Yet another Timewalking loot post ( As directed by GM)
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What game first sparked your interest in gaming? Was it World of Warcraft?
Did Blizzard just hotfix an ilvl requirement onto Awakened LFR?
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Can someone help explain how PVP gear scales in bgs and arena? I know it is about item level but do the stats count? For example if I have a 810 ilvl trinket that gives pure straight agility does the agility actually help while in PVP combat or would it just be better to get a higher ilvl trinket with different and less preferable stats? Basically do the stats on the gear count or just the ilvl?
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2016-09-11, 06:44 PM #1Keyboard Turner
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PVP Scaling
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2016-09-11, 06:51 PM #2Brewmaster
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No stat functions in instanced PvP. Only your stat template matters, and that only takes into account your ilvl.
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2016-09-11, 06:56 PM #3Keyboard Turner
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so trinkets are completely useless? just slots for getting ilvl?
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2016-09-11, 06:59 PM #4Banned
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2016-09-11, 07:33 PM #5Deleted
Does this apply to PvP trinkets though. Would seem weird to have those aswell as procc and on use effects but not having them do anything.
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2016-09-11, 08:04 PM #6Deletedsadly it does, which is beyond stupid imo having pvp trinkets with on use/equip effects which cant even be used isnt instanced pvp ... legion PvP is 100% item level and AP Originally Posted by Deleth
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2016-09-11, 09:16 PM #7Deleted
It makes the whole system weird and badly thought true. Right now it feels as if the entire thing was thrown together at the last minute. Both the balancing is off and the itemization makes very little sense with PvE being the main source and most reliable source for gear for PvP being an absurdity. Worse it's easier to grind Honor through PvE aswell. Just wtf.
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2016-09-11, 09:56 PM #8The Patient
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Disabling trinkets, set bonuses, and other equipment bonuses (like legendaries) in PvP in favor of honor talents makes a lot of sense. It reduces burst, so the PvE itemization group can make trinkets do whatever and not have to worry about "lol insta-gib". It also lets the developers tune PvP better.
The reason you have trinkets with procs or on-use abilities obtained from PvP is so that you can have gear which you can take into PvE.
PvP stat templates help, especially if your PvP optimal stats differ from PvE. However, if Blizzard didn't pick the right PvP template for your spec, you're kinda screwed.
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2016-09-12, 01:47 AM #9Pandaren Monk
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Rated PvP isn't even out yet man... Originally Posted by Deleth
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2016-09-12, 01:56 AM #10DeletedAnd that changes what? Oh right. Nothing. So why bring it up? Originally Posted by barrsftw
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2016-09-12, 02:40 AM #11Titan
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Burst is high right now. Originally Posted by Exedore
The templates don't handicap the artifact weapon ilevel increases though which means damage is going to scale out of control.
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When rated PVP comes out players are going to discover a worse system than there was for WotLK Season 1 and 2 where the ladders are stratified by gear barriers and the bottom of the ladder falls out as a result. Originally Posted by barrsftw
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2016-09-12, 03:41 AM #12Pandaren Monk
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Blizzard said that you'll get more honor from rated, also better gear and more frequently. Originally Posted by Deleth
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2016-09-12, 05:23 PM #13Stood in the Fire
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In before RBG's groups requiring 850 ilvl and Honor Level 50. Originally Posted by barrsftw
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2016-09-12, 05:28 PM #14Field Marshal
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LOL Originally Posted by Exedore
Oh, wait, you're serious. Apologies for laughing. People are currently getting globaled though, disabling didn't stop this, but I guess it wouldn't help having them enabled either..
Such is life.. I guess.YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/therealslayer
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2016-09-12, 06:12 PM #15Dreadlord
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In theory it makes the game much easier to balance, and I'm fine with that. The pvp community was asking for normalised gear/stats in pvp for years ever since pve gear was abused in arena in burning crusade. Personally I couldn't care less about whether or not we have pvp gear since there hasn't been anything interesting about it for a long time, it was just a grind every expansion and nothing else. Originally Posted by Deleth
The problem is the lack of balance and how some templates are so out of whack.
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2016-09-13, 12:25 PM #16Mechagnome
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How are people getting "globaled"?
This is the 1st expansion where I don't feel like I die in 2 seconds xD
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2016-09-13, 02:42 PM #17Mechagnome
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Took me some while to get used to the idea that stats & trinket abilities didn't matter at all for PvP.
Just iLvL. Though I noticed wearing a shield does still improve armor.
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2016-09-13, 03:22 PM #18Stood in the Fire
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Try to pvp with a shadow and you will know the pain Originally Posted by Grishnaar
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2016-09-13, 04:19 PM #19High Overlord
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Or an enhancement shaman >.< Originally Posted by Dismembered
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2016-09-13, 04:38 PM #20The Lightbringer
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If by this time you believe anything coming from Blizzard, especially vague feel-good crap like "better gear and more frequently" which means almost nothing and could mean anything - then I have some lovely unicorns and kittens I'd like to sell ya. Originally Posted by barrsftw
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