Justin Trudeau explains why he isn't giving in to fear and divisiveness

[Noogai131]

By thinking?

Killing people tends to anger their relatives and hands the groups a great recruiting slogan "They killed your mother/wife/brother/father/son/daughter/etc. Come join us and get revenge!".

By definition, if you kill your enemies, you win.

If you want to avoid a war/fight with everything, that's fine, but eventually you're going to have to start swinging, and you'll make enemies doing so.

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No, it isnt. alt-right and facism are literally the same

No, they are not.

, which is the right spectrum,

fascism can easily be left of center as well as right of center.

while center right is not even remotely the same as right.
while center right is not even remotely the same as right.

This is self evidently dumb.

You put conservatives into the same category as national liberalism, which is completely different.

National liberalism isn't a thing?

Conservatives arent isolationist, while nationalist liberals are.

Conservatives can very well be Isolationist.

We already talked about that left is completely different from center left.

X is a completely different number to X+1.

There is a difference between communism and social democracy.

One of scale among others.

As like there is a difference between conservative and national liberalism.

Depending on how you define national liberalism those two can be identical.

And an even bigger difference between alt-right (=fascism) and center right.

Fascism is center right - (or center left) They are pretty centrist in the right/left scale.
A fascist scores high on populism and authoritarianism, not high on politics.
Its generally hard to have a popular mass movement when you argue for fringe politics.

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By definition, if you kill your enemies, you win.

If you want to avoid a war/fight with everything, that's fine, but eventually you're going to have to start swinging, and you'll make enemies doing so.

The point Trudeau tries to make (badly) is that if you kill all the terrorists, and then those people who turned terrorist because you killed those terrorists, eventually you have staged a genocide.

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Center left is very different from left. Or do you think social democrats are communists?

You compare apples with oranges here.

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They at least dont build fences and walls at their border.

No, that'd be more like comparing a red delicious apple to a golden delicious apple.

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No, it isnt. alt-right and facism are literally the same, which is the right spectrum, while center right is not even remotely the same as right. You put conservatives into the same category as national liberalism, which is completely different. Conservatives arent isolationist, while nationalist liberals are.

Your thoughts and word usage here are, as always, laughable and incorrect.

[Kalis]

No, it isnt. alt-right and facism are literally the same, which is the right spectrum, while center right is not even remotely the same as right. You put conservatives into the same category as national liberalism, which is completely different. Conservatives arent isolationist, while nationalist liberals are.

The right covers a broad range of ideologies, including conservatives and alt-right.

We already talked about that left is completely different from center left. There is a difference between communism and social democracy.

The left covers a broad range of ideologies, including social democrats and communists.

As like there is a difference between conservative and national liberalism. And an even bigger difference between alt-right (=fascism) and center right.

There are differences just within UK Conservatives as I mentioned above, where I am a One Nation Tory and some other Tories are Thatcherites. Every group has factions within them that hold differing views, the right have lots of groups, with lots of factions and lots of differing views, and the same is true of the left.

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Didnt Trudeua just get busted for selling out his country to Chinese banks?
Yet the "progressives" still consider him a good guy?