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    Hello guys, I have two relics : 915 with chaos nova trait (pretty useless), and 905 with chaos blade trait. It's better to lose 10ilvl and gain a better trait ?

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    Dont look at relic ilvl but on how much its increase weapon ilvl. If I remember right Critical Chaos (theres no chaos blade trait) is worth 3 ilv so if the upgrade is more then go for ilvl.

  3. #2263
    Does crit affect your auto attack/demon blades (other than the obvious damage increase)? I haven't seen any mention of it in the tooltip, guide, or wowhead, but I want to make sure. I'm severely undergeared and believe haste may be a better stat for me without simming everytime I get a gear upgrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmashNDash15 View Post
    Does crit affect your auto attack/demon blades (other than the obvious damage increase)? I haven't seen any mention of it in the tooltip, guide, or wowhead, but I want to make sure. I'm severely undergeared and believe haste may be a better stat for me without simming everytime I get a gear upgrade.
    No, it doesn't. Crit does increase your damage output more than haste would, unless you're about to hit a breakpoint. Also, crit is pretty much the best stat for single target anyways, unless your haste is very low.

    And to be honest, why not sim potential upgrades when simming is easier than ever?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sendula View Post
    No, it doesn't. Crit does increase your damage output more than haste would, unless you're about to hit a breakpoint. Also, crit is pretty much the best stat for single target anyways, unless your haste is very low.

    And to be honest, why not sim potential upgrades when simming is easier than ever?
    I'd like to sim my stats to get a baseline right now, but Simcraft importing doesn't work for me. I know crit is highly prioritized in chaos builds, and mastery is a fairly high priority in demonic builds.

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    Also Ask Mr. Robot doesn't find my characters for importing either. There must be another problem with the API.

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    Get the simcraft addon, /simc in game, ctrl+C and you can paste the results, it should work with the newest addon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmashNDash15 View Post
    I'd like to sim my stats to get a baseline right now, but Simcraft importing doesn't work for me. I know crit is highly prioritized in chaos builds, and mastery is a fairly high priority in demonic builds.

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    Also Ask Mr. Robot doesn't find my characters for importing either. There must be another problem with the API.
    AMR is dreadful, never use it. Simbots is a great option if you aren't familiar with, or simply can't use simcraft as it uses simcraft itself and places a easy to use ui over it.

    If you that's not even an option, a good rule of thumb is that crit will always be better for both your standard cb raiding build and demonic. Hastes value will skyrocket if your crit hits about 40% before haste reaches around 11-13%. Reason being is at certain haste levels you will get additional death sweeps inside meta and cb.

    Masterys value in the cb build will almost always be lower than everything except agility at current gear levels. As for demonic it's value fluctuates with haste based whether or not more haste will get you additional sweeps inside ur demonic window.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmashNDash15 View Post
    I'd like to sim my stats to get a baseline right now, but Simcraft importing doesn't work for me. I know crit is highly prioritized in chaos builds, and mastery is a fairly high priority in demonic builds.

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    Also Ask Mr. Robot doesn't find my characters for importing either. There must be another problem with the API.
    Raidbots 2.0 is an easy way to sim and compare your gear. Get the simcraft addon so you can copy/paste your stats easily then import it to raidbots

  9. #2269
    Hey, guys, how highly you would rank Shadow-Singed Fang(ilvl 945) for both t20 and t21 build? My other trinkets are 880 arcano with socket, 915 Infernal Cinders and 920 Eye of Command. Is it even worth it to be a long term investment since it costs a lot EP and I still have option to give it away to someone else. Tnx!

    p.s. can't sim it without equipping it(I guess) so that's why I ask here, and also I m more interested in general opinion rather than sim.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowfury View Post
    Hey, guys, how highly you would rank Shadow-Singed Fang(ilvl 945) for both t20 and t21 build? My other trinkets are 880 arcano with socket, 915 Infernal Cinders and 920 Eye of Command. Is it even worth it to be a long term investment since it costs a lot EP and I still have option to give it away to someone else. Tnx!

    p.s. can't sim it without equipping it(I guess) so that's why I ask here, and also I m more interested in general opinion rather than sim.
    Get the item ID and plug that into simcraft, should be able to run it that way without equipping it. Other than that, I don't know what to tell you, I don't know what that trinket does. Don't even know what the DH community consensus on BiS is because Blizz has fucked us so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowfury View Post
    Hey, guys, how highly you would rank Shadow-Singed Fang(ilvl 945) for both t20 and t21 build? My other trinkets are 880 arcano with socket, 915 Infernal Cinders and 920 Eye of Command. Is it even worth it to be a long term investment since it costs a lot EP and I still have option to give it away to someone else. Tnx!

    p.s. can't sim it without equipping it(I guess) so that's why I ask here, and also I m more interested in general opinion rather than sim.

    You can sim it through Raidbots even if it isnt equipped. I guess not for t21 but you can see with your current gear

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    So what's the verdict on gettin' this thing updated?

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    Got the Varimathras trinket yesterday (950) and replaced it with an 880 arkano.
    Holy Shit! This trinket is hell. 8-15% of my Overall dmg.
    Smells like nerf
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    Quote Originally Posted by hockenberry View Post
    Got the Varimathras trinket yesterday (950) and replaced it with an 880 arkano.
    Holy Shit! This trinket is hell. 8-15% of my Overall dmg.
    Smells like nerf
    Hopefully I ll get it as well and we can hope they don't nerf it ^^

    And Shadow-Singed Fang procs like crazy so I got even better version this week(955), can say I m pleased with it, will replace it tho with Varimathras' trinket or from Argus whenever I get one of these


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowfury View Post
    Hopefully I ll get it as well and we can hope they don't nerf it ^^
    They buffed it
    Oh and i‘ve got my argus trinket yesterday.
    Trinkets are so done this addon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teevo View Post
    So what's the verdict on gettin' this thing updated?
    Going to (try to) get it updated this week. Been super busy (got a real estate license ) and out of the house a lot of the day almost every day of the week

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanyali View Post
    Going to (try to) get it updated this week. Been super busy (got a real estate license ) and out of the house a lot of the day almost every day of the week
    Got my Argus-Trinket AND an upgrade-token this week.
    Sad fact: it's currently worse then my 940 crit stat stick
    Gotta wait till its >= 970.

    Question:

    940 crit-stick or 970 arkano?
    Sims equal ( )
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    hello my fellow demon hunters, I think I have a problem. As a talent I picked "demon blades" but there is something wrong, there come moments when all I have is on CD , meaning my "felblade" and "chaos strike", and nothing to generate fury with and in these moments I think I lose DPS, any advice on what to do ?

    thanks !

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    Collect more crit and try to plan your fury regen better. Also make sure you have the Anger of the half giants ring, it is essential for a smooth rotation. Additionally use throw glaive and Fel Rush if if you have downtimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Accendor View Post
    Collect more crit and try to plan your fury regen better. Also make sure you have the Anger of the half giants ring, it is essential for a smooth rotation. Additionally use throw glaive and Fel Rush if if you have downtimes.
    ok, thank you !

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