Thread: SFF Work/Gaming

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    SFF Work/Gaming

    Hey guys its been years since I've been on here and I used to lurk and post in this sub forum a LOT and I've been kinda out of touch with everything since I moved for college but I've got a bigger apartment now with a big desk and despite not having played PC games for over 3 years I wanted a nice, small form factor PC that I can play Overwatch, League, Hearthstone, and whatever random games new or old on. I already have a monitor I use to connect to my MacBook and its a 27" 4k monitor. Don't have an exact 'budget' but trying not to break $2k (lower is better). I'm also going to be using the PC for some Excel work etc. I also need it to have WiFi (particularly good wifi cards, I have a 1Gbps upload/download wireless and I want it to at least take advantage of 100mbps+
    I don't think I'll bother overclocking either on this one but I'm sure you guys can give me the status of overclocking these days
    Heres what I had in mind so far:

    CPU: i5-7600 3.5Ghz
    CPU Cooler: Stock Intel
    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H270N-WIFI Mini ITX
    RAM: 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-2133MHz
    Storage: 500GB Samsung 850 Evo SSD
    Video Card: EVGA GTX 1070 Founders Edition (thought a blower style would be better for an ITX build but please correct me)
    Case: Corsair 250D
    PSU: Corsair RMx 550w


    Was also thinking for Keyboard+headset (I have a mouse): Corsair Strafe RGB (w/ Cherry MX Reds) and the Sennheiser G4ME ZERO headset.

    I have no clue if I can run 4K with this (preferred) but if not, can someone give me an idea of how bad it would be to run at a lower, non-native resolution?

    Edit: im in the USA

    Edit #2: I am also completely open to the idea of a laptop that I can use for the same purpose if anyone has any recommendations
    Last edited by Ripox; 2017-05-20 at 12:18 AM.
    Gaming Rig: CPU: i7-3770k @ 4.5Ghz | CPU Cooler: H100i | Motherboard: GA-Z77X-D3H | RAM: 2x4GB 1600MHz |GPU: GTX 780 | PSU: Corsair TX750M | Case: Cooler Master Storm Stryker | SSD1 (Boot drive): 120GB Kingston | SSD2: 250GB Samsung 840 EVO | HDD: 1TB 7200RPM Seagate Barracuda | Keyboard: Corsair K70 (Black) | Mouse: Razer Naga 2014 | Audio: Razer Tiamat 7.1 | Monitor: LG IPS234 (1920x1080)

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    250D is not really that small of a case to warrant the use of a blower style cooler and a ITX mobo. Also, there is no excuse not to take advantage of overclocking these days. What is your budget on this whole ordeal?

    For the headsets as usual I would recommend Kingston HyperX Cloud Core/Revolver.
    i7-6700K @ 4.6GHz | ASRock Fatal1ty Z170 Gaming K6+ | 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3000/CL15 @ 3200/CL14 | MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X | 256GB Samsung EVO 850 PRO | 2TB WD2003FZEX | 2TB WD20EFRX | Creative Sound Blaster Z | Thermalright Silver Arrow IB-E Extreme | Corsair RM650x | Cooler Master HAF X | Logitech G400s | Tt eSPORTS POSSEIDON | Kingston HyperX Cloud | BenQ XL2411T

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderball View Post
    250D is not really that small of a case to warrant the use of a blower style cooler and a ITX mobo. Also, there is no excuse not to take advantage of overclocking these days. What is your budget on this whole ordeal?

    For the headsets as usual I would recommend Kingston HyperX Cloud Core/Revolver.
    I thought the 250D only works with ITX boards for some reason and given that I don't want to bother adding extra fans etc and I suck at cable management I thought the blower style and the clock on the founders edition would be ideal. Also, with overclocking, I would need a (k) CPU, a Z-mobo (the Z ones with WiFi are expensive) and a good cooler (all of which will add on to the price where I'm shooting for around $1.5k but can go up to $2k as explained in the OP.

    My idea was a great GPU with a decent non-hyperthreaded CPU that is good enough to not deal with OC and hence save money that way.

    Any case recommendations? Any specific builds at all? any idea on anything I asked in the OP with regards to 4K and non-native gaming, etc?
    Gaming Rig: CPU: i7-3770k @ 4.5Ghz | CPU Cooler: H100i | Motherboard: GA-Z77X-D3H | RAM: 2x4GB 1600MHz |GPU: GTX 780 | PSU: Corsair TX750M | Case: Cooler Master Storm Stryker | SSD1 (Boot drive): 120GB Kingston | SSD2: 250GB Samsung 840 EVO | HDD: 1TB 7200RPM Seagate Barracuda | Keyboard: Corsair K70 (Black) | Mouse: Razer Naga 2014 | Audio: Razer Tiamat 7.1 | Monitor: LG IPS234 (1920x1080)

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    For the price of that 7600 you should be able to get a Ryzen 5 1600X/1600. Which should be better in most situations. ITX Boards are out for AMD as well now but stock appears to be limited. For the video card, 1070 is the best in it's price range, nothing from AMD matches it. AMD Vega cards are out soon, but that could be anything from 1-several months.

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    how about this (about $700 more than build in OP, about $500 more than budget, but probably way better?)
    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($329.89 @ OutletPC)
    CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($94.99 @ Newegg)
    Motherboard: Asus - STRIX Z270G Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($189.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($126.59 @ OutletPC)
    Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($169.00 @ B&H)
    Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($247.99 @ B&H)
    Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card ($719.99 @ Amazon)
    Case: Corsair - 350D Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($87.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.89 @ OutletPC)
    Optical Drive: Asus - DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.69 @ OutletPC)
    Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($132.89 @ OutletPC)
    Keyboard: Corsair - STRAFE RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard ($109.99 @ Amazon)
    Headphones: Sennheiser - G4ME ONE Black Headset ($174.95 @ Amazon)
    Total: $2487.84
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-20 19:42 EDT-0400

    Do you guys think I should pull the trigger on this build or the one in the OP? Still need advice with regards to 4K..
    Gaming Rig: CPU: i7-3770k @ 4.5Ghz | CPU Cooler: H100i | Motherboard: GA-Z77X-D3H | RAM: 2x4GB 1600MHz |GPU: GTX 780 | PSU: Corsair TX750M | Case: Cooler Master Storm Stryker | SSD1 (Boot drive): 120GB Kingston | SSD2: 250GB Samsung 840 EVO | HDD: 1TB 7200RPM Seagate Barracuda | Keyboard: Corsair K70 (Black) | Mouse: Razer Naga 2014 | Audio: Razer Tiamat 7.1 | Monitor: LG IPS234 (1920x1080)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripox View Post
    how about this (about $700 more than build in OP, about $500 more than budget, but probably way better?)
    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($329.89 @ OutletPC)
    CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($94.99 @ Newegg)
    Motherboard: Asus - STRIX Z270G Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($189.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($126.59 @ OutletPC)
    Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($169.00 @ B&H)
    Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($247.99 @ B&H)
    Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card ($719.99 @ Amazon)
    Case: Corsair - 350D Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($87.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.89 @ OutletPC)
    Optical Drive: Asus - DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.69 @ OutletPC)
    Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($132.89 @ OutletPC)
    Keyboard: Corsair - STRAFE RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard ($109.99 @ Amazon)
    Headphones: Sennheiser - G4ME ONE Black Headset ($174.95 @ Amazon)
    Total: $2487.84
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-20 19:42 EDT-0400

    Do you guys think I should pull the trigger on this build or the one in the OP? Still need advice with regards to 4K..
    You can save quite a lot buy going for a regular ATX build. Size difference would be small (if at all, especially with AIO) and you're going to have a larger choice of components. You can also save on Windows by getting it from Kinguin (make sure to get buyer protection). Note that you're going to need a fan replacement on a H100i v2 if you value silence. Storage part is overkill but the part selection itself is fine. PSU, memory is good.

    And yes, you can comfortably run 4K 60fps with a GTX 1080Ti.
    i7-6700K @ 4.6GHz | ASRock Fatal1ty Z170 Gaming K6+ | 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3000/CL15 @ 3200/CL14 | MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X | 256GB Samsung EVO 850 PRO | 2TB WD2003FZEX | 2TB WD20EFRX | Creative Sound Blaster Z | Thermalright Silver Arrow IB-E Extreme | Corsair RM650x | Cooler Master HAF X | Logitech G400s | Tt eSPORTS POSSEIDON | Kingston HyperX Cloud | BenQ XL2411T

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    Bump
    Any other opinions?
    What about the GTX 1070 @ 4k? What about playing on non native resolution?
    Gaming Rig: CPU: i7-3770k @ 4.5Ghz | CPU Cooler: H100i | Motherboard: GA-Z77X-D3H | RAM: 2x4GB 1600MHz |GPU: GTX 780 | PSU: Corsair TX750M | Case: Cooler Master Storm Stryker | SSD1 (Boot drive): 120GB Kingston | SSD2: 250GB Samsung 840 EVO | HDD: 1TB 7200RPM Seagate Barracuda | Keyboard: Corsair K70 (Black) | Mouse: Razer Naga 2014 | Audio: Razer Tiamat 7.1 | Monitor: LG IPS234 (1920x1080)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripox View Post
    Bump
    Any other opinions?
    What about the GTX 1070 @ 4k? What about playing on non native resolution?
    GTX 1070 is weak for 4K. If you really want to save money on the build I suggest you save on anything other than a GTX 1080Ti.
    i7-6700K @ 4.6GHz | ASRock Fatal1ty Z170 Gaming K6+ | 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3000/CL15 @ 3200/CL14 | MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X | 256GB Samsung EVO 850 PRO | 2TB WD2003FZEX | 2TB WD20EFRX | Creative Sound Blaster Z | Thermalright Silver Arrow IB-E Extreme | Corsair RM650x | Cooler Master HAF X | Logitech G400s | Tt eSPORTS POSSEIDON | Kingston HyperX Cloud | BenQ XL2411T

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