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    Quote Originally Posted by draynay View Post
    Te'o close to signing with the Saints.
    Interesting. Another so-so LB you have to hope pans out. Have to figure the Saints hit on one of them at some point.

    Honestly though, it's not like the free agent LB group was anything to cheer about. It was Hightower, Zach Brown and then mostly guys that are fairly interchangeable talent level, just have to find the right fit for the system you run. Saints did fairly well picking up Te'o, if it's for the kind of deal I suspect it will be (small and short) though. Definitely an upgrade over Laurenatis from last year.

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    Sooooooo, apparently the Competition Comittee is contemplating reducing the Overtime period in pre-season and regular season to 10 min instead of 15 min. Post season would stay 15 min.

    Cause those 5 min less will really do anything. And having 2 different measures for OT won't be really confusing. Uh-huh.

    Have to wonder what the hell those guys are smoking at times. What's even the purpose here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xskarma View Post
    Interesting. Another so-so LB you have to hope pans out. Have to figure the Saints hit on one of them at some point.

    Honestly though, it's not like the free agent LB group was anything to cheer about. It was Hightower, Zach Brown and then mostly guys that are fairly interchangeable talent level, just have to find the right fit for the system you run. Saints did fairly well picking up Te'o, if it's for the kind of deal I suspect it will be (small and short) though. Definitely an upgrade over Laurenatis from last year.

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    Sooooooo, apparently the Competition Comittee is contemplating reducing the Overtime period in pre-season and regular season to 10 min instead of 15 min. Post season would stay 15 min.

    Cause those 5 min less will really do anything. And having 2 different measures for OT won't be really confusing. Uh-huh.

    Have to wonder what the hell those guys are smoking at times. What's even the purpose here?
    They believe a team is disadvantaged if they have to play a full 15-minute overtime and have a Thursday night game coming up the next week. How often does that happen though? It seems like a waste of time to change tbh.


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    Oh and the Bucs are bringing in Nick Folk, apparently they weren't to happy with their second round kicker

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    Considering how much of a difference it made for McManus, I'm surprised more teams don't bring in vet kickers to help out younger ones that are struggling with accuracy. I know some of them wouldn't want to help someone that would push them out of the league, but it worked out fine for Connor Barth. Only 46 of the 53 guys on the roster can dress for game day anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by xskarma View Post
    Sooooooo, apparently the Competition Comittee is contemplating reducing the Overtime period in pre-season and regular season to 10 min instead of 15 min. Post season would stay 15 min.

    Cause those 5 min less will really do anything. And having 2 different measures for OT won't be really confusing. Uh-huh.

    Have to wonder what the hell those guys are smoking at times. What's even the purpose here?
    Probably have spent too much time in Colorado.

    Since this is the NFL rules committee, nothing dumb they come up with would surprise me. Only 2 good rules recently they have changes were chop-blocks becoming a penalty and moving back the extra point. Completely removing OT in pre-season would be the way to go, but reducing it is a good start. Makes no sense at all to have different OT rules in the regular and post seasons outside of playoff games not being able to end in a tie though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skayaq View Post
    They believe a team is disadvantaged if they have to play a full 15-minute overtime and have a Thursday night game coming up the next week. How often does that happen though? It seems like a waste of time to change tbh.
    Yeah, cause chopping a whole 5 min off overtime is really going to do much. What difference would that make in actual time? 15 min, 20 min? At best. Seems completely pointless.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grube View Post
    Since this is the NFL rules committee, nothing dumb they come up with would surprise me. Only 2 good rules recently they have changes were chop-blocks becoming a penalty and moving back the extra point. Completely removing OT in pre-season would be the way to go, but reducing it is a good start. Makes no sense at all to have different OT rules in the regular and post seasons outside of playoff games not being able to end in a tie though.
    If you are the competition committee don;t you give the league a leg up and eliminate overtime from pre-season entirely? No one wants to see overtime in pre-season, especially not in week 4. That would definitely be put on my list of good changes they made. (I also think the upcoming ban on jumping over the line to block kicks is a good one, but that was proposed by the NFLPA, not the competition committee at first)

    ALSO, if you are the competition committee and you are so concerned about those poor guys having to play 20 min longer, then here's a good idea to dramatically shorten OT: No commercials anymore. There I just saved you enough time to send everyone home on time AND make viewers happy. Win/win.

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    Cowboys resigned Kellen Moore. So we still have a backup at least.

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    I didn't think they even had OT in the pre-season, why bother?

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    Quote Originally Posted by draynay View Post
    I didn't think they even had OT in the pre-season, why bother?
    I think it's sorta an unwritten rule amongst the teams that you don't try to tie it up late in the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skayaq View Post
    I think it's sorta an unwritten rule amongst the teams that you don't try to tie it up late in the game.
    This is what I usually see, nobody playing for a tie, they're always going for the score instead of the tying kick. Hopefully coaches can continue to circumvent this nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendulous View Post
    Cowboys resigned Kellen Moore. So we still have a backup at least.
    They're still holding Tony Romo hostage aren't they?

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    Thought you would be interested in this news that ESPN wants us all to know #tebowwatch #teamtebow #sub500ops


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    Quote Originally Posted by draynay View Post
    This is what I usually see, nobody playing for a tie, they're always going for the score instead of the tying kick. Hopefully coaches can continue to circumvent this nonsense.

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    They're still holding Tony Romo hostage aren't they?
    Yeah, but I guess everyone still assumes he won't be there at the start of the season.

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    Josh McCown is going to be the Jets QB it looks like as they have signed him. Jay Cutler's visit has been canceled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vetali View Post
    Josh McCown is going to be the Jets QB it looks like as they have signed him. Jay Cutler's visit has been canceled.
    Jets officially tanking the season. They were always gonna be bad, now they're gonna be "Josh McCown bad".

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    Quote Originally Posted by draynay View Post
    Jets officially tanking the season. They were always gonna be bad, now they're gonna be "Josh McCown bad".
    Yep, they are just blatantly already throwing their hat in the ring and saying "we'll suck and we'll get the no. 1 overall pick in 2018 and take a QB and rebuild" just like the Browns did last year (except I'm not sure there's a QB the Browns actually want to take).

    I suspect the Jets will have some competition though. I started ticking of teams with big question marks and it's an awful lot of them, but Jets are definitely the team to beat.

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    Why does it feel like the same teams year in and year out struggle to find a good franchise quarterback? Granted, most of the ones around right now are older, so they're already established, but you still have young ones like Wilson and Luck. It seems like every year, the same damn teams are like "well, we'll grab this shitty backup from free agency, maybe he'll work out, even though we know he won't".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendulous View Post
    Why does it feel like the same teams year in and year out struggle to find a good franchise quarterback? Granted, most of the ones around right now are older, so they're already established, but you still have young ones like Wilson and Luck. It seems like every year, the same damn teams are like "well, we'll grab this shitty backup from free agency, maybe he'll work out, even though we know he won't".
    Because most of the backups suffer behind shitters, and get forced into playing before they're ready. Couple that with most of the headliner rookies in recent memory decide they want to run (which gets them murdered in the NFL), and they get hurt before they have a chance to mature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xskarma View Post
    Jets are definitely the team to beat.
    That's what they want!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendulous View Post
    Why does it feel like the same teams year in and year out struggle to find a good franchise quarterback? Granted, most of the ones around right now are older, so they're already established, but you still have young ones like Wilson and Luck. It seems like every year, the same damn teams are like "well, we'll grab this shitty backup from free agency, maybe he'll work out, even though we know he won't".
    Cause franchise QBs don't grow on trees. The last draft to produce multiple elite level QBs was 2012. Since then we got maybe one or two other QBs, both of which I would consider unproven.

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    I was looking at horrible Cleveland QBs and Manziel actually has the best record of anybody since they dumped Hoyer

    Hoyer 10-6 .625 W%
    Manziel 2-6 .250 W%
    RGIII 1-4 .200 W%
    McCown 1-10 .091 W%
    Kessler 0-8 .000 W%
    A. Davis 0-2 .000 W%
    C. Shaw 0-1 .000 W%

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    Josh McCown has now been on 10 different NFL teams. That is Matt Stairs/Octaveo Dotel journeyman level.

    Quote Originally Posted by draynay View Post
    I was looking at horrible Cleveland QBs and Manziel actually has the best record of anybody since they dumped Hoyer

    Hoyer 10-6 .625 W%
    Manziel 2-6 .250 W%
    RGIII 1-4 .200 W%
    McCown 1-10 .091 W%
    Kessler 0-8 .000 W%
    A. Davis 0-2 .000 W%
    C. Shaw 0-1 .000 W%
    Since this iteration of the Browns came into existence they have only had 2 winning seasons, a 9-7 record with Tim Couch/Kelly Holcomb and 10-6 with Derek Anderson/Charlie Fry. Kind of shows how terrible that organization is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grube View Post
    Since this iteration of the Browns came into existence they have only had 2 winning seasons, a 9-7 record with Tim Couch/Kelly Holcomb and 10-6 with Derek Anderson/Charlie Fry. Kind of shows how terrible that organization is.
    Another depressing thing:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_C..._Browns_season

    Start there and keep going back in seasons looking at pro bowlers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vetali View Post
    Another depressing thing:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_C..._Browns_season

    Start there and keep going back in seasons looking at pro bowlers.
    4-12 with 6 pro bowlers, that's amazing. Patriots had like 4 or 5 this year. I think 4 or 5 is what the Patriots usually have and they are usually getting a lot of invites. Getting 6 at 4-12, amazing.

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