7.2 Fury Guide & FAQ

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Op provides you with a list of BiS. But considering how much the non dps legendaries have been buffed, and how the set pieces' itemization is ... unequal between the pieces, head and cloak may not be what grants you the most dps increase, so as with so much questions asked here, the answer is "sim it bruh"

Thanks for the answer Archimtiros !

[Roiids]

hello

i come back to play one month ago, atm i have 4 legendaries (waist crafted, ayala, sephuz and mannoroth). With waist and wrists i have 29% haste and 39% mastery. I should change legendary? or is good?

The BiS legendaries are still back and head? or head and waist crafted? Because at the moment i think we can go offset with chest from guld'an, is a good idea?

Thanks

Helm/Crafted belt comes out the highest but its so small like 1K dps that I use the neck/helm because that shield is awesome.

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Helm/Crafted belt comes out the highest but its so small like 1K dps that I use the neck/helm because that shield is awesome.

ok thanks.

anyway, always the same rule. Now i have the waist crafted and from the mythic weekly chest i have found a 905 waist with socket and haste/mastery. Damn game lol

[Roiids]

ok thanks.

anyway, always the same rule. Now i have the waist crafted and from the mythic weekly chest i have found a 905 waist with socket and haste/mastery. Damn game lol

Consider yourself super lucky I am yet to find a well itemized belt. I have been using the M one with crit on it from NH. Would love to get a haste/mastery with a socket that would huge.

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yes this is really good, now with legionfall supplies i have found the back.

now? which 2 of wrists, back and waist crafted? i have 915 wrist crit and not so much haste.

ok i made some test:

- wrists and waist crafted: 29%haste, 39%mastery and 4% versatility
- back and waist crafted: 27%haste, 37%mastery and 2% versatility, and 2ilvl more = +500str

what do you think?

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yes this is really good, now with legionfall supplies i have found the back.

now? which 2 of wrists, back and waist crafted? i have 915 wrist crit and not so much haste.

ok i made some test:

- wrists and waist crafted: 29%haste, 39%mastery and 4% versatility
- back and waist crafted: 27%haste, 37%mastery and 2% versatility, and 2ilvl more = +500str

what do you think?

just sim it? takes like 2mins

[Gotaur]

Archi,
I am a thankfull user of your guide, and it helped me so much.
I know that you have more things to do, but...
Do you think in make a boss by boss NH (and others raids) tips and tricks guide for us fury? This would increase a lot of our DPS, since the rotation is dramatically impacted by boss mechanics. For instance, we need to keep our BC (crying for not using it) in Mythic Krosus, to help handle the adds...and about boss mechanics interrupt juggernought stacks (like Guldan, Krosus, etc).
If any other person do that would be nice...

[Arbiter]

Archi,
I am a thankfull user of your guide, and it helped me so much.
I know that you have more things to do, but...
Do you think in make a boss by boss NH (and others raids) tips and tricks guide for us fury? This would increase a lot of our DPS, since the rotation is dramatically impacted by boss mechanics. For instance, we need to keep our BC (crying for not using it) in Mythic Krosus, to help handle the adds...and about boss mechanics interrupt juggernought stacks (like Guldan, Krosus, etc).
If any other person do that would be nice...

It's not necessary. You could analyze warcraft logs top ranks for specific fights and get a pretty good idea of what cooldowns they held and when.

[orgonutil]

It's not necessary. You could analyze warcraft logs top ranks for specific fights and get a pretty good idea of what cooldowns they held and when.

like he said, you can learn these with logs, and sometimes a better dps in log isnot better than a lower dps overall in the fight and more dps in a crucial moment of the fight for progression and when you use the CDs can be diferent from diferent strategies or kill times

[Arbiter]

and sometimes a better dps in log isnot better than a lower dps overall in the fight and more dps in a crucial moment of the fight for progression and when you use the CDs can be diferent from diferent strategies or kill times

Yea but this really comes down to logic. Generally you would want to be more effective in a general sense of the fight (if the same CD will net you triple the damage at one moment than the next thus speeding the fight up then it's a good thing), but sure if you're struggling on a specific mechanic then logic would dictate to hold your CDs for it. A guide can't decide that for you.

There aren't really any useless things to damage in order to cheese fights outside of cheesing Skorp by holding him at the cave entrance (Trilliax's adds are excluded from WCL) so pretty much all damage is useful.

[Roiids]

Yea but this really comes down to logic. Generally you would want to be more effective in a general sense of the fight (if the same CD will net you triple the damage at one moment than the next thus speeding the fight up then it's a good thing), but sure if you're struggling on a specific mechanic then logic would dictate to hold your CDs for it. A guide can't decide that for you.

There aren't really any useless things to damage in order to cheese fights outside of cheesing Skorp by holding him at the cave entrance (Trilliax's adds are excluded from WCL) so pretty much all damage is useful.

Trilliax add in Mythic is not excluded but also a burn target. Would agree there isnt really any cheese damage in nighthold. Any add that is alive needs to die in most scenarios.

[Arbiter]

Trilliax add in Mythic is not excluded but also a burn target. Would agree there isnt really any cheese damage in nighthold. Any add that is alive needs to die in most scenarios.

True. Was only referring to Normal and Heroic since I haven't done any progression after coming back from hiatus so didn't think to consider Mythic lol.

[Archimtiros]

Trilliax add in Mythic is not excluded but also a burn target. Would agree there isnt really any cheese damage in nighthold. Any add that is alive needs to die in most scenarios.

He was referring to the scrubbers, which are excluded on mythic. The copies aren't, but they aren't AoE targets, are meant to die, and are not abusable the way extra targets on Skorpyon/Tichondrius are, which is why they aren't excluded.

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Archi,
I am a thankfull user of your guide, and it helped me so much.
I know that you have more things to do, but...
Do you think in make a boss by boss NH (and others raids) tips and tricks guide for us fury? This would increase a lot of our DPS, since the rotation is dramatically impacted by boss mechanics. For instance, we need to keep our BC (crying for not using it) in Mythic Krosus, to help handle the adds...and about boss mechanics interrupt juggernought stacks (like Guldan, Krosus, etc).
If any other person do that would be nice...

I recognize the desire, and while I don't think "you can just analyze WCL" is a good answer, it's not something I'm interested in doing right now.

[Meanshield]

If you have 4PC, Draught, CoF, along with legendary cloak, is it worth to use BT before Draught/Rampage/OF for the 1% dmg increase (potentially 2-4% if multiple targets) ?

[Missyl]

If you have 4PC, Draught, CoF, along with legendary cloak, is it worth to use BT before Draught/Rampage/OF for the 1% dmg increase (potentially 2-4% if multiple targets) ?

•With Kazzalax, Bloodthirst can be used on the pull immediately before Battle Cry.

The answer is in the Guide

[Meanshield]

The answer is in the Guide

Must've missed that section. Ty.

[Seramore]

If you have 4PC, Draught, CoF, along with legendary cloak, is it worth to use BT before Draught/Rampage/OF for the 1% dmg increase (potentially 2-4% if multiple targets) ?

Yes, especially considering how we have Oathblood now and could get 2% damage if procced.

[Thorgarth]

Is the 200 STR gem worth using at all, or stick with secondary stats?

[Paleaura]

Is the 200 STR gem worth using at all, or stick with secondary stats?

You should sim it, but in most cases, no, its not worth it.

[Archimtiros]

Is the 200 STR gem worth using at all, or stick with secondary stats?

It can occasionally be very slightly higher, but isn't really worth the extra cost.