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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Hiricine View Post
    I want Gorsuch to be confirmed as quickly as possible.
    Hear, hear.
    MAGA
    When all you do is WIN WIN WIN

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Taftvalue View Post
    Astounding hypocrisy.
    Welcome to politics? The vast majority of Politicians are hypocrites. Democrats, Republicans, liberals, conservatives, socialists, communists...

    There's little point moaning about it, as it's the people who vote for them.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    I would have never heard of this guy without the present administration and they do not strike me as fans of satire. On the other hand, several have been accused of being actual fascists. So when I hear they nominated a fascist I have more reason to take it at face value than to ascribe it to satire.
    Well the word "fascism" is a label that you've seem to run with without appreciating what it means, and if namecalling is increasingly becoming a substitute for arguments from the left these days.

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Akylios View Post
    Welcome to politics? The vast majority of Politicians are hypocrites. Democrats, Republicans, liberals, conservatives, socialists, communists...

    There's little point moaning about it, as it's the people who vote for them.
    No their was a time when you could give republicans the benefit of the doubt, hence why many nominees would get put into positions without to much trouble.

    However Republicans getting the benefit of the doubt right now is silly and as shown by this topic stupid because it will be used against you.

    Example: if democrats vote yes on Trumps nominees that are known to be not qualified since they can't block them anyway would it wouldn't be all to far fetch to see these fascist right-wingers attack Democrats for voting against them the moment these nominees screw up.

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by jimboa24 View Post
    John Kerry - I actually voted for funding the Iraq war, before I voted against it!
    TIL that Kerry is president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taftvalue View Post
    but but but but but DEMORATS ARE COMMUNIST LIBERAL SOCIALISTYSTSSTSTST
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    There is a problem, but I know just banning guns will fix the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taftvalue View Post
    Astounding hypocrisy.
    MMmmmmmm Gimme those Conservative tears.
    Eat yo vegetables

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiricine View Post
    Well the word "fascism" is a label that you've seem to run with without appreciating what it means, and if namecalling is increasingly becoming a substitute for arguments from the left these days.
    Versus the nuanced and in depth arguments regarding anglo-saxon superiority from the right?
    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    There is a problem, but I know just banning guns will fix the problem.

  9. #29
    I don't care who they nominate, good or bad, the dems need to block him/her.
    "When Facism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." - Unknown

  10. #30
    Republicans also supported Merrick Garland for the DC Circuit, yet refused to vote on him at all for the SCOTUS. That is also astounding hypocrisy.

    This game is fun.

  11. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrt View Post
    I think they should treat him as well as the Republicans treated Garland.
    You mean they shouldn't try and force a nominee on the American people during an election year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Republicans also supported Merrick Garland for the DC Circuit, yet refused to vote on him at all for the SCOTUS. That is also astounding hypocrisy.

    This game is fun.
    The difference is that Gorsuch will be confirmed. So fun.
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  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by ControlWarrior View Post
    You mean they shouldn't try and force a nominee on the American people during an election year?

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    The difference is that Gorsuch will be confirmed. So fun.
    It really doesn't bother me if Gorsuch is confirmed. The OP was whining about hypocrisy, and I was simply pointing out that his side did the exact same thing. His outrage should also be focused on those on his own side, and if not, then he's likely doubly hypocritical.

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by ControlWarrior View Post
    You mean they shouldn't try and force a nominee on the American people during an election year?
    “You know, I think there will be plenty of time for debate on that issue,” said Cruz, when he was asked whether a Republican-controlled Senate should hold votes on a President Hillary Clinton’s nominees. “There is certainly long historical precedent for a Supreme Court with fewer justices. I would note, just recently, that Justice Breyer observed that the vacancy is not impacting the ability of the court to do its job. That’s a debate that we are going to have.”

  14. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    “You know, I think there will be plenty of time for debate on that issue,” said Cruz, when he was asked whether a Republican-controlled Senate should hold votes on a President Hillary Clinton’s nominees. “There is certainly long historical precedent for a Supreme Court with fewer justices. I would note, just recently, that Justice Breyer observed that the vacancy is not impacting the ability of the court to do its job. That’s a debate that we are going to have.”
    Nothing that he said was untrue, so...
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  15. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by ControlWarrior View Post
    Nothing that he said was untrue, so...
    I am glad we agree it is just fine if democrats want to explore having fewer justices.

  16. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    I am glad we agree it is just fine if democrats want to explore having fewer justices.
    Yeah, they can believe in fairies and global warming too if they want.
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  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Taftvalue View Post
    He was confirmed by voice vote. While that may signify no overt resistance to his appointment, that can hardly be described as "backing" him.

    How about we all just try a little intellectual honesty from now on, yea?

  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by ControlWarrior View Post
    Yeah, they can believe in fairies and global warming too if they want.
    And you can believe in Pizzagate and creationism the point is that they can use the same reasoning as republicans who you agree with.

  19. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Daelak View Post
    Versus the nuanced and in depth arguments regarding anglo-saxon superiority from the right?
    Well I'd point out that your example at least would present an argument, which you don't. That and there aren't many major figures that try to make that point, and no one actually tries to debate them on it.

  20. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Deruyter View Post
    This is why these days I don't vote on any party or person.

    It's all a big circus.
    That's politics. That's always been politics. That we're much more exposed to the inner workings of it as a whole now, doesn't mean that this is new, or that this has fundamentally changed in the last 100, 200, or even 1,000 years.

    I'm more concerned about hypocrisy that's actually damaging, or bold-faced lying. Approving Gorsuch to a lower court, but not to SCOTUS isn't hypocrisy on the part of the Dems. Just like it's not hypocrisy of the Republicans to have done the same thing to Garland. The difference being, Gorsuch is getting a confirmation hearing, while Garland didn't since the GOP refused to even have one.

    What is hypocrisy, is Turtle McConnell stomping his feet and refusing to hold a confirmation hearing for Garland for almost a full year of Obama's last term - and 8 years of leading obstructionism efforts in Congress - is now condemning Democrats for doing the exact same thing.

    "Doesn't matter who this Republican president nominates," the Kentucky Republican said. "Doesn't matter who any Republican president nominates, really. The Left has been rolling out the same, tired playbook for decades."
    THAT is hypocrisy.
    "Lack of information on your part does not constitute bias on mine."


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