Gaming House Modem/Router

[Skyraz]

Hey,
Long story short, I need to know what the best Modem/Router would be for a Gaming House.

We are a professional league of legends team in Australia and need to make sure the router is capable of handling 6-7 people streaming at a single time. I know most of this comes down to Bandwidth (40Mb/s Down / 30Mb/s Upload).

Does anyone have a suggestion of the type of router we should be looking to buy.
-Need's at least 5 ethernet slots.
-Good wifi range (two story house)
-Preferably QoS settings so I can limit the amount of usage each computer gets.

Thanks!

[Fascinate]

Since you are a "pro" team i assume you are going to wire the computers up and use wifi just for phones/tv/tablets etc? Anyway not a ton of routers with 5 or more ethernet ports, this is nearly 300 bucks but i think its worth it for your situation:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016EWKQAQ...SIN=B016EWKQAQ

[KOMO1211]

Since you are a "pro" team i assume you are going to wire the computers up and use wifi just for phones/tv/tablets etc? Anyway not a ton of routers with 5 or more ethernet ports, this is nearly 300 bucks but i think its worth it for your situation:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016EWKQAQ...SIN=B016EWKQAQ

you don't want a router you want a switch, assuming you already have a router/modem (usually come in one unit here in the US) something akin to this:
https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Gigab...thernet+switch
.
just need to make sure its one that auto configures as it doesn't seem you have much experience setting up interfaces and that it provides enough speed per port.

[Skyraz]

Haha I am not sure why you put the word pro in quotes, but you are correct. Wifi is just for phones/tablets/tv and everything will be wired. That's why we need the 5 slots.

Not worried about cost as long as it does the job.

Thanks for your help

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you don't want a router you want a switch, assuming you already have a router/modem (usually come in one unit here in the US) something akin to this:
https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Gigab...thernet+switch
.
just need to make sure its one that auto configures as it doesn't seem you have much experience setting up interfaces and that it provides enough speed per port.

We will need a router/modem as well. The one that comes with the ISP does not even support wifi haha.
Yep! No experience at all, we were just going to get someone in to take care of it but figured we would try here first. You guys have been very helpful in the past.

Thanks!

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Haha I am not sure why you put the word pro in quotes, but you are correct. Wifi is just for phones/tablets/tv and everything will be wired. That's why we need the 5 slots.

You would be baffled about how much of the playerbase considers themself pro in gaming.

We will need a router/modem as well. The one that comes with the ISP does not even support wifi haha.
Yep! No experience at all, we were just going to get someone in to take care of it but figured we would try here first. You guys have been very helpful in the past.

Thanks!

I have rather limited knowledge about this kind of things, but:
- routers and modems are usually supplied by the ISP provider via contract; i don't know if it's even possible to use an aftermarket router/modem.
These carry a lot more of settings and what-not. (Depends mainly on what the ISP defined and supports)

- switches; these are there to share your internet trough the household. They usually don't include a lot of settings/firewalls or such and are there mainly to share the bandwith between users; thereby solving both the "slot" and "wifi" issues you are having.

[KOMO1211]

[QUOTE=Skyraz;43742316]Haha I am not sure why you put the word pro in quotes, but you are correct. Wifi is just for phones/tablets/tv and everything will be wired. That's why we need the 5 slots.

Not worried about cost as long as it does the job.

Thanks for your help

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the ISP provided modem/router is fine assuming it puts out the speed you pay for with out looking at it directly ill assume it has a port on it that will connect to the switch. the switch will then put out the signal to everything else (wired) to which you can wire a wireless access point. so you would need something with like 10 ports on it if you want to have 8 wired ports plus the wireless you end up with something akin to this:


only difference is they have a router instead of a switch. they are the same thing for most purposes (a router being layer 3 and a switch being layer 2 though most new switches are 'smart' switches and work at the 3rd layer)

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- routers and modems are usually supplied by the ISP provider via contract; i don't know if it's even possible to use an aftermarket router/modem.
These carry a lot more of settings and what-not. (Depends mainly on what the ISP defined and supports)

- switches; these are there to share your internet trough the household. They usually don't include a lot of settings/firewalls or such and are there mainly to share the bandwith between users; thereby solving both the "slot" and "wifi" issues you are having.

back in the day when you just had a phone cord coming off of a filter you could use whatever modem/router you wanted, now, witch Comcast/xfinity at least you more or less have to use their modem/router combo at the "dmarc"

the only real difference between the two is a router has more robust options and settings. switches are actually faster because they don't have to think (home application you don't really need it to)

[Fascinate]

you don't want a router you want a switch, assuming you already have a router/modem (usually come in one unit here in the US) something akin to this:
https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Gigab...thernet+switch
.
just need to make sure its one that auto configures as it doesn't seem you have much experience setting up interfaces and that it provides enough speed per port.

Eh bro, the rotuers have switches built in. As he said they still need wifi for phones and such, being a pro team spending a nice chunk on a high end router is a good purchase especially if its a decent sized house.

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Eh bro, the rotuers have switches built in. As he said they still need wifi for phones and such, being a pro team spending a nice chunk on a high end router is a good purchase especially if its a decent sized house.

Most standard routers only have 4 wired ports so they might very well need a switch as well.

http://www.pcgamer.com/best-gaming-router/ This might help you as it's a very recent review of gaming routers. Can't help you pick which as shockingly the one provided by my ISP isn't actually bad.


Edit:

After a small read i like the Asus one but i am currently a bit of an Asus fanboy given my mobo,gpu and monitor.

[Fascinate]

Most standard routers only have 4 wired ports so they might very well need a switch as well.

http://www.pcgamer.com/best-gaming-router/ This might help you as it's a very recent review of gaming routers. Can't help you pick which as shockingly the one provided by my ISP isn't actually bad.

Please keep up with the thread, the router i linked has 8 ports. Honestly every single post after my initial one is just dirtying everything up, no one has a clue what they are talking about lol.

OP: Buy the router i linked, now we just need to know if you need a modem or not. 99% of the time these are supplied by your ISP and will do a better job of anything aftermarket you can find.

[KOMO1211]

Please keep up with the thread, the router i linked has 8 ports. Honestly every single post after my initial one is just dirtying everything up, no one has a clue what they are talking about lol.

lol you can spend less on a good switch and wireless access point then buying a fancy router. you can spend about 200 or so on a 8 port router or about 75-100 on a 16 port switch and wireless access point and have the same thing plus expansion. you don't need a router because you don't need the robust configurations for a simple wired network.

[Skyraz]

Here is our team for reference: https://www.facebook.com/AbyssESC/

The router/modem we currently have does not support wifi. We do have access to this one however: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Telstra-G...25.m3641.l6368 (we just got offered it then from someone messaging me on mmo champion)
The main issue is the one and only Ethernet port in the house is on the second story (first story I think for Americans). So we have to run an ethernet cord from second story downstairs to the main computer room.

From the suggestions, it sounds like my best option is just to buy a cheap switch with auto-configuration and be done with it? I don't mind spending the money on http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ASUS-RT-A...8AAOSwKOJYF9sN as suggested above but only if it will be useful and required.

Thanks again guys

[Deleted]

Please keep up with the thread, the router i linked has 8 ports. Honestly every single post after my initial one is just dirtying everything up, no one has a clue what they are talking about lol.

OP: Buy the router i linked, now we just need to know if you need a modem or not.

Oh i'm sorry Lord of routers no need to sound like a pretentious prick now is there. You linked one router and said buy this, i gave the OP a link to something more than just personal opinion. Also the OP said money isn't an issue and you linked the older model of one of the ones on my link. So please stop dirtying things up for people, K?

[Fascinate]

lol you can spend less on a good switch and wireless access point then buying a fancy router. you can spend about 200 or so on a 8 port router or about 75-100 on a 16 port switch and wireless access point and have the same thing plus expansion. you don't need a router because you don't need the robust configurations for a simple wired network.

No cheap WAP is going to provide the coverage of a high end router like i linked. Listen i usually dont suggest such high end networking hardware but being a pro team surely they have the budget for such things.

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Here is our team for reference: https://www.facebook.com/AbyssESC/

The router/modem we currently have does not support wifi. We do have access to this one however: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Telstra-G...25.m3641.l6368 (we just got offered it then from someone messaging me on mmo champion)
The main issue is the one and only Ethernet port in the house is on the second story (first story I think for Americans). So we have to run an ethernet cord from second story downstairs to the main computer room.

From the suggestions, it sounds like my best option is just to buy a cheap switch with auto-configuration and be done with it? I don't mind spending the money on http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ASUS-RT-A...8AAOSwKOJYF9sN as suggested above but only if it will be useful and required.

Thanks again guys

It honestly depends how big the house is, i personally wouldnt skimp on networking even if the main PC's are wired. The one you linked is a good price for australia, only a few bucks more than the 3100 model.

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Oh i'm sorry Lord of routers no need to sound like a pretentious prick now is there. You linked one router and said buy this, i gave the OP a link to something more than just personal opinion. Also the OP said money isn't an issue and you linked the older model of one of the ones on my link. So please stop dirtying things up for people, K?

I do apologize, its just that so many threads get so cluttered around here with so many opinions its hard for the OP to decipher what is good information and what isnt. I was just trying to let the OP know the original router i linked was as good as an option as he will find, but i did it in a poor way.

[KOMO1211]

No cheap WAP is going to provide the coverage of a high end router like i linked. Listen i usually dont suggest such high end networking hardware but being a pro team surely they have the budget for such things.

don't get me wrong that's a great router. I just don't like spending money on something im not going to use the most of. and your right a cheap wap isn't worth getting but you can still get a business class WAP and a 16 port switch cheaper then the router and is a more flexible design. in the end either solution works.

[Zeta333]

Haha I am not sure why you put the word pro in quotes, but you are correct. Wifi is just for phones/tablets/tv and everything will be wired. That's why we need the 5 slots.

Not worried about cost as long as it does the job.

Thanks for your help

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We will need a router/modem as well. The one that comes with the ISP does not even support wifi haha.
Yep! No experience at all, we were just going to get someone in to take care of it but figured we would try here first. You guys have been very helpful in the past.

Thanks!

NEVER EVER get a wireless modem/router from isp. Always demand a wired modem and hook your own router up to it. ISP supplied routers are fucking dogshit.

I as well support the above highend asus router

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016EWKQAQ...SIN=B016EWKQAQ

[Skyraz]

NEVER EVER get a wireless modem/router from isp. Always demand a wired modem and hook your own router up to it. ISP supplied routers are fucking dogshit.

I as well support the above highend asus router

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016EWKQAQ...SIN=B016EWKQAQ

Australia internet and ISPs are damn right bad in general. Good luck demanding anything. But I am aware how bad it is.

So my main options are Wired Modem hooked up to Asus router
OR
Wired Modem/Router with wifi, then hooked up to switch

[Fascinate]

Australia internet and ISPs are damn right bad in general. Good luck demanding anything. But I am aware how bad it is.

So my main options are Wired Modem hooked up to Asus router
OR
Wired Modem/Router with wifi, then hooked up to switch

I just dont see the point in the second option unless you were looking to save money. A high end router like i linked has a 8 port switch built into it, and the wifi will be way way better. I used to have a cheap router and i could barely get signal in my garage, i got a fairly high end one now and i can get a signal at the gas station a block away.

[Skyraz]

I just dont see the point in the second option unless you were looking to save money. A high end router like i linked has a 8 port switch built into it, and the wifi will be way way better. I used to have a cheap router and i could barely get signal in my garage, i got a fairly high end one now and i can get a signal at the gas station a block away.

Alright good point. I will just do that then.

The real question is, does this: https://www.pccasegear.com/products/...ireless-router justify the extra $70 over https://www.pccasegear.com/products/...igabit-router?

Thanks everyone for the help

[Fascinate]

Alright good point. I will just do that then.

The real question is, does this: https://www.pccasegear.com/products/...ireless-router justify the extra $70 over https://www.pccasegear.com/products/...igabit-router?

Thanks everyone for the help

I just realized the higher end one only has 4 ethernet ports, so thats a no go! The original one i linked is still the best option it seems.

[Skyraz]

I just realized the higher end one only has 4 ethernet ports, so thats a no go! The original one i linked is still the best option it seems.

Whoa, good catch. Okay perfect then! I shall order it tomorrow night. Thanks for your help