Page 3 of 10 FirstFirst
1
2
3
4
5
... LastLast
  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    It is almost like Ryzen is years behind intel in every aspect but cores...
    I mean, if it's not utilizing either the GPU or any of the CPU cores fully, it suggests there are optimization issues somewhere. What are people getting for GPU/CPU utilization while running it on Intel CPUs?

  2. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    It is almost like Ryzen is years behind intel in every aspect but cores...
    Did you ever run timespy? This benchmark just hates ryzen for whatever reason, its abnormally low.

  3. #43
    AKA you probably already ran it and didnt wanna post it

  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Fascinate View Post
    Did you ever run timespy? This benchmark just hates ryzen for whatever reason, its abnormally low.
    Timespy results:

    8 755 with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti(1x) and AMD Ryzen 7 1700X
    Graphics Score 9 171
    CPU Score 6 965

  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Tiberria View Post
    Timespy results:

    8 755 with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti(1x) and AMD Ryzen 7 1700X
    Graphics Score 9 171
    CPU Score 6 965
    Yup ryzen does great when the program can use it. Not sure why this one is so poor, i know it scales better than most MMO's but maybe this bench/game needs a ryzen patch too.

    Your 1700x must be at stock, i got a 7846 CPU score with a 3.8ghz OC:
    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/20247887?
    Last edited by Fascinate; 2017-06-04 at 02:21 AM.

  6. #46
    Herald of the Titans Advent's Avatar
    15+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    The Other Side.
    Posts
    2,985
    I wish I could have afforded the 1080 Ti, but I had to settle for the 1080 for 1440p 144Hz instead. Maybe in 2 generations.

  7. #47
    If you look at my post, cpu clock speed means very little in this benchmark but responds well to any amount of extra you can get out of your graphics card. My 6700k at stock 4.0/4.2 boost clock versus a 4.7 OC was only +205 score on the benchmark. A OC of +175 on the core and +500 on the memory of the graphics card gave +1036 score on the benchmark.

    So, I'd say any CPU that is high 3.X GHz is going to perform similarly; but if you can eek out any amount of extra performance from your gpu, you are going to notice it far more. Remember, different cards even from the same manufacturer have different clock speeds depending on the model you get ... so if you have say an EVGA, you could have one of their many different series for each model (FTW, FTW2, SC, SC2, classified, etc) with different factory overclocks that could be some of this discrepency being seen between very similar systems/similar cards.

    I was surprised my card was outperforming a 1070 when you hear they are essentially the same, and I'm on an ultrawide so that should make me look a bit worse as most people aren't running a 21:9 monitor, and with that taken into account, I feel I was comparable enough to a 1080. Doesn't stop me from wishing I had a 1080ti though for no other reason than I want it

    But, overall, everyone looks like they can run the game decently, and most at max without issues
    My PC Build 4790k @ 4.7 GHz @ 1.28v; 1080 @ +175 core, +500 memory

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    No, I read what it was and laughed that you want to say "See I have more threads!" Very silly...
    What do you mean "read what it was", its the most popular graphics benhmark on the planet lol. Its on steam ffs.

  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    It is a synthetic benchmark that has no real world parallel(in gaming). It is designed to use every thread possible to the max to get the results. That means more threads equals higher score. Yes, you have more threads than I do.
    Well obviously, was trying to compare my 1060 to your 980 (there is a seperate graphics score). I dont know why your ffxiv score is so high compared to others in this thread, you only scored 500 points behind a guy with a 1080ti, something goofy with this benchmark.

  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    It's an MMO... Also, this is DX11 the other is 12. They aren't really comparable.
    The reason i asked if you could run 3d mark is to see if or how much faster your 980 is than my 1060 (for the gpu only part), once we knew that number we could try and figure out why your score is so high in relation to the ryzen rigs in here with much faster GPU's.

    You got 142xx and a guy with a 1800x and a 1080ti score 148xx. I know you like to think the reason for this is your ~600mhz faster cpu speed, but im telling you that doesnt come close to explaining these scores lol.

  11. #51
    FINAL FANTASY XIV: Stormblood Benchmark
    Tested on: 05/06/2017 05:31:36
    Score: 18038
    Average Frame Rate: 122.131
    Performance: Extremely High
    -Easily capable of running the game on the highest settings.
    Loading Times by Scene
    Scene #1 1.032 sec
    Scene #2 2.273 sec
    Scene #3 1.929 sec
    Scene #4 2.650 sec
    Scene #5 4.758 sec
    Scene #6 1.141 sec
    Total Loading Time 13.786 sec

    DAT:s20170605053136.dat

    Screen Size: 1920x1080
    Screen Mode: Full Screen
    DirectX Version: 11
    Graphics Presets: Maximum
    General
    -Wet Surface Effects: Enabled
    -Occlusion Culling: Disabled
    -LOD on Distant Objects: Disabled
    -Real-time Reflections: Maximum
    -Edge Smoothing (Anti-aliasing): FXAA
    -Transparent Lighting Quality: High
    -Grass Quality: High
    -Background Tessellation: High Quality
    -Water Tessellation: High Quality
    -Glare: Standard
    Shadows
    -Self: Display
    -Other NPCs: Display
    Shadow Quality
    -LOD on Shadows: Disabled
    -Shadow Resolution: High - 2048p
    -Shadow Cascading: Best
    -Shadow Softening: Strong
    Texture Detail
    -Texture Filtering: Anisotropic
    -Anisotropic Filtering: x16
    Movement Physics
    -Self: Full
    -Other NPCs: Full
    Effects
    -Limb Darkening: Enabled
    -Radial Blur: Enabled
    -Screen Space Ambient Occlusion: HBAO+: Quality
    -Glare: Normal
    Cinematic Cutscenes
    -Depth of Field: Enabled

    System
    Windows 10 Pro (Registered Trademark) 64-разрядная (6.2, построение 9200) (14393.rs1_release_sec.170427-1353)
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700K CPU @ 4.00GHz
    16332.090MB
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 (VRAM 8119 MB)
    R5 5600X | Thermalright Silver Arrow IB-E Extreme | MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk | 16GB Crucial Ballistix DDR4-3600/CL16 | MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X | Corsair RM650x | Cooler Master HAF X | Logitech G400s | DREVO Excalibur 84 | Kingston HyperX Cloud II | BenQ XL2411T + LG 24MK430H-B

  12. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    No, we really couldn't. One is using DX12 the other is using DX11. They are very different and a benchmark in one doesn't tell you much about your performance in the other. Look, you are running Ryzen. It has been fairly disappointing in gaming applications up to the this point. Oh, and a 1060 isn't as strong as a 980.
    lol you are such a troll (and an uninformed one at that).

    Ryzen isnt as nearly as slow in single threaded apps as you would like to think it is, its on par or faster than haswell. The only difference between our CPU's is clockspeed, mine is 3.8ghz yours is 4.7ghz. Obviously that is going to make up some of the difference here, but looking at the numbers this simply does not add up.

    Also, 1060 is on 980 level, 1070 is a much faster GPU (1070 is actually faster than a gtx titan/980ti).
    https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/...X_1060/11.html


    If you were a nice guy you would set your 4790k to 3.8ghz and run the benchmark again, i guarantee you would still beat me by a large margin, because the benchmark is not playing nice with ryzen.
    Last edited by Fascinate; 2017-06-04 at 10:42 PM.

  13. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Fascinate View Post
    Thats weird, i thought 1060's were closer to 980 performance.

    You-14245, me-11844. My 1060 is at stock settings but not sure i could make up that much margin with an overclock lol.
    1060 is more comparable to 970 in DX11 (in the case of VRAM being a non-issue).

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by Fascinate View Post
    Ryzen isnt as nearly as slow in single threaded apps as you would like to think it is, its on par or faster than haswell. The only difference between our CPU's is clockspeed, mine is 3.8ghz yours is 4.7ghz. Obviously that is going to make up some of the difference here, but looking at the numbers this simply does not add up.
    Yeah, but Haswells dont run on 3.8GHz most of the time.
    R5 5600X | Thermalright Silver Arrow IB-E Extreme | MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk | 16GB Crucial Ballistix DDR4-3600/CL16 | MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X | Corsair RM650x | Cooler Master HAF X | Logitech G400s | DREVO Excalibur 84 | Kingston HyperX Cloud II | BenQ XL2411T + LG 24MK430H-B

  14. #54
    Its not just my CPU, look at the guy a few pages back with a 1800x. That boosts to 4.1ghz out of the box, and vegas score was only slightly behind his with a GPU much much slower (gtx 980 vs gtx 1080ti).

    I know this is the perfect scenario for intel fans to troll, but im telling you there is something goofy with this benchmark lol.

    Also no, a 1060 is almost exactly as powerful as a gtx 980, 1060 beats a gtx 970 in nearly everything ive seen.

    From the title in arstechnica review:
    GTX 1060 is faster than GTX 980, for just a wee bit more cash than AMD's RX 480.

    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016...x-1060-review/
    Last edited by Fascinate; 2017-06-04 at 10:50 PM.

  15. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Fascinate View Post
    Its not just my CPU, look at the guy a few pages back with a 1800x. That boosts to 4.1ghz out of the box, and vegas score was only slightly behind his with a GPU much much slower (gtx 980 vs gtx 1080ti).

    I know this is the perfect scenario for intel fans to troll, but im telling you there is something goofy with this benchmark lol.

    Also no, a 1060 is almost exactly as powerful as a gtx 980, 1060 beats a gtx 970 in nearly everything ive seen.
    4.1GHz boost is only one core. Also look at any tests, 1060 sometimes even loses to a 970, let alone 980. Yes, it has an advantage in DX12, but it's pretty much useless as it's the same FPS for Pascals and lower for Maxwells without any image quality gain.
    R5 5600X | Thermalright Silver Arrow IB-E Extreme | MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk | 16GB Crucial Ballistix DDR4-3600/CL16 | MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X | Corsair RM650x | Cooler Master HAF X | Logitech G400s | DREVO Excalibur 84 | Kingston HyperX Cloud II | BenQ XL2411T + LG 24MK430H-B

  16. #56
    Immortal Stormspark's Avatar
    7+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    Columbus OH
    Posts
    7,953
    FINAL FANTASY XIV: Stormblood Benchmark
    Tested on: 6/4/2017 6:50:50 PM
    Score: 19653
    Average Frame Rate: 139.167
    Performance: Extremely High
    -Easily capable of running the game on the highest settings.
    Loading Times by Scene
    Scene #1 5.407 sec
    Scene #2 4.507 sec
    Scene #3 4.219 sec
    Scene #4 5.872 sec
    Scene #5 10.571 sec
    Scene #6 2.023 sec
    Total Loading Time 32.602 sec

    DAT:s20170604185050.dat

    Screen Size: 1920x1080
    Screen Mode: Borderless Windowed
    DirectX Version: 11
    Graphics Presets: Custom
    General
    -Wet Surface Effects: Enabled
    -Occlusion Culling: Enabled
    -LOD on Distant Objects: Disabled
    -Real-time Reflections: Maximum
    -Edge Smoothing (Anti-aliasing): FXAA
    -Transparent Lighting Quality: High
    -Grass Quality: High
    -Background Tessellation: High Quality
    -Water Tessellation: High Quality
    -Glare: Standard
    Shadows
    -Self: Display
    -Other NPCs: Display
    Shadow Quality
    -LOD on Shadows: Disabled
    -Shadow Resolution: High - 2048p
    -Shadow Cascading: Best
    -Shadow Softening: Strong
    Texture Detail
    -Texture Filtering: Anisotropic
    -Anisotropic Filtering: x16
    Movement Physics
    -Self: Full
    -Other NPCs: Full
    Effects
    -Limb Darkening: Enabled
    -Radial Blur: Enabled
    -Screen Space Ambient Occlusion: HBAO+: Quality
    -Glare: Normal
    Cinematic Cutscenes
    -Depth of Field: Enabled

    System
    Windows 10 Home 64-bit (6.2, Build 9200) (14393.rs1_release_sec.170427-1353)
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700K CPU @ 4.00GHz
    32681.953MB
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti (VRAM 11158 MB)

    This software does not guarantee that your system will run the Windows versions of FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn, FINAL FANTASY XIV: Heavensward, and FINAL FANTASY XIV: Stormblood.

    FINAL FANTASY XIV: Stormblood Official Website http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/
    (C) 2010-2017 SQUARE ENIX CO., LTD. All Rights Reserved.

    Share Results
    Type 1
    http://sqex.to/ffxiv_bench_na #FFXIV Score: 19653 1920x1080 Custom DX11 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700K CPU @ 4.00GHz NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
    Type 2
    http://sqex.to/ffxiv_bench_na #FFXIV Score: 19653 1920x1080 Custom DirectX11 Borderless Windowed NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
    Type 3
    http://sqex.to/ffxiv_bench_na #FFXIV 1920x1080 Custom DirectX11 Score: 19653 Extremely High
    Type 4
    http://sqex.to/ffxiv_bench_na #FFXIV 1920x1080 Custom DirectX11 Borderless Windowed Score: 19653
    Full Results
    FINAL FANTASY XIV: Stormblood Benchmark
    Score: 19653 Extremely High
    1920x1080 Custom DirectX11 Borderless Windowed
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700K CPU @ 4.00GHz
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
    http://sqex.to/ffxiv_bench_na #FFXIV

  17. #57
    lmao look at that, a 6700k with a 1080ti scores 19653, and the ryzen systems scores 14,8xx with same GPU.

    Ya, obviously that is ALL down to ryzen, good joke guys

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderball View Post
    4.1GHz boost is only one core. Also look at any tests, 1060 sometimes even loses to a 970, let alone 980. Yes, it has an advantage in DX12, but it's pretty much useless as it's the same FPS for Pascals and lower for Maxwells without any image quality gain.
    Eh no, 1060 is on par or faster than a 980. Please look closer at these scores, ryzen being ~600mhz slower (remember ryzen is on par or slightly faster than haswell in IPC) is not making up for the score differences in this benchmark.

  18. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Fascinate View Post
    Eh no, 1060 is on par or faster than a 980. Please look closer at these scores, ryzen being ~600mhz slower (remember ryzen is on par or slightly faster than haswell in IPC) is not making up for the score differences in this benchmark.
    I dont care what AMD has to say, Ryzen is weak for gaming, I've said it before and here is your proof, another one. But yeah, it's not the most hardware intensive benchmark, both my GPU and CPU were sitting around 75% load during the benchmark.
    R5 5600X | Thermalright Silver Arrow IB-E Extreme | MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk | 16GB Crucial Ballistix DDR4-3600/CL16 | MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X | Corsair RM650x | Cooler Master HAF X | Logitech G400s | DREVO Excalibur 84 | Kingston HyperX Cloud II | BenQ XL2411T + LG 24MK430H-B

  19. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderball View Post
    I dont care what AMD has to say, Ryzen is weak for gaming, I've said it before and here is your proof, another one. But yeah, it's not the most hardware intensive benchmark, both my GPU and CPU were sitting around 75% load during the benchmark.
    lol proof. if thats the case why does my amd system smoke my 2500k machine in overwatch and other games?

    Obviously ryzen is going to be somewhat slower in older games like this, its just funny to me you guys dont see the problem with the scores in this particular benchmark. There is nearly a 5000 point difference between one guy with a ryzen 1800x and another guy with a 6700k (same GPU 1080ti), and you will actually believe that is completely down to the CPU and not an issue with the benchmark lol

    One way to settle this for certain is if vegas 82 set his 4790k to 3.8ghz and reran the benchmark. That fully levels the playing field on the CPU side of things, and my 1060 is on par with a 980 in terms of GPU power. I bet you any amount of money his system would still score much higher, that would point to a problem with how the benchmark is recognizing ryzen CPU's. Notice how i said recognizing not utilizing, because core count would be irrelevant if he set his cpu to 3.8ghz, that is core per core parity.

    Edit: As an aside, why are you guys with 1080ti's running 1080p monitors? O.o
    Last edited by Fascinate; 2017-06-04 at 11:17 PM.

  20. #60
    Fluffy Kitten Remilia's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Avatar: Momoco
    Posts
    15,160
    This benchmark hammers the CPU more than Heavennsward. That said @Fascinate, your score isn't that far off from this benchmark. It's using a 7700k. There's more likelihood the higher powered GPU may incur a penalty but I wouldn't really know without more data with usage.
    Do note, if they have vsync or other type of stuff on in the graphics (not benchmark) control panel, it will hugely affect score. It was the case in HW benchmark, no doubt it will be a problem here.

    http://www.4gamer.net/games/360/G036007/20170505001/
    http://www.4gamer.net/specials/4g_be...gulation.shtml their test set up, all software stuff.
    Last edited by Remilia; 2017-06-04 at 11:25 PM.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •