Trump will ask Congress, not Mexico, to pay for border wall

[Paranoid Android]

Sources: Trump will ask Congress, not Mexico, to pay for border wall

President-elect Donald Trump's transition team has signaled to congressional Republican leaders that the President-elect's preference is to fund the border wall through the appropriations process as soon as April, according to House Republican officials.

Well another promise down.

[Wells]

Still amazed anyone bought that one.

[Paranoid Android]

This will be something to watch. The conservatives who hate to spend any money (except military) and any Democrat who will oppose these appropriations on principal.

[Jonnusthegreat]

This will be something to watch. The conservatives who hate to spend any money (except military) and any Democrat who will oppose these appropriations on principal.

They love to spend money when it furthers their agenda. Plenty of examples.

[Paranoid Android]

Cool. Now I can email my representative and demand we not engage in big government wasteful spending.

Remember Donald loves building shit. Funny thing is he is very New York City centric (remember conservatives hate NY). He wants to rebuild Kennedy Int. airport, Grand Central, etc. Those GOP's will not give him a red cent and I cannot wait until he has his tantrums.

[Independent voter]

We already have a border fence, though it's only where border towns are for the most part.

[Belize]

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We already have a border fence, though it's only where border towns are for the most part.

Let's be fair, that's a puny fence.

Anything smaller than the Walls of Constantinople is clearly unacceptable.

[mage21]

I fully expected him to walk back most of his more bombastic campaign trail claims. That's kinda how these things work. I can think of many things Obama promised that never came to fruition, and I don't really fault him for that. Nor will I fault Trump. In fact, I'd be shocked if Trump actually tried to push through half of his more outrageous promises.

The important thing for me right now, and my biggest wish, is that the gravity of the office weighs on Mr. Trump and he kinda cuts the crap a little bit and starts being more measured in the actions he takes.

[Wells]

I fully expected him to walk back most of his more bombastic campaign trail claims. That's kinda how these things work. I can think of many things Obama promised that never came to fruition, and I don't really fault him for that. Nor will I fault Trump. In fact, I'd be shocked if Trump actually tried to push through half of his more outrageous promises.

Presidents historically keep most of their promises, and its exceptionally rare for them to renege on core campaign planks like this.

The important thing for me right now, and my biggest wish, is that the gravity of the office weighs on Mr. Trump and he kinda cuts the crap a little bit and starts being more measured in the actions he takes.

No one changes their personality at 70, let alone narcissists.

[Belize]

The important thing for me right now, and my biggest wish, is that the gravity of the office weighs on Mr. Trump and he kinda cuts the crap a little bit and starts being more measured in the actions he takes.

Wishful thinking at best, delusions at worst. People were claiming that once he'd be President-Elect, he'd become more Presidential and serious.

As it stands, he is still taking to Twitter to moan about SNL being big meany booboos towards him, like a goddamn kindergartner.

[Draco-Onis]

No one changes their personality at 70, let alone narcissists.

I am always amazed by the number of people who say that Trump will change and rise up to the presidency, once you reach a certain age it's near impossible to change. Trump will be the same way, there is no great change coming he will continue to be Trump regardless of what happens.

[belleflop]

I still laugh when on the 60 minute interview Taken from http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKBN1380MX


"Asked in an interview with CBS' "60 Minutes" whether he would accept a fence instead of a wall, Trump said "for certain areas I would," according to excerpts.

"But certain areas, a wall is more appropriate. I'm very good at this, it's called construction, there could be some fencing," Trump said."


Never mind no one has asked him how is is going to deal with the 75 mile stretch of boarder that is Native American land.

[Very Tired]

What ever happened to his plan to blackmail Mexico into paying by threatening to stop all the money people were sending back to their families over there?

[Alixie]

Instead of saving lives by letting people keep their health insurance with Obamacare, lets use OUR tax money on a fucking wall. Why cant Republicans be the party of fiscal responsibility instead of being comically and seriously evil?

My family is going to lose our health insurance over this bullshit.

[mage21]

Presidents historically keep most of their promises, and its exceptionally rare for them to renege on core campaign planks like this.

I suppose Trump still has a ways to go before the "most" qualifier is applicable to the amount of his promises that weren't kept. But this one, it would be ridiculous to expect him to keep it. Which makes it all the more questionable that he would even make it.

[belleflop]

I fully expected him to walk back most of his more bombastic campaign trail claims. That's kinda how these things work. I can think of many things Obama promised that never came to fruition, and I don't really fault him for that. Nor will I fault Trump. In fact, I'd be shocked if Trump actually tried to push through half of his more outrageous promises.

The important thing for me right now, and my biggest wish, is that the gravity of the office weighs on Mr. Trump and he kinda cuts the crap a little bit and starts being more measured in the actions he takes.

Could you say there was a difference in the rhetoric though? I agree with you that all politicians promise the world then don't deliver. But Obama wasn't screaming racist nationalism slogans from the hilltops. He wasn't using minorities as a prop to incite hate and anger among the closeted bigots. Trump was.

[Wells]

I suppose Trump still has a ways to go before the "most" qualifier is applicable to the amount of his promises that weren't kept. But this one, it would be ridiculous to expect him to keep it. Which makes it all the more questionable that he would even make it.

Of course it would be ridiculous to expect it to happen. That's a black mark in Trump's column. He campaigned extensively on a promise he knew he couldn't keep.

[mage21]

Could you say there was a difference in the rhetoric though? I agree with you that all politicians promise the world then don't deliver. But Obama wasn't screaming racist nationalism slogans from the hilltops. He wasn't using minorities as a prop to incite hate and anger among the closeted bigots. Trump was.

Well I'm not really making an argument for or against Trump's bombast, I'm simply analyzing the fact that campaign promises have never been set in stone, with any president. On that basis, and that basis alone, I can't fault Trump (yet) any more than I can fault previous presidents who went back on their promises.

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Of course it would be ridiculous to expect it to happen. That's a black mark in Trump's column. He campaigned extensively on a promise he knew he couldn't keep.

Absolutely.

But if we look at an Obama comparison, and although this wasn't on the presidential campaign trail but rather the Obamacare campaign trail, he said, "If you like your plan, you can keep it." I will never be convinced that Obama was so uninformed about his own healthcare reform that he didn't know this was an outright falsehood. He promised something he knew he couldn't deliver.

Again, I sort of expect this kind of thing from politicians when they really want to get things done/get elected/whatever else. Not that I like it, don't get me wrong.

[Bathory]

Mmmm, can't wait for my taxes to go up for this horseshit


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[belleflop]

Well I'm not really making an argument for or against Trump's bombast, I'm simply analyzing the fact that campaign promises have never been set in stone, with any president. On that basis, and that basis alone, I can't fault Trump (yet) any more than I can fault previous presidents who went back on their promises.

That's a fair statement.