[Mythic+] guaranteed one chest with loot, instead of 3 chest with no loot?

[Wild]

We had the issue about people wanting to always 3 chest everything, instead of going for higher mythic+.
What if the loot system gave u ONE CHEST in each mythic+ done IN TIME, regardless of how fast the group went, its always one chest with a 100% loot in it, instead of 3 chests that may contain no loot.

This would get players back to play higher mythics, according to their ilevel. Wouldnt it?

[mmocfd1b0ab5a3]

Wouldn't change anything for me.. There is base ilvl cap so I wouldn't still run higher than +15. I would just get one +15 chest instead of 3??

[Felfaadaern Darkterror]

As MT in a large guild, I tank whatever keys the guild has, regardless of which dungeon or which +. The minute I log in, people start whispering me keys. If I want to do emissary WQs or some-such, I try to do them at odd hour when fewer people are on. Otherwise, I just line the keys up and get to as many as possible. No one is guaranteed a 3 chest, but most of us don't need AP anymore, and we all get our 15s by end of week.

[Deleted]

As MT in a large guild, I tank whatever keys the guild has, regardless of which dungeon or which +. The minute I log in, people start whispering me keys. If I want to do emissary WQs or some-such, I try to do them at odd hour when fewer people are on. Otherwise, I just line the keys up and get to as many as possible. No one is guaranteed a 3 chest, but most of us don't need AP anymore, and we all get our 15s by end of week.

Sadly for me our MTs are not that cool persons i wasted lv 9 CoS key this week just because i picked up Random tank ...(the dude left after some bad pull on trash and wipe )

[Felfaadaern Darkterror]

Sadly for me our MTs are not that cool persons i wasted lv 9 CoS key this week just because i picked up Random tank ...(the dude left after some bad pull on trash and wipe )

They keep me busy; that's for sure.

[Wild]

Wouldn't change anything for me.. There is base ilvl cap so I wouldn't still run higher than +15. I would just get one +15 chest instead of 3??

My issues is that a lot of groups overkill the mythic+. Lets say a 890+ group runs MAW 7-9. WHY? To get 3 chests! If u have a 870 group, u will easily make it in time, however u might only achieve ONE chest.

So lower ilevel players have less chance joining a group and higher ilevel players have less challange.
A +9 gives base ilevel of 860. This is no intertessting for a 890 player. whereas a +15 gives 885 base ilevel loot.

And if u get one chest no matter of how fast (yet still in time) with a 100% loot, it would be more interesting for a 890 player to run +15 instead of 3chesting 7-9.

[Temp name]

And if u get one chest no matter of how fast (yet still in time) with a 100% loot, it would be more interesting for a 890 player to run +15 instead of 3chesting 7-9.

But they'll still run 7-9's for AP.
No one in 890+ gear is running 7-9's for gear, this wouldn't change anything.

[saphka]

Each chest in Mythic+ dungeons regardless of speed of difficulty contains 2 pieces of loot for the party. Just because you may not get a piece of loot in a run does not mean that the chest contained zero loot. 3 chesting a dungeon yields 6 total pieces of loot for the party.

[Sámsa]

Each chest in Mythic+ dungeons regardless of speed of difficulty contains 2 pieces of loot for the party. Just because you may not get a piece of loot in a run does not mean that the chest contained zero loot. 3 chesting a dungeon yields 6 total pieces of loot for the party.

^This.

It´s like PL. All bosses drop the same amount of loot. Regardless of ML GL or PL.
And the m+ loot system is simply PL

[Cabr]

Lets say a 890+ group runs MAW 7-9. WHY? To get 3 chests!

They don't do it to get 3 chests. They do it to get AP. It just so happens that they end up 3 chesting it because they want to get that AP as fast as possible.

[Alvito]

Lowering the rewards to ensure all people get an item they may not want/need is not good change to the system.

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My issues is that a lot of groups overkill the mythic+. Lets say a 890+ group runs MAW 7-9. WHY? To get 3 chests! If u have a 870 group, u will easily make it in time, however u might only achieve ONE chest.

So lower ilevel players have less chance joining a group and higher ilevel players have less challange.
A +9 gives base ilevel of 860. This is no intertessting for a 890 player. whereas a +15 gives 885 base ilevel loot.

And if u get one chest no matter of how fast (yet still in time) with a 100% loot, it would be more interesting for a 890 player to run +15 instead of 3chesting 7-9.

When I do anything below 10 it is to help people or for quick AP and to rank up somebodies key. It certainly isn't for some item I am going to shard or maybe trade away.

[Mokuna]

So you want to punish people that can 3 chests the highest difficulty currently just because your guild rather do low keys than try to be good?
A lot of people are only running 12+ keys currently because we're at the point of overgearing even +15 massively, if your guild doesn't want to do it it's a player issue not a game design issue

[GutsAP]

How would this change anything at all? People are still going to 3 chest to get their 15's done for the week as soon as possible and scrubs still won't get invited.

[ItsTiddles]

Most of the people I've seen complain about m+s do so for one of two reasons.
1. It's repetitive and they aren't interested in doing the same dungeons over and over again, especially with a time limit.
2. They don't have a consistent group and pugging it can go poorly.

I don't really see people complain about the looting aspect, unless they are doing it rarely and just salty that RNG isn't in their favor. People who are farming or pushing m+ keys are bound to get loot. I'm at 906 ilvl and stil have 4 m+ pieces equipped in resto, 6 in ele. The loot is there if you're actually doing it more than just "queue 1-2 to get my 15 for the week". Even then, still decent chances at loot for the majority of people.