Its almost like taste is subjective and people should just mind there own business.
Its almost like taste is subjective and people should just mind there own business.
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I never eat something under medium/well. I have tried it and I don't like it. I don't care what others think.
Poultry -- Chicken and turkey must be done (at least 160F on my thermometer). Others like duck and some game birds can be more like 140F.
Pork -- USDA recently changed their recommendation to 145F from 160F. I prefer mine more like 140F. There will be pink.
Beef -- Very dependent on the cut. Good cuts (ribeye, mignon, etc.) are best, imo, at 125-130F. Other cuts (flank, skirt, hangar, etc.) can be more done. Even more cuts shouid only be used for stewing or braising.
Fish -- Depends on the fish, as with beef. Quality tuna can be anywhere from raw to well. Same with salmon. White fish should be medium-well. Whatever.
If you order my ribeye well done, I will first give the ticket "the look", then I will angrily put the ticket on my board, then I will make a welldone ribeye, then I will cry a little when I plate it and put on the window.
Yes, I might be a snob, but I always have to remember I'm cooking for the customer, not for me.
Last edited by belfpala; 2017-01-01 at 12:21 PM.
Most of this stuff is just tongue-in-cheek. The people running a restaurant might not be very thrilled if you ask for a steak prepared in a way that they feel is wasteful, but for everyone else, it doesn't really matter what they think. If you like a well-done steak. Order/cook a well-done steak.
If they act that way, they are just proving to be snobby condescending people.
Look down at them as if you are too, and they will shut up.
What's the word I'm looking for.. Oh, right.
It's hyperbole. I don't care how you have your meat, I just think it's stupid and a waste of a steak. I won't cook you a steak "well-done" (more like well-burnt hyuck hyuck) but you're more than welcome to to cook it that way yourself.
Couldn't possibly be because they like the taste of the sauce.
The texture of underdone beef is very unpleasant to me, which is why well done is preferable. As far as I'm concerned the steak nazis can go and die in a fire with the people who refuse to cook with wine they wouldn't drink.
I just feel it's a waste. Well done tastes like any other cheap meat to me, defeats the purpose of getting a good steak to begin with.
Yeah, taste is mostly subjective, but there is an objective component here -- the more you cook the beef, the fewer of its unique characteristics remain compared to beef of any quality. At a certain temperature and duration of cooking, the top of menu steak at Ruth's Chris will trend toward being indistinguishable from one from Waffle House. And I like Waffle House as well as the next guy, but your $7.50 cut of meat costs different than your $45 cut for reasons... that won't mean anything (or nearly as much) once it's well done.
There's no hate. Your taste is exposed to criticism, get over it.
Common aversions. For example, my girlfriend doesn't like "squishy" things like mushrooms. So I made a bomber sauteed mushroom dish for her and she ate the whole thing. Turns out she'd never had anything but canned mushrooms. Even I would say icky to that, (recipe simple, sautee shrooms in peanut oil, add sake and cook off, add sesame oil, add soy sauce at the end, finish with some toasted sesame seeds and togarashi spice)
Similar with my grandfather. He hated brussels sprouts... until he tried mine. Again, recipe simple, roast sprouts with some oil, salt and pepper until mostly done. Then sautee with bacon fat some onions, add sprouts, add garlic, add white wine and cook off, add heavy cream and reduce, add lemon juice, plate with crumbled bacom as garnish.
And with me. I always hated beets. Then i got over the "icky!" phase, now I love them. Simple salad -- roasted beets, arugala, goat cheese (or feta if preferred), citrus vin, orange supremes, and spiced nuts (such as walnuts, pecans, peanuts, whatever.).
i like medium well, but i dont criticize a man for a torched steak. to each their own
No sense crying over spilt beer, unless you're drunk...
A girl I dated cooked me a steak once. I thought, wow, what a keeper. She then said she cooked it well done because she believes that's the best way to prepare a steak (rib eye).
I spat it in her face, and gave her a right hook to the chin.
If you're going to a kill a cow, at least fucking cook it right.
Probably because most people are dumb and can't get out of binary reasoning, so they can't manage to understand there is degree between "more cooked than rare" and "burnt".
Funny thing, the main claim is that the nuances of the taste are ruined when cooked beyond rare/blue/whatever their snobbishness consider the best cooking, and that everything above "taste the same". My own experience with my own taste buds is the opposite : if a meat is not cooked enough, it just has the samey raw taste regardless of its quality, while decently cooked (not charred, obviously) meat has a much more flavorous and nuanced taste, allowing to feel a big difference between qualities.
It's as if different people have different perceptions
My own experience is the exact opposite, as written above.
Last edited by Akka; 2017-01-01 at 01:01 PM.