[Megathread] Amazon's New World MMO

[rogoth]

I think I've got like 3-4K gold right now. I haven't even checked AH prices, but I probably should since I've been spending a fair amount of time harvesting and have some somewhat rare low/mid-level crafting materials. I usually just tunnel vision the solo game and don't bother with AH's and whatnot until endgame, but might be worth seeing if I can pad out my gold a bit since I imagine we'll need quite a lot of that over time.

don't know what it's like on your server, but the one i'm on atm is popping with untapped markets if you have the materials to go and make stuff with, steel tools are especially lucrative especially if you can get them with the +luck stat, most of those versions are selling for 1k gold each with the other steel variants being ~500g each, definitely worth looking into stuff as a way to tap up some easy gold early on, i had enough gold to buy my first home yesterday and with some of the random drops and quest rewards i was able to furnish it in a pretty minimalistic way to fit the aesthetic of the first light zone.

[Edge-]

i had enough gold to buy my first home yesterday and with some of the random drops and quest rewards i was able to furnish it in a pretty minimalistic way to fit the aesthetic of the first light zone.

I remember reading you get a discount on your first home purchase? Is that accurate? Because if so I'm totes saving that shit for a house in the higher level zones, I can live without housing (unless it would make me miss out on something big).

[rogoth]

I remember reading you get a discount on your first home purchase? Is that accurate? Because if so I'm totes saving that shit for a house in the higher level zones, I can live without housing (unless it would make me miss out on something big).

you do get a discount on your first home purchase (50% off), however i doubt you can do that long without buying one as you get a 4h hearthstone for your home which is independent of your inn hearthstone, plus if you wanna be super vain about it there's a points scoring system for houses in each settlement and you get ranked based on that points total lol, plus there's some properties in each hamlet that are relatively cheap so you could easily amass a chunk of gold right now and buy 2-3 houses so you have property in each of the main hubs.

[Captain Proton]

with current system game eventually will run itself into corner
with no possible way to lose gear and inability to create alt everyone will be geared eventually and craft will become obsolete

this game without full loot pvp will suffer

This makes no sense. New content will come with new recipes for armor. Just like in wow when everyone is geared up through raids and can't gear up further, they wait until the next content drop and new gear comes. It doesn't matter if its crafted or dropped, its the same shit.

[rhorle]

you do get a discount on your first home purchase (50% off)

You also get a discount if your faction controls the town. The more expensive homes can see a pretty big discount so you might not want to waste the first house on a cheap one since the hearth can be as low as 2 hours.

[Redwyrm]

How are the quests in the game? Fun? Storywise/Lore heavy? Is there a main threat (LK equivalent?)

[Edge-]

How are the quests in the game? Fun? Storywise/Lore heavy? Is there a main threat (LK equivalent?)

Standard fair so far, kill/collect X or talk to Y etc. But it's well paced and enjoyable enough. Story/lore wise I have no clue, I haven't read a thing.

[Clozer]

How are the quests in the game? Fun? Storywise/Lore heavy? Is there a main threat (LK equivalent?)

The main quests are pretty good. But the side quests are horrible.

"This random dude betrayed me! Argh! Why don't you go and kill zombies in the cave for me?"

[kenn9530]

I am max level and there is not plenty of PvE content.
This is what I hate the most in the hyped gaming communities. Why are you all saying stuff that is simply not correct because you have to defend something of a product you have not played yet? Become 60 and you will see, this game has almost nothing at max level right now.

Dumb posts like this make me angry all the time, why does it have to happen at every stupid game overhyped by people that have barely played it at all?

The two dungeons are terrible and kinda small. The POIs are really bad world events. The best you can get comes from crafting. And the Elite Areas? You say grind more of the same stuff for 100 hours. This is literally the dumbest thing you can say about content in a game. Holy crap. I bet even some tryhards like gonna quit stuff like that after half an hour.
Complete dogshit, I'm sorry, it's always too stupid in video games in forums like these. There are haters that talk shit, and there are the fanboys talking even more shit. Guys that really have played it, nobody cares.

There is plenty to do, the game is heavily focused on crafting gear and doing PvP events, if you are not doing those also thats half the game you are ignoring. PvE content is something that increases overtime, even WoW barely releases any new content each expansion and i only take into account what there is to do in the games current content. I have played the game over 100 hours so i know what there is to do in the game.

The game could of had 10 expeditions at launch and still players like yourself would complain about no endgame, if you want dungeons and raids then currently NW is not the game for you, thats what WoW is for. Hardcore players burn through a games content within a month at most regardless of how much there is.

[Fencers]

How are the quests in the game? Fun? Storywise/Lore heavy? Is there a main threat (LK equivalent?)

Generic as possible.

I haven't read a single piece of text, watched a cutscene or listened to dialogue related to story.

[vizzle]

How to passively talk down to people because their opinions differ?

Nothing passive about it; my disdain should be clear.

[Ealyssa]

How to passively talk down to people because their opinions differ?

He's right tho. Way too many people expect MMO's to fill their life. And that's sad.

Not defending anything about NW quality, game is bad and will be dead in a few months.

[Thelyron]

Nothing passive about it; my disdain should be clear.

Incalculably Based

[Osmeric]

The pure PvP MMO market is not big enough to satisfy the expectations from a AAA MMO.

This indie PvP MMO is looking intriguing to me. Battlegrounds are the entire game.

https://massivelyop.com/2021/09/27/s...out-the-grind/

[PACOX]

He's right tho. Way too many people expect MMO's to fill their life. And that's sad.

Not defending anything about NW quality, game is bad and will be dead in a few months.

Thats not what was said though. Theres a difference between expecting something to fill your life vs something filling your free time.

The post wqs criticizing someome who expecys the game ti be a good use of their free time. It then goes to say its fine to look to any othet game but this one for infinite content (which no one was arguing). Whicj leads me to believe problem was that people dared criticize the game, and not how thry choose to spend their time.

[Osmeric]

Yeah, if only we had a game that just let you jump into "battlegrounds" style matches at any time without grinding or leveling or anything.

Perhaps the matches could be...say...5v5 or something by default. You could even get gear and items and progress within each match! There might even be skins to acquire and player levels that you could progress with over time.

Not sure if such a thing would catch on.

I think the point here is being larger than 5x5, which as you note has been done.

[GreenJesus]

New World

Auto attacks

https://youtu.be/IUHt0cnOnKY?t=115

Magic

Fire Ball: https://youtu.be/uvYKcuqtRkA?t=454

Do you see where the Fireball comes from? That entire staff and spell animation is just bad.

Fire Field: https://youtu.be/uvYKcuqtRkA?t=191

"Healing": https://youtu.be/iy9pwdsexQI?t=585

Look at those healing animations. They look worse than the ones in WoW. They look like Asian F2P grinder animations.

All weapon animations: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKHB...nel=Liltenhead

You basically can just watch that entire video and see how bad the animations are in reality. But I guess they look fine for you?

PvP footage of combat: https://youtu.be/t9UPArR2j6c?t=49

Maybe some PvP for you? There you can experience in real time how bad the animations are and how bad the sound effects are on top of that.

And just for a comparison of an Alpha game vs. a game that will launch in two days:

Ashes of Creation

Auto attacks

https://youtu.be/U3WrvtnSMiM?t=1790

Magic

Fire Field: https://youtu.be/S_7Od_OdXnU?t=240

And you're telling me Ashes of Creation looks worse than New World? Ashes of Creation magic effects from pre-Alpha look better than the latest beta (aka release) footage of New World. Don't get me wrong, AoC still looks rough, but it's ALPHA. New World is going to launch in 2 days.

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Black Desert is 100% player made end game because there are incentives to do that. Something New World is lacking. And that's my point.

Even if New World is a B2P game, it still competes with sub-model MMORPGs. If not, then just make it compete with ESO or GW2, in both cases it's losing in almost every aspect, just due to the amount of content both games have to offer in comparison.

As a B2P game you have to generate revenue one way or another - and New World doesn't have that model implemented yet, which I tried to explain. As a B2P game you need something to generate cash, e.g. your shop. Then you can decide between being P2W or not. ESO has a heavily monetized shop (which relies on lootboxes, but is not P2W), GW2 has a very fair cash shop overall - and both offer you stuff you want / think you need (mounts, good looking skins, houses etc.) - New World is lacking that. Mounts are not in game and skins are pointless because you look not good anyway. So, how are they going to support the game in the future? Good question.

Because New World is literally just a test for Amazon. They want to test the engine and how they can scale up servers. They don't care if the game is successful. They got their development cost back on the first day. The real goal is just the experience for developing future games.

This game is also basically an advertisement for other developers to buy the right to use their Lumberyard engine or partner with Amazon. "Hey look everyone! We have a new engine and we are also in the market of making games!"

[Al Gorefiend]

wow this was fairly disappointing so far. all the settlements looking the same, zones dont really differ much at all. lots of visual fatigue on day one.

i dont get it. is this not supposed to be an adventure mmo? questing or adventuring doesnt feel fun at all.

[kaminaris]

Because New World is literally just a test for Amazon. They want to test the engine and how they can scale up servers. They don't care if the game is successful. They got their development cost back on the first day. The real goal is just the experience for developing future games.

This game is also basically an advertisement for other developers to buy the right to use their Lumberyard engine or partner with Amazon. "Hey look everyone! We have a new engine and we are also in the market of making games!"

Honestly? That engine doesn't do a single thing better that UE or Unity. Why would someone buy rights to use that? Unless its like 10x cheaper.

[SinR]

I still think Star Wars Galaxies was one of the best MMOs for its time. it wasn't without its flaws, but the customization was incredible.

Its unfortunate they butchered it with CU/NGE. I'd still love to see a decent MMO based around their system.

That said, NW is starting to look more and more like a pass for me.