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  1. #1921
    What else would you use? Triple Thrash is the biggest dps increase in all situations.
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  2. #1922
    Quote Originally Posted by Dogooder View Post
    Are we supposed to still use 3 Trash relics or not?
    what changed in Antorus or for bears that makes you think it would change?

  3. #1923
    Some people play a moonfire focused build with Lady and the Child and Fury of Nature. Thrash relics are much less of a big deal for them, maybe Mangle relics might even creep up on pure single target. But you should stick with Thrash relics anyway, to give you build flexibility and aoe damage.
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  4. #1924
    And of course "why not both" - your best relics will be thrash with mangle on the crucible or vice-versa.
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  5. #1925
    Even with LaTC/FoN combo, thrash dominates. Thrash/TtW/Mangle is BiS on relics by far.
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  6. #1926
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    With Fury of Nature, would it be better to still run Pulverize or go Lunar Beam?

  7. #1927
    With Fury, you are running an offensive build, so you take Rend and Tear. Pulverize is only good if you don't run legs and care about damage reduction and Lunar Beam is just shit (or was when I simmed the last time and nothing changed since then afaik).

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    Edit: What is your second leggie though?
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  8. #1928
    Quote Originally Posted by Bunnychaser View Post
    It's worse in some situations, actually. Elize is > LatC for pure single target depending on the ilvl of your non-legendary pieces in those slots.
    Quote Originally Posted by david0925 View Post
    Luffa simmed higher for me than Elize when using Cloak+ one of them for ST purposes. I had 930 bracers and 955 pants so maybe that will change based on what you have in each of those slots as well.
    Aha, cheers both for the response

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  9. #1929
    Last week I picked up the Argus tanking trinket (945 currently) and the Eye of Shatug/F'harg (945).

    How are these trinkets shaping up? Typically I've been running:

    Moonglaives (915) and the Carapace (930) from Goroth. Think it'd be worth switching trinkets up at all?

  10. #1930
    Quote Originally Posted by Exigent View Post
    Last week I picked up the Argus tanking trinket (945 currently) and the Eye of Shatug/F'harg (945).

    How are these trinkets shaping up? Typically I've been running:

    Moonglaives (915) and the Carapace (930) from Goroth. Think it'd be worth switching trinkets up at all?
    Def:
    eye is mathematically worse than darkmoon trinket.
    Argus trinket seems nice but only when the raid has enough to proc.
    Off:
    Glaives win.

  11. #1931
    So I got the Norganon's Agility trinket today (cause pew pew), currently @950, but I'm sim'ing lower than my old default Alchemist Stone/Moonglaves (925 socketed) combo even in ST. Didn't do any homework, thought it would be an upgrade. Sad bear is sad.

    1. Is there a point that this will change because of the ilvl upgrades?
    2. Does that change in a raid environment because of secondary buff from the other raid trinkets?

  12. #1932
    Quote Originally Posted by Selerian View Post
    So I got the Norganon's Agility trinket today (cause pew pew), currently @950, but I'm sim'ing lower than my old default Alchemist Stone/Moonglaves (925 socketed) combo even in ST. Didn't do any homework, thought it would be an upgrade. Sad bear is sad.

    1. Is there a point that this will change because of the ilvl upgrades?
    2. Does that change in a raid environment because of secondary buff from the other raid trinkets?
    1. Probably
    2. Probably

    The trinkets need to be simmed. No idea how though.

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