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  1. #181
    Quote Originally Posted by vondevon View Post
    You're right, a 13-year-old used his vast wordly experience, intellectual wit, devilish charm to seduce a 43-year-old woman into being his sugar momma. It makes so much sense! Gosh, why didn't I think to do this?
    This might be just me, but when I was a 13yo kid, I knew exactly which girl I liked and why I liked her and what I could've done if she liked me too. Regardless of what anyone gave me, told me and so on. If you didn't have a similar experience, that speaks very very bad about you....

  2. #182
    Quote Originally Posted by Nexx226 View Post
    You should read up on the sex ed programs in the US. Something like half the states literally make it illegal to have sex ed classes. Wanna guess which ones?
    that was kind of implied in my statement :P and it was a religious school, so their lack of educating people about this due to religious reasons caused this.

  3. #183
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    i wouldnt know about him, but it looks like she could do with a shave.

  4. #184
    I would like to know the difference between a 13 year old receiving gifts for sex from a 45 year old and a 20 year old receiving gifts for sex from a 45 year old. And then explain to me why one is a victim and the other is not. And if your only excuse is its the law then fine. And you would have to agree in countries where its not the law this interaction would be fine for you as well.

  5. #185
    What I don't get in some of these cases (but not all):

    - not ugly
    - drives nice car
    - clearly has a little bit of money

    Why in the world was she trolling for kid booty? She could have probably got any number of ass from dudes her age or even 20+

    When the pedo is just fat/ugly/whatever I can at least mull over the idea why they do it.

  6. #186
    Quote Originally Posted by vondevon View Post
    You're right, a 13-year-old used his vast wordly experience, intellectual wit, devilish charm to seduce a 43-year-old woman into being his sugar momma. It makes so much sense! Gosh, why didn't I think to do this?
    yet in 5 years he can vote for our president if he was a US citizen.

    But anyways what the woman did was wrong and illegal.

  7. #187
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeek Daniels View Post
    I would like to know the difference between a 13 year old receiving gifts for sex from a 45 year old and a 20 year old receiving gifts for sex from a 45 year old. And then explain to me why one is a victim and the other is not. And if your only excuse is its the law then fine. And you would have to agree in countries where its not the law this interaction would be fine for you as well.
    Can YOU tell us the difference?
    Because the way you are writing this makes it sound like you are fine with it as long as its not technically illegal?

    If the legal age didnt exist and people were trying to shag 10 year olds, I still wouldnt be ok with it.

  8. #188
    Quote Originally Posted by Tommi View Post
    i specifically flipped through this thread to see how long it was until this clip was posted, I'm a little shocked that it was all the way on page 6

  9. #189
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeek Daniels View Post
    And then explain to me why one is a victim and the other is not. And if your only excuse is its the law then fine. And you would have to agree in countries where its not the law this interaction would be fine for you as well.
    Again, the issue is the double-standard a lot of people seem to have. Swap around the gender of them and see how many people say that it is perfectly fine.

    Might be that for some guys here it would not be an issue. But that's not the point - but rather that making it seem like it's not an issue/a crime in general makes it harder for those who are negatively affected to actually find help and be taken seriously.
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  10. #190
    For 43 she looks pretty hot.

  11. #191
    Quote Originally Posted by Pendra View Post
    Again, the issue is the double-standard a lot of people seem to have. Swap around the gender of them and see how many people say that it is perfectly fine.

    Might be that for some guys here it would not be an issue. But that's not the point - but rather that making it seem like it's not an issue/a crime in general makes it harder for those who are negatively affected to actually find help and be taken seriously.
    Maybe because some people care more about how the supposed victim is affected than some abstract, PC notion of equal treatment.

    Also, a lot of people here seem to conflate the cutoff age for pedophilia, which is 13 (technically puberty) with the age of consent, which is anywhere between 12 and 21 world-wide and 14-18 in the western world, and the legal age to appear in porn, which is 18.

    The article says the boy was 13, which can very well mean 13 and 11 months. In many European countries, such as Germany and Italy, this is very close to the age of consent (14), and seeing how it's a boy and boys are exposed to fewer risks from starting their sex lives young, people are naturally not that shocked. I understand that in some US states the age of consent is 18, which makes a 13 years old having sex look a lot worse, but this is an international forum, many people posting here are not subject to US law and don't need to treat it like it was objectively correct.

  12. #192
    Quote Originally Posted by Coconut View Post
    Maybe because some people care more about how the supposed victim is affected than some abstract, PC notion of equal treatment.

    Also, a lot of people here seem to conflate the cutoff age for pedophilia, which is 13 (technically puberty) with the age of consent, which is anywhere between 12 and 21 world-wide and 14-18 in the western world, and the legal age to appear in porn, which is 18.

    The article says the boy was 13, which can very well mean 13 and 11 months. In many European countries, such as Germany and Italy, this is very close to the age of consent (14), and seeing how it's a boy and boys are exposed to fewer risks from starting their sex lives young, people are naturally not that shocked. I understand that in some US states the age of consent is 18, which makes a 13 years old having sex look a lot worse, but this is an international forum, many people posting here are not subject to US law and don't need to treat it like it was objectively correct.
    In Denmark where the age of consent is 15, I always feel weird as fuck when people talk about a 15-16 year old having sex with someone and people calling the one they had sex with a "damn pedo". Also, good on you for pointing out that pedophilia has to do with puberty and not age according to laws. I feel like with this, and many other cases, the main problem is not only the age (gotta say, 13 is too young), but the position of power between the 2 people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chelly View Post
    A kid can't consent - morally and legally. They can easily be tricked by adults. A 20 year old knows exactly why he/she is doing it.

    The fact that you're advocating for having sex with minors is beyond fucked up.
    The fact that you're calling what he said "advocating" for it is pretty fucked up.

  14. #194
    Quote Originally Posted by Zogarth View Post
    In Denmark where the age of consent is 15, I always feel weird as fuck when people talk about a 15-16 year old having sex with someone and people calling the one they had sex with a "damn pedo". Also, good on you for pointing out that pedophilia has to do with puberty and not age according to laws. I feel like with this, and many other cases, the main problem is not only the age (gotta say, 13 is too young), but the position of power between the 2 people.
    I personally think an adult having sex with someone who hasn't finished high school is weird, and it gets weirder the larger the age gap is. But is it lynch mob or jail time weird? Not really, no.

    This case should be judged based on the level of psychological manipulation rather than the sex itself. Did she use her authority and/or gifts to lure him into a sexual relationship he didn't understand or wasn't really into? Did she use the sex itself to manipulate him into some emotional attachment he wasn't ready for or wasn't in his interest? Then yeah, harsh punishment. If the kid is fine, slap on the wrist will do.

    I mostly have a problem with people who don't really care about the boy's point of view, but are clamoring for her head in the name of equal treatment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinrael View Post
    This might be just me, but when I was a 13yo kid, I knew exactly which girl I liked and why I liked her and what I could've done if she liked me too. Regardless of what anyone gave me, told me and so on. If you didn't have a similar experience, that speaks very very bad about you....
    Quote Originally Posted by stomination View Post
    yet in 5 years he can vote for our president if he was a US citizen.

    But anyways what the woman did was wrong and illegal.
    Both of you are completely missing the point. It isn't about the kid. It's about a 43-year-old adult being attracted to a 13-year-old child. Go look at a yearbook, look at what a 13-year-old person looks like. They are unmistakably children. @stomination 5 years, for a child, makes a huge difference in terms of development. You would clearly be able to distinguish a 10-year-old from a 15-year-old, and likewise a 13-year-old from an 18-year-old.

    The problem is that all of you are trying to identify with this teenage boy, his raging hormones and sexual drive, and you feel this sick and misplaced jealousy. Personally I don't think a 13-year-old is mature enough to fully grasp the consequences of sex, in its entirety, and therefor probably shouldn't be having it. (It's one thing to know what condoms are and how they work, but it's another to decide in the moment to refrain from sex if you don't have one handy. I know plenty of adults who make this mistake still and now they have kids they didn't plan on.) However, this would be an entirely different issue if the child had sex with another child of a similar age.

    You are completely ignoring the fact that the person he had a sexual relationship with was his 43-year-old teacher.

    A 13-year-old could be easily manipulated by a 17-year-old, let alone someone 30 years his senior. Then you add on top of that, the fact that this was a teacher and an authority figure in his life... This woman is a sexual predator.

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    Lucky that she isn't a old, fat, bald guy. Would face 500 years in prison.

    http://www.statesville.com/townnews/...9cff07ce3.html

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    Not directly on topic, but how is it that defense of infancy in the USA is 11-13, yet age of consent is 16-18?
    Doesn't make any sense that they are so far apart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyr View Post
    i specifically flipped through this thread to see how long it was until this clip was posted, I'm a little shocked that it was all the way on page 6
    Same. I was thinking " someones GOT to have posted it by page 3 or 4.... Nope.

  18. #198
    Quote Originally Posted by vondevon View Post
    Both of you are completely missing the point. It isn't about the kid. It's about a 43-year-old adult being attracted to a 13-year-old child. Go look at a yearbook, look at what a 13-year-old person looks like. They are unmistakably children. @stomination 5 years, for a child, makes a huge difference in terms of development. You would clearly be able to distinguish a 10-year-old from a 15-year-old, and likewise a 13-year-old from an 18-year-old.

    The problem is that all of you are trying to identify with this teenage boy, his raging hormones and sexual drive, and you feel this sick and misplaced jealousy. Personally I don't think a 13-year-old is mature enough to fully grasp the consequences of sex, in its entirety, and therefor probably shouldn't be having it. (It's one thing to know what condoms are and how they work, but it's another to decide in the moment to refrain from sex if you don't have one handy. I know plenty of adults who make this mistake still and now they have kids they didn't plan on.) However, this would be an entirely different issue if the child had sex with another child of a similar age.

    You are completely ignoring the fact that the person he had a sexual relationship with was his 43-year-old teacher.

    A 13-year-old could be easily manipulated by a 17-year-old, let alone someone 30 years his senior. Then you add on top of that, the fact that this was a teacher and an authority figure in his life... This woman is a sexual predator.
    Really? I am feeling "jealousy" now? Look, I've never had it for older women, even if they were just 1-2 years older than me... If I were in his shoes, no matter what that 43yo teacher gave or offered me, I wouldn't have agreed to have sex with her. BUT, if that's what the boy is into, why not just let him?

    And about the 43yo teacher. There are all kinds of people out there. We are all different and have different tastes. Not trying to defend phedophilia, but I guarantee you, the boy knew what he was doing and obviously enjoyed it as well. If he didn't know what he was doing, then that's fine. We already have plenty enough stupid people on this planet...
    Last edited by Shinrael; 2017-05-08 at 08:46 AM.

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    No real crime happened, I would gladly be seduced at 13

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    She should have stuck to shota

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