1. #2241
    Quote Originally Posted by kail View Post
    And yet fighting 3-4 mobs at a time will always feel somewhat different because of their movements and ability to keep themselves alive. It's not just a bunch them up and AoE that almost all other MMOs entail.
    But it basically is? There is no difference in their movements and ability to keep themselves alive. Every mob has a distinct script that it follows, there is nothing out of the blue or surprising in their actions. Every wolf you encounter will always follow the exact same script, as I said. Every zombie, every ghost will always to the same set of actions, no matter who you are or how you fight.

    In the end you exactly do what you said, you're bringing them to a place and AoE them down. The only difference is that mobs can stagger you, that's something you cannot do to them, but besides that the AI is as simple as it gets, always repeating the script that's programmed into them.

    Just look at this short clip from 5:51 on (the important part starts at 6:10 - it's the footage shown, not what the guy says):


    The mobs don't have a mentionable AI, they follow you (as long as you're the player with the highest level in their aggro range).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cempa View Post
    The one thing I did not like the most is that I can not key bind Ctrl+1 instead of Q. I will try changing Q/R/F to 1/2/3 and weapon switch to Q and see if that improves my reaction time.
    If your mouse has mouse buttons, I highly suggest binding your weapons to them. That's what I did and it made a massive difference. Weapon 1 is upper, weapon 2 is lower mouse button. Weapon swap is still as clunky as it gets, but way more controlable.

    For skills I did the same as you said, got them 1 2 3 while buffood / potions got 4 5 6 7.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    Just look at this short clip from 5:51 on (the important part starts at 6:10):

    thats exactly what i was reffering to 2 days ago.

    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...1#post53417421

    this is unprecedented to lock character creation for new players on high pop servers, which are needed for the economy, just because they counldnt handle server issues
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    Quote Originally Posted by Proskill View Post
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    How is it unprecedented since MMOs in the past do this on high population servers, if you want to play on a certain server you should of already had a char made on it so its the players own fault for not even logging in once to create a char on a server since you never needed to get into a server to create one.

    Its also just a temporary measure, either wait for server transfers or play on a different server.
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  4. #2244
    Quote Originally Posted by Proskill View Post
    thats exactly what i was reffering to 2 days ago.

    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...1#post53417421

    this is unprecedented to lock character creation for new players on high pop servers, which are needed for the economy, just because they counldnt handle server issues
    Pretty sure FF14 locks character creation if a server is to busy.
    Its hardly unprecedented.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

  5. #2245
    Quote Originally Posted by Proskill View Post
    this is unprecedented to lock character creation for new players on high pop servers, which are needed for the economy, just because they counldnt handle server issues
    New players are not needed for the economy. You don't have to leave zones the same as you would in other games and are encouraged to still do things in the lower zones. Town Board projects scale and sometimes even require you to craft things not found in that zone. Faction quests do offer better rewards in the higher zones but doing them quicker/easier can be beneficial.

    And since even high level resources are in the low level zones (or low level in high level zones) it means you can go there to farm. The only thing needed for the game to function properly is activity. So owning one of the starter zones ensures an easier tax income to fund upgrades. Since activity is higher.

    Also doesn't the game cap server population at 2,000? So new characters would stop at some point anyways.
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  6. #2246
    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    Pretty sure FF14 locks character creation if a server is to busy.
    Its hardly unprecedented.
    In context it kinda is.
    If the server economy depends on it and all.

    It sounds kinda dumb to do it then.

    But the system itself sounds flawed and doesn't fit in the first place.
    You won't have an endless stream of new characters/players. At some point in time they have to change it anyway, so I don't understand why they made it like that in the first place.

  7. #2247
    Quote Originally Posted by Onikaroshi View Post
    That's why, before I buy a new MMO, I always ask... does it have the content I like? Dungeons/raids i.e. Strong end game pve.

    Which is also the reason I never bought this, the leveling was fun and interesting in the open beta, but end game is lacking for someone looking for these things.
    If anything - if you do enjoy the leveling process enough, maybe its smart to atleast enjoy your time with that without rushing it. Reach 60 and later down the road amazon releases new content to do. At that point you are 60 and can jump in at any time!

  8. #2248
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    Just look at this short clip from 5:51 on (the important part starts at 6:10 - it's the footage shown, not what the guy says):
    Showing a footage of one frost gauntlet (the game's frost mage) that is almost 10 levels above that spot he's farming? That doesn't show much on the challenge the game's AI provides over most other MMOs. Ghosts are notoriously annoying with their mobility and element-specific abilities, archer character have their different abilities outside of auto shots, enemies have 2-3 different abilities outside of their auto-attack that matters on when to dodge/block. I could go on but the experience when dealing with tough multipacks especially in elite zones will feel different every time.

    I'm not claiming that this is anything close to groundbreaking but it offers far more variety in how to tackle outdoor PvE compared to every other MMO I've played.
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    so now im level 52. ive done the same light and heavy attack at least 300k plus times. at level 40 i was at around 100k. i imagine by max level ill use the light attack well over 500-600k times. there is nothing fun about the combat system. the game is great. the combat is absolutely horrid. weapon talent moves are use on CD and do just a tad more damage than a heavy attack. its like no thought was put into the combat. against pve enemy attack, attack, block and/or dodge , attack attack. or attack, attack, special, attack. repeat off CD. every single time.

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    I've been debating worth giving this game a try or buying D2R. Anyone have some honest thoughts after launch of NW?

  12. #2252
    Quote Originally Posted by Khaza-R View Post
    I've been debating worth giving this game a try or buying D2R. Anyone have some honest thoughts after launch of NW?
    It's okay. For $40 one can get a lot of fun out of it as an adventure game.

    The setting is great and rather unique. Everything else is pretty aggressively average.

    You gotta kinda vibe with the style and theme of the game to really enjoy it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by craigw View Post
    so now im level 52. ive done the same light and heavy attack at least 300k plus times. at level 40 i was at around 100k. i imagine by max level ill use the light attack well over 500-600k times. there is nothing fun about the combat system. the game is great. the combat is absolutely horrid. weapon talent moves are use on CD and do just a tad more damage than a heavy attack. its like no thought was put into the combat. against pve enemy attack, attack, block and/or dodge , attack attack. or attack, attack, special, attack. repeat off CD. every single time.
    While the combat system is far from perfect, this is pretty reductive. If you chose a boring weapon and aren't swapping that's on you. It's like playing a demon hunter in wow and complaining because you can afk and do top damage in a dungeon. Pick one with combos and intereactions such as the spear or the rapier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    Just look at this short clip from 5:51 on (the important part starts at 6:10 - it's the footage shown, not what the guy says):


    The mobs don't have a mentionable AI, they follow you (as long as you're the player with the highest level in their aggro range).
    I’m not going to take the opinion of that guy particularly seriously—he rushed to 60 and is surprised at the lack of endgame.

    In New world the endgame is the game. That s it. There’s nothing else. It’s the same RuneScape-with-pretty-graphics all the way through.

    If you like that, then play it. Me, I’ll play a few hours at a time while I’m raidlogging in WoW. It’s better content than Korthia.

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    My question is..

    Is it time for MMO-Champion to make a page for New World news etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by voskopoula View Post
    My question is..

    Is it time for MMO-Champion to make a page for New World news etc?
    If they haven't done it with FFXIV, they won't do it with NW
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidism View Post
    I think many people want/need a WoW 2.0 tbh.
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    How the fuck is this trolling?

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  18. #2258
    Quote Originally Posted by pahbi View Post
    I'm almost level 20, and its getting to where I have to use 2 weapons.

    Honestly, I'm not sure I'm really a fan of the added complexity of constantly changing weapons.

    I hope this is just something that is done at lower levels, and once I get to the end game where groups are more common, it won't be necessary anymore.
    I'm only level 40, but I would assume that the 'changing weapons' style will be way more prevalent at later levels and higher-end gameplay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelangel View Post
    I’m not going to take the opinion of that guy particularly seriously—he rushed to 60 and is surprised at the lack of endgame.

    In New world the endgame is the game. That s it. There’s nothing else. It’s the same RuneScape-with-pretty-graphics all the way through.
    and I bet you loved slogging through WoW Classic without using player run Boost Services.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelangel View Post
    I’m not going to take the opinion of that guy particularly seriously—he rushed to 60 and is surprised at the lack of endgame.
    He basically did not do any of that as he said in the video. He hasn't even reached max level yet, but to know that you would need to watch the video from start to end. New World massively lacks PvE endgame content. But that's not what this video is about. He's talking about in game economy and server structure after Amazon opened so many servers (of which most are already dead or have an active playerbase of <500) and the upcoming transfer / server merges and how they're going to kill server economies and faction ratios.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khaza-R View Post
    I've been debating worth giving this game a try or buying D2R. Anyone have some honest thoughts after launch of NW?
    Don't buy it for full price unless you are really, really, really into very grindy and repetitive games (because that's 99% of the PvE content). If you like running around a lot (and I mean a lot, a quest basically is 75% running and 25% action) you can give it a shot, if you're very much into Gathering & Crafting as well. But if you're primarily a PvE player you really should think about it again.
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