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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by shoc View Post
    How would the Russians know about Seth? Russia interfering with the US Election wouldn't become a narrative for nearly 2 weeks after he was murdered. Prior to the WikiLeaks DNC leak, not a single US politician uttered the word 'Russia collusion'. The chronology of the allegation that Seth was killed by Russians doesn't make any sense.
    Ummmm... the US department of homeland security have said, via their investigations, that it was Russia who passed the leaks to Wikkileaks, remember?

    They didn't just start up their shit on the day people started talking about/finding out about them, you know that - right?
    Last edited by mvallas; 2017-05-20 at 12:49 AM.
    Isn't it immature that you call him Donald "Dump"?
    I agree, it's childish and stupid - and that's my point. it's meant as a deliberate mockery of his blatant disrespect via using "Crooked Hillary", and thus I can call him "Dump" since he dumps his campaign promises, dumps campaign managers, dumps his wives, wants to dump the first amendment, dumps common-sense war ethics and dumps the use of proper English in favor of a mongrel white-trash dialect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shoc View Post
    The only reasonable explanation for this
    That is in no way shape or form the only reasonable explanation for this. In fact it defies reason as it requires ignoring evidence to the contrary -- IE -- the entire US intelligence community for starters.

  3. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by shoc View Post
    I think the fact that the accounts belong to him are pretty conclusive, also considering none of them have posted since, you know, he died.
    Its not conclusive. The Pandas4Bernie account has no connection to him. Your case falls apart extremely quickly for being conclusive.

  4. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by Vyuvarax View Post
    Not dismissing stories that have questionable or contradictory accounts, like the investigator claiming his source is the news and the news saying their source is the investigator, is exactly what makes this a conspiracy theory and not grounded in anything real. Kooky thinking like this is the shame of America.
    Note my commentary about the murder itself and not the investigator.

  5. #85
    I think if the story were flipped upside down, people would be singing a very different tune. How do you think people would be reacting if the incident went as follows:

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    On July 10th, GOP Data Analyst Sasha Ruth is murdered while walking home, in a botched robbery, despite the fact that nothing is taken. There are no witnesses, and D.C. Police close the case. Sasha Ruth's father signs a contract with a private investigator, hiring him to investigate her death, while her brother starts a crowdfunding campaign to finance the investigation. WikiLeaks offers a $20,000 dollar reward for information pertaining to her murder, which sparks conspiracy theories suggesting that she is a whistleblower. Fox News dismisses the case as a 'mere conspiracy theory'.

    On July 22, WikiLeaks publishes 33,532 emails from the Trump Campaign, that reveals collusion between Russian diplomats and the Republican Party, and the revelation that Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio and Ben Carson were never going to be allowed to win the Primary from the get-go. Fox News and the Trump Campaign immediately blames the Saudi Arabian Government for hacking into their email server, while the Clinton Campaign and CNN maintains that there is no evidence to suggest that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia had any involvement.

    Following the revelation, Reince Priebus resigns from his post as head of the Republican National Committee.

    The scandal costs Donald Trump the election, and Hillary Clinton handily becomes the President of the United States.

    Months later, CNN reports on the results of the private investigation, finding that Sasha Ruth was in contact with WikiLeaks shortly before her death, suggesting that she was the GOP leaker, and that the Saudi Arabia hacking narrative was pure fiction. Fox News immediately dismisses the case as a conspiracy theory again, and does not report on it again. The Ruth family spokesperson, who turns out to be a Trump Organization PR consultant, also dismisses the case as a 'mere conspiracy theory' and condemns Fox News for disrespecting her legacy.

    Days later, members of reddit.com/r/politics discover Sasha Ruth's social media accounts. Based on her post history, she appears to a very vocal Marco Rubio supporter, and has published many informational graphics promoting Marco's platform. She also publishes very vocal anti-Russian political viewpoints, going so far as to call Trump and the GOP 'traitors to America' due their collusion with the Russians in her manifesto, published just one day before her death.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyuvarax View Post
    Its not conclusive. The Pandas4Bernie account has no connection to him. Your case falls apart extremely quickly for being conclusive.
    What part of this isn't conclusive?


  6. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by shoc View Post
    What part of this isn't conclusive?

    What part is conclusive evidence that the above Instagram profile belongs to the Seth Rich that was killed?

  7. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by Bdatik View Post
    What part is conclusive evidence that the above Instagram profile belongs to the Seth Rich that was killed?
    http://www.wnd.com/2017/05/seth-rich...n-high-school/

    "There are no answers for a young man gunned down in the prime of his life. All we have is questions of what could have been, what should have been and talk of potential greatness for which we will never bear witness. Yet in only 27 years, Seth Rich made a difference in the lives of many, and we honor his memory this morning,” he said. “We are here today to remember a young man who loved his family, his community and his faith. A young man who believed in our country, who believed that our best days as a nation are still in our future. A man who was willing to wear a panda outfit or dress up in red, white and blue when the time called for it. And perhaps most importantly, a man who believed that everyone in our country, no matter their economics, religion or the color of their skin had the right to vote."
    So... we have an Instagram account that belongs to a person named Seth Rich, in which the profile picture is a man wearing a Panda costume, and we know from reports about Seth that he had a penchant for Panda costumes.

    And his former boss made this tweet back in April:



    And in an interview with his family, they have a stuffed panda at their side:

    And a friend of his tweeted a photo of him in his memory, and other friend tweeted @Panda4progress as well.

    https://twitter.com/sonjatrier/statu...15853308325888



    But you're right, this could easily be a coincidence, I'm sure there are many people out there named Seth Rich who go by the handle of panda4progress, and stop posting online around the same time our Seth Rich was murdered .
    Last edited by shoc; 2017-05-20 at 02:06 AM.

  8. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by Yelmurc View Post
    I find it odd though that this comes out on a bad day for Trump in the press
    No offense, but you could say that about any given day about any given person. There are so many stories released every day it's just silly to say that, especially with a story like this that is getting next to zero attention in the press.

    Now, the Wikileaks release of Podesta stuff after the Trump "grab them by the p***y" tape release is no coincidence.

    Edit: Also, its not just bad days for X person. Everyone and every "side" does this to some extent.

  9. #89


    Nice knowing you Democratic Establishment. We're gonna be teaching our kids about this in the history books. Hillary and Podesta are going to join Weiner in jail, Huma will have to flee back to Iran, and the Washington Post will have Breitbart level credibility by the end of the week.

  10. #90
    Oh this conspiracy theory again. Who was it this time? Hillary or aliens?
    I want to be upset when neo right demagogues share the idea not to support equal rights for woman with islamist terrorists.

  11. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by rym View Post
    Oh this conspiracy theory again. Who was it this time? Hillary or aliens?
    Glad you asked. It's Hillary.

  12. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by shoc View Post
    Glad you asked. It's Hillary.
    With or without the help of chemtrails?
    I want to be upset when neo right demagogues share the idea not to support equal rights for woman with islamist terrorists.

  13. #93
    What am I missing here? People think they found Seth Rich's social media accounts so that proves he was murdered by Hillary Clinton?

    W-wha?



    The Seth Rich conspiracy shows how fake news still works
    Last edited by Krigaren; 2017-05-22 at 06:23 PM.
    "Lack of information on your part does not constitute bias on mine."


  14. #94
    Why are some conspiracy theories allowed?
    "I don't want someone who has the knowledge, skill, or even personality necessary to be president. I want someone who can speak his bigoted mind without worrying about offending people!"- The batman

    Common courtesy is like common sense these days, neither of them are too common anymore.

  15. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrt View Post
    When did Fox news become a legit news source?
    At this point? Fox is just as reliable as CNN and the rest of the cable news networks, but more in the light that they've all proven to be just as bad and biased. Fox was a joke compared to the others during the Bush era, but the things CNN has done have shown they're just as shitty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Packers01 View Post
    Why are some conspiracy theories allowed?
    Like the 90 million ones about Trump?

  16. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by shoc View Post
    Picking this thread back up because of today's development.

    4chan's /pol/ found Seth Rich's Social Media accounts.
    Stopped reading.

  17. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by shoc View Post
    I think if the story were flipped upside down, people would be singing a very different tune. How do you think people would be reacting if the incident went as follows:

    ---

    On July 10th, GOP Data Analyst Sasha Ruth is murdered while walking home, in a botched robbery, despite the fact that nothing is taken. There are no witnesses, and D.C. Police close the case. Sasha Ruth's father signs a contract with a private investigator, hiring him to investigate her death, while her brother starts a crowdfunding campaign to finance the investigation. WikiLeaks offers a $20,000 dollar reward for information pertaining to her murder, which sparks conspiracy theories suggesting that she is a whistleblower. Fox News dismisses the case as a 'mere conspiracy theory'.

    On July 22, WikiLeaks publishes 33,532 emails from the Trump Campaign, that reveals collusion between Russian diplomats and the Republican Party, and the revelation that Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio and Ben Carson were never going to be allowed to win the Primary from the get-go. Fox News and the Trump Campaign immediately blames the Saudi Arabian Government for hacking into their email server, while the Clinton Campaign and CNN maintains that there is no evidence to suggest that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia had any involvement.

    Following the revelation, Reince Priebus resigns from his post as head of the Republican National Committee.

    The scandal costs Donald Trump the election, and Hillary Clinton handily becomes the President of the United States.

    Months later, CNN reports on the results of the private investigation, finding that Sasha Ruth was in contact with WikiLeaks shortly before her death, suggesting that she was the GOP leaker, and that the Saudi Arabia hacking narrative was pure fiction. Fox News immediately dismisses the case as a conspiracy theory again, and does not report on it again. The Ruth family spokesperson, who turns out to be a Trump Organization PR consultant, also dismisses the case as a 'mere conspiracy theory' and condemns Fox News for disrespecting her legacy.

    Days later, members of reddit.com/r/politics discover Sasha Ruth's social media accounts. Based on her post history, she appears to a very vocal Marco Rubio supporter, and has published many informational graphics promoting Marco's platform. She also publishes very vocal anti-Russian political viewpoints, going so far as to call Trump and the GOP 'traitors to America' due their collusion with the Russians in her manifesto, published just one day before her death.


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    What part of this isn't conclusive?

    I mean the whole Russia thing has had FAR less evidence and they've eaten it up. If the story was the way you changed it to point towards Russia, you'd be damn sure that you'd be seeing Endus and Edge in here like "AMG WE GOT HIM GUISE WE GOT HIM!"

  18. #98
    Lets talk about the bowling green massacre instead. How many gnomes were killed by solar beams?

    I always forget that.
    I want to be upset when neo right demagogues share the idea not to support equal rights for woman with islamist terrorists.

  19. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by Slybak View Post
    Stopped reading.
    I mean people link Huffington Post here which is practically the same as a source at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shoc View Post


    Nice knowing you Democratic Establishment. We're gonna be teaching our kids about this in the history books. Hillary and Podesta are going to join Weiner in jail, Huma will have to flee back to Iran, and the Washington Post will have Breitbart level credibility by the end of the week.
    So either he's lying and he/Wikileaks do reveal sources, that tweet being the reveal of a source; removing Wikileak's supposed credibility... Or he is bullshitting, the guy isn't a source, that tweet not being the reveal of a source, and he's just fanning the flames...

    Which is it?

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