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  1. #201
    Quote Originally Posted by Dhrizzle View Post
    I think he meant "terror" in the specific sense of terrorism, the Jihad in Dune is a mass cultural and religious uprising conquering all before it, more like the early jihads that expanded the Muslim Empire. "Crusade" probably fits the current understanding of those words better as the idea of religiously inspired conquering armies.
    Crusade came 5 centuries after jihad spread by the sword islam, after jihad had torpedoed the christian middle east, north africa, battle of tours in france, 1st n 2nd siege of Constantinople. Crusade came as a long over-due answer by a besieged religion that eventually fought back.

    Dune religion, just came out of nowhere, kinda like islam did n decided for world conquest...Not trying to start a religious debate, but Paul doesn't come to the defense of the galaxy, instead he wants to conquer it against its will.
    Now, later crusades, maybe, that's a different thing.

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    Most Americans dont even know what a Jihad is beyond a word used on fox news from time to time.

    I think its pretty obvious why they changed it to crusade.

    They are making a few changes so the complex world of Dune isnt so complex to a viewer so the film actually has a shot at making money otherwise it would just be another bladerunner 2049 financial flop because the average viewer would rather watch marvel superhero films than support a thought provoking sci fi epic.
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    It's probably denis just doesn't want the kind of attention from the crazies that charlie hebdo got, n just focus on the movie.

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    The cast is absolutely stacked with star power and Denis Villeneuve is probably my favorite director (seriously watch "Sicario" and "Incendies" if you haven't, really great films) so I'm optimistic about this. The trailer looked great as well

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    I'm a big fan of Villeneuve's films and this has a great cast, but I really wish the color grading wasn't so desaturated.

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  7. #207
    Quote Originally Posted by Pvt Hudson View Post
    This movie will not do well with most audiences, and I doubt most long-time fans will like it. The director himself doesn't enjoy working on it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathranis View Post
    I'm a big fan of Villeneuve's films and this has a great cast, but I really wish the color grading wasn't so desaturated.
    The only film I've liked of his is Blade Runner 2049 (that's how you do a proper sequel!), but Arrival was boring as Hell, and I don't know the rest of his stuff. I feel like he's going to be done with big franchises after this, if you can really call Dune a franchise. It's just a niche SyFy for only the nerdiest of fans.

  8. #208
    Quote Originally Posted by dontrelleroosevelt View Post
    This movie will not do well with most audiences, and I doubt most long-time fans will like it. The director himself doesn't enjoy working on it!
    Yeah nothing to do with covid and threaters not doing well. It's because the director wanted to waste 3 to 4 years of his life when he could have picked any project to work on.

    What a clueless post
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  9. #209
    Quote Originally Posted by RobertoCarlos View Post
    Yeah nothing to do with covid and threaters not doing well. It's because the director wanted to waste 3 to 4 years of his life when he could have picked any project to work on.

    What a clueless post
    I'm clueless? You know it's against the rules to troll others here, right? Did I say it didn't have anything to do with the foreign plague? No. Y

    He hasn't enjoyed working on it since the start. And neither did Lynch. It's a weird SyFy to adapt, that's all. Uptight people, I'll tell you what!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dontrelleroosevelt View Post
    I'm clueless? You know it's against the rules to troll others here, right? Did I say it didn't have anything to do with the foreign plague? No. Y

    He hasn't enjoyed working on it since the start. And neither did Lynch. It's a weird SyFy to adapt, that's all. Uptight people, I'll tell you what!
    You know. I actually agree it won't do well. But not because the director is sick of it. But because modern audiences don't go to thought provoking Sci fi films they go watch joss whedon and russo brothers superhero films with attractive actors in tight suits.

    If you could kindly link this proof of dennis hating the experience that would be great because everything I've seen it's business as usual and he's creating his vision best he can. And he loves dune so....
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  11. #211
    All signs indicate that this is a love letter from Denis Villeneuve. Where is this coming from that he 'hates working on it'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertoCarlos View Post
    You know. I actually agree it won't do well. But not because the director is sick of it. But because modern audiences don't go to thought provoking Sci fi films they go watch joss whedon and russo brothers superhero films with attractive actors in tight suits.

    If you could kindly link this proof of dennis hating the experience that would be great because everything I've seen it's business as usual and he's creating his vision best he can. And he loves dune so....
    It was months ago when I read it. I've got a damn good memory, but apparently the articles I read weren't important enough for me to bookmark, and I'm not looking through months of history to find it. Do some digging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dontrelleroosevelt View Post
    I'm clueless? You know it's against the rules to troll others here, right? Did I say it didn't have anything to do with the foreign plague? No. Y

    He hasn't enjoyed working on it since the start. And neither did Lynch. It's a weird SyFy to adapt, that's all. Uptight people, I'll tell you what!
    Are you sure you are not the one trolling here?

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    Not entirely unexpected, but still somewhat disappointing.

    Another year it is, then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dontrelleroosevelt View Post
    It was months ago when I read it. I've got a damn good memory, but apparently the articles I read weren't important enough for me to bookmark, and I'm not looking through months of history to find it. Do some digging.
    Yeah... nothing to be found. Your memory isn't as good as you think it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertoCarlos View Post
    You know. I actually agree it won't do well. But not because the director is sick of it. But because modern audiences don't go to thought provoking Sci fi films they go watch joss whedon and russo brothers superhero films with attractive actors in tight suits.

    If you could kindly link this proof of dennis hating the experience that would be great because everything I've seen it's business as usual and he's creating his vision best he can. And he loves dune so....
    It is too deep for a movie/set of movies. I think the whole story at least up to GEOD would be a great TV series where you could break it down and explain everything. The Prelog from the Lynch movie did a good fast and dirty here is the history that matters but it was still too much to take in if you hadn't read the book. The SyFy channels mini series was good about that with more explaining then just Lynch's eye candy.
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  17. #217
    Quote Originally Posted by Monteverdi View Post
    All signs indicate that this is a love letter from Denis Villeneuve. Where is this coming from that he 'hates working on it'?
    Especially from what little I know of the guy, he's a total film geek, like Tarantino level. Adapting Dune is probably a dream project of his; doesn't mean every day is perfect while doing that obviously, but I strongly doubt he hates the project at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pvt Hudson View Post
    Super bummed to see it pushed back.

    I'm wondering when the studio will finally cave and just go with a VoD release. I'd still see it in theaters even after watching in VoD.
    I remember watching Lynch's sand worms on the big screen. The spectacle of that shot alone was worth the price of admission.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post
    Super bummed to see it pushed back.

    I'm wondering when the studio will finally cave and just go with a VoD release. I'd still see it in theaters even after watching in VoD.
    I remember watching Lynch's sand worms on the big screen. The spectacle of that shot alone was worth the price of admission.
    Be careful what you wish for, AMC is on life-support and Regal Cinemas has already announced that they would close their US and UK locals for the foreseeable future. If those two go belly-up VoD will be the only way left.
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  20. #220
    Dune’s Baron Harkonnen Fully Revealed Via New Action Figure
    https://www.comingsoon.net/movies/ne...-action-figure



    Looks like darth vader ate too many ewok burgers in an alternate reality where he got depressed for many reasons that could have contributed to his obesity

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