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    Quote Originally Posted by rym View Post
    First, the UN has no sovereign authority.

    Second, the Universal Deceleration is hardly Universal as it was drafted by the victorious powers after a gruesome war.

    Finally, there actually is no RIGHT to migrate wherever on chooses. There is a right to ask perhaps. But again, a right granted by a powerless body that nobody listens to.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    i think I have my posse filled out now. Mars is Theo, Jupiter is Vanyali, Linadra is Venus, and Heather is Mercury. Dragon can be Pluto.
    On MMO-C we learn that Anti-Fascism is locking arms with corporations, the State Department and agreeing with the CIA, But opposing the CIA and corporate America, and thinking Jews have a right to buy land and can expect tenants to pay rent THAT is ultra-Fash Nazism. Bellingcat is an MI6/CIA cut out. Clyburn Truther.

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    I might be wrong but I don't remember jews driving trucks into Christmas markets, blowup airports, shooting up gay night clubs...

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    So? That does not make article 14 have anything to do with immigration.
    Sure it does, as the reason for immigration is seeking asylum.

    You made a general statement, i disproved it. Learn to discuss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rym View Post
    Part of the immigrants in europe actually seek asylum. As they are war casualties.

    Not all immigrations are covered, but the asylum based immigrations actually are.
    Being a refugee is not Immigration. Immigration is resettlement somewhere else, a refugee stays only temporarily.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    i think I have my posse filled out now. Mars is Theo, Jupiter is Vanyali, Linadra is Venus, and Heather is Mercury. Dragon can be Pluto.
    On MMO-C we learn that Anti-Fascism is locking arms with corporations, the State Department and agreeing with the CIA, But opposing the CIA and corporate America, and thinking Jews have a right to buy land and can expect tenants to pay rent THAT is ultra-Fash Nazism. Bellingcat is an MI6/CIA cut out. Clyburn Truther.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rym View Post
    Sure it does, as the reason for immigration is seeking asylum.

    You made a general statement, i disproved it. Learn to discuss.
    No, they are not immigrating if they're refugees. They are there temporary.

    immigrate
    ˈɪmɪɡreɪt/
    verbNORTH AMERICAN
    gerund or present participle: immigrating
    come to live permanently in a foreign country.

    immigrant
    ˈɪmɪɡr(ə)nt/
    noun
    a person who comes to live permanently in a foreign country.

    Learn what words actually mean before you get into some stupid arguments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    That sounds like hyperbole. The people affected most by immigration are anti-immigration, no surprise there. They aren't Nazis or bigots.
    Fun fact the people most affected by immigration voted remain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    First, the UN has no sovereign authority.
    Actually, all UN countries signed the declaration, which is commital.

    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    Second, the Universal Deceleration is hardly Universal as it was drafted by the victorious powers after a gruesome war.
    It actually is universal, no matter if it fits to your actual philosophy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    Being a refugee is not Immigration. Immigration is resettlement somewhere else, a refugee stays only temporarily.
    Right, refugees are only staying "temporarily"..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Fun View Post
    Human rights doesn't make it a right to immigrate to another country.
    That should be up for debate though

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    Quote Originally Posted by rym View Post
    Actually, all UN countries signed the declaration, which is commital.
    Hahaha, do you seriously believe this somehow means it's enforced?

    Quote Originally Posted by rym View Post
    It actually is universal, no matter if it fits to your actual philosophy.
    No, it's not universal. There are plenty of countries who disagree with it.

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    He's incredibly out of touch. He literally lives an exceptionally privileged lifestyle that allows him to avoid any and all negative consequences of both poorly handled immigration and the disaster that is the recent migrant crisis. I really wish people would stop making it seem like almost everybody against certain kinds of immigration is some sort of rabid supporter of Hitler's cause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tikcol View Post
    That should be up to debate though
    No, why should it? It should be up to every country to decide the criterias for immigrating there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rym View Post
    Actually, all UN countries signed the declaration, which is commital.

    It actually is universal, no matter if it fits to your actual philosophy.
    Almost no UN countries follow it, and there is no means of enforcing it.

    It is not universal anymore than say the NAZI party was "Socialist."

    Its hardly universal and nobody follows it. Its bunk.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    i think I have my posse filled out now. Mars is Theo, Jupiter is Vanyali, Linadra is Venus, and Heather is Mercury. Dragon can be Pluto.
    On MMO-C we learn that Anti-Fascism is locking arms with corporations, the State Department and agreeing with the CIA, But opposing the CIA and corporate America, and thinking Jews have a right to buy land and can expect tenants to pay rent THAT is ultra-Fash Nazism. Bellingcat is an MI6/CIA cut out. Clyburn Truther.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Fun View Post
    No, it's not universal. There are plenty of countries who disagree with it.
    Nowadays. At a early day, they signed it.

    If fascists want to get rid of human rights, they need to make a world wide revolution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Friendly Kitty Cat View Post
    Right, refugees are only staying "temporarily"..........
    In geological time yes. :3
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    i think I have my posse filled out now. Mars is Theo, Jupiter is Vanyali, Linadra is Venus, and Heather is Mercury. Dragon can be Pluto.
    On MMO-C we learn that Anti-Fascism is locking arms with corporations, the State Department and agreeing with the CIA, But opposing the CIA and corporate America, and thinking Jews have a right to buy land and can expect tenants to pay rent THAT is ultra-Fash Nazism. Bellingcat is an MI6/CIA cut out. Clyburn Truther.

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    Trying to keep the refugee rape-machines out of your country is not extreme.
    Those immigrants that are flooding in will leave a far worse stain than any Nazi ever did. Third-world shitbirds fuck up everything they touch, that's just how they are.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Fun View Post
    No, why should it? It should be up to every country to decide the criterias for immigrating there.
    Maybe the concept of country is becoming archaic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    Almost no UN countries follow it, and there is no means of enforcing it.
    Dont they? Or just some few who want to install dictatorships that abandon humanity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    Its hardly universal and nobody follows it. Its bunk.
    A lot of countries follow and live it. If you dont believe in human rights just doesnt matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rym View Post
    Nowadays. At a early day, they signed it.

    If fascists want to get rid of human rights, they need to make a world wide revolution.
    I'll clue you in: If a country violates it, there's nobody that's enforcing it. If you want to enforce it, you feel free to start wars over such disagreements. Japan is violating article 14 and so is South Korea. Go to war with them and start making them abide by it.

    No? Then it's useless if you can't enforce it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tikcol View Post
    Maybe the concept of country is becoming archaic
    No, it's really not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rym View Post
    The UN.

    http://www.un.org/en/universal-decla...-human-rights/

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    Asylum is part of the human rights:

    Article 14.

    (1) Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution.
    (2) This right may not be invoked in the case of prosecutions genuinely arising from non-political crimes or from acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.
    Notice that it says seek but it says nothing about whether it has to be granted. They have the right to look for asylum they don't have the right to be granted asylum.

    Not that it matters the UN has no power whatsoever to enforce its rules on any nation.

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