On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.
- H. L. Mencken
I doubt he will be impeached.
Re-elected? This, once again, is going to be determined entirely by the other side. Trump is such a rambling idiot that the only way he can get voters is if the public is afraid of the alternative.
With Hillary rearing her ugly head again, Antifa loudly and publicly shouting their opposition to Trump while smashing peoples skulls in with bike locks and burning cars, the natural response for a lot of people will be to jump to Trump's side.
It will also take a lot more than 4 years to cleanse the democrats of all the decaying filth that currently resides there. Voting left right now seems like voting against yourself.
"Hillary or Bernie"... "Hillary" "H" "i" "l" "l" "a" "r" "y" LUUUUUUULL... WHAAAAAT!!??? No.. Donald getting impeached doesn't mean Hillary is next in line.. are you serious?
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Keith Olbermann is probably the saltiest liberal in the world. I'd take anything he says with a "grain of salt" .. lul..
I believe you need a majority in the House to vote for it, plus a two-thirds majority in the Senate. I can't imagine a scenario where anyone would vote to impeach a candidate of their own party in the modern system, so it's basically almost impossible to impeach a US president. Nixon might've been but he resigned before it could happen.
Keith Olbermann has been running a gaslighting campaign ever since the election, trying to poison the well against Trump. All it actually achieves is further dividing a country's population with lies and tinfoil hat theories, people like him and Maddow are as bad as Fox was during the Obama administration.
There's this constant opinion going around that if you dislike the result of a vote you can change it anyway, before the term expires.
That's not how this works.
The Democrats are likely to win a majority in the House and Senate because that's what happens historically, people blame the president for stuff so they vote in senators and congressmen who oppose the president.
But even with a Democrat majority, you need a sizable group of Republicans to join the Democrats in impeaching Trump otherwise it won't look legit. Why does it have to look legit? If it doesn't look legit you'll get huge voter backlash, in this case against the Democrats.
This is what happened when the Republicans tried to impeach Clinton.
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"This will be a fight against overwhelming odds from which survival cannot be expected. We will do what damage we can."
-- Capt. Copeland
The division is there for good reason. Trump ran his campaign in an unacceptable manner. This is the consequences of it. Legitimacy comes from not just gaining power, but how one gained it and how they used it.
Trump is President of the United States. But he's wholly illegitimate. He's something to be torn down. If you want a moment that this became the case as President, it was 30 seconds after being sworn in, with his "American Carnage" speech, the single worst political speech by a President in modern American history.
And honestly, even beating Trump won't be enough. The next step will be to make sure there isn't a sequel.
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Democrats are well positioned to win the House in 2018 according to latest looks. The chances of them winning the Senate in 2018 are very slim. They'll probably lose a few seats overall, but it'll be less than expected.
The map for Democrats and Republicans is kind of a toss up in 2020 with Democrats having a slight advantage. Republicans have to defend far more states, but have basically no avenues to win new states. Democrats have to defend very few states, but have just 3 modest options for gaining seats (Iowa, North Carolina, Maine)/
Honestly the most important thing for democrats is that they nail 2018 Gubernatorial elections and retake state houses in 2018 and 2020. This will position them well for 2020 redistricting which kicks into effect in 2022.
The amount of fingers-in-ears, pants-on-head ignorance by leftists in this thread just goes to show what the future really holds.
I have a feeling at some point Trump will be sidelined as his mental state becomes debilitating. Something seems wrong with him, and I don't think it is simply crippling stupidity.
At that point Pence will be president and I really don't know if that would be a good thing... He's a scumbag politician who might actually get something done. A thing we don't want republicans trying their best to be saturday morning cartoon villains to be able to do.
Honestly, Republican voters seem weirdly content with corruption just happening before there eyes - I mean can you really expect much from a voter base that willingly voted in a random celebrity?
As for the Democratic Party, anyone I spoke to about it seemed to be just voting for Hillary because thats their party or because the alternative is a wild card. No one really seemed happy with Hillary as the candidate and I've felt like the democrat voter base has felt a bit cheated ever since Obama was voted in on 'change' and 'hope' and not only continued the things people hated (such as monitoring citizens) but also joined in on yet another middle east freedom venture in the 2011 Libyan intervention.
Honestly, as a guy in the Centre-Left, I feel like I have a choice between Religious nutters who love war for the sake of MUH FREEDOM! (the right) and Shady as fuck deep-state politicians who love war for the sake of money (the left).
Trump was suppose to be the wild card that fucked up the deep state big time, instead he seems to just be joining it.
Probably not hes mellowing out and is boring now
never lol
the gop isn't going to impeach their own president, count on it
plus he's already their puppet, it's clear this president is both utterly inexperienced and largely apathetic so yeah, they got a guy who will do exactly what they want
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