how the spell works
    if you had had chosen Power Trip as talent, you were able to get 5 shards before pull.
    But they hotfixed it.

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