1. #5741
    Quote Originally Posted by kaelleria View Post
    It's worth it in a group... Not worth it solo, IMO.
    This is true lol. But I dont have a friends list and am not in the mood to create one lol. I have had several grps in GM2 from time to time but not as often as I would like

  2. #5742
    Quote Originally Posted by kaelleria View Post
    Because we're all masochists.

    Considering some analysts think physical sales may basically disappear by 2022, I don't think physical means jack shit these days.
    They still matter especially for consoles but the balance point is swinging towards digital and will continue to do so. It is like the PC digital did not eat physical sales quickly but over time it did eat it up as the convenience became more apparent.

  3. #5743
    Hey look here come the retractions!

  4. #5744
    Quote Originally Posted by szechuan View Post
    I'm not.

    Physical sales are on a downward trend yet the Majority of Console Gamers are Still Buying Physical.

    Yet the majority of Console Gamers seem to still prefer Physical Games.
    You clearly didn't read any of the links, and continue to argue in bad faith. The links literally show that physical sales are no longer in the majority.

  5. #5745
    Quote Originally Posted by Krastyn View Post
    The links literally show that physical sales are no longer in the majority.
    Majority of the Console Market is still Physical.

    UK video games market is now 80% digital
    However, 75% of AAA game sales are physical

    https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articl...ercent-digital
    Last edited by szechuan; 2019-03-05 at 08:06 PM. Reason: clarification
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  6. #5746
    I am plenty shocked that physical sales are still even a thing. Last time I bought physical box for a game was WoTLK.

  7. #5747
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidax View Post
    I am plenty shocked that physical sales are still even a thing. Last time I bought physical box for a game was WoTLK.
    Same here lol
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  8. #5748
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidax View Post
    I am plenty shocked that physical sales are still even a thing. Last time I bought physical box for a game was WoTLK.
    For PC I am not sure they are still a thing any more percentage wise. Consoles though are still slanted a bit towards physical media although that pendulum is swinging just like it did for PC games. I think the whole renting games for your console keeps it still somewhat viable at least near term but over time I expect to see more and more push to digital like we saw on the PC.

  9. #5749
    I have been playing on PS4 since release, I love the game it's great the game play is fun and engaging the Javelins all feel unique and different they fell like what they are designed to be the Colossus feels like a big bulky tank, the Interceptor feels like a light agile assasin, the Ranger feels like what good all around balanced class plays like, and the storm feels like a mage. I love Looter games, but there just isn't enough to do at max level which I just got to on Sunday. There needs to be more incentive to play the game it needs either a new Javelin, a Raid or like 10 more Strongholds to hold my attention at this point, The biggest issue I am having right now that i know is RNG is I keep getting the exact same Masterwork pieced over and over again. I could honestly get over all of these things pretty easily, but the other big problem is the Game breaking bugs that still exist. We were playing a Stronghold last night and the boss had like 10% HP left when the entire squads game crashed and we had to restart the encounter completely and to a specific process to reset the boss, which someone in the squad knew exactly to do to fix it which should not be a thing. We were talking last night that we thing the game was Rushed out to try and compete with the Division 2, it seems like an unfinished game at this point, like we are missing 2-4 Javelins, like 5+ Strongholds and some sort of Raid or PVP content. At this point I think Ill put this down when the Division comes out and come back to it in 6 months or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaid View Post
    For PC I am not sure they are still a thing any more percentage wise. Consoles though are still slanted a bit towards physical media although that pendulum is swinging just like it did for PC games. I think the whole renting games for your console keeps it still somewhat viable at least near term but over time I expect to see more and more push to digital like we saw on the PC.
    I have not bought a physical copy of a game for PS4 since I bought Evolve like 3 years ago lol.

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  11. #5751
    Quote Originally Posted by kaid View Post
    For PC I am not sure they are still a thing any more percentage wise. Consoles though are still slanted a bit towards physical media although that pendulum is swinging just like it did for PC games. I think the whole renting games for your console keeps it still somewhat viable at least near term but over time I expect to see more and more push to digital like we saw on the PC.
    For consoles the problem is most people don't shop around and things like the Playstation store are freaking EXPENSIVE. Digital is probably ahead for PC based on the fact that you can get digital for 25%+ off off the bat for most games.

    I'm not saying you can't get PS4/Xbone games cheaper in digital, just that PC gamers are most used to shopping around for their digital goods.

  12. #5752
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidax View Post
    Also a Spoiler!

  13. #5753
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidax View Post
    Ahah, thanks for the laugh

  14. #5754
    Quote Originally Posted by Myobi View Post
    It’s not that you shouldn’t trust anything, but you certainly should always take it with a pinch of salt, the articles use words such as “reportedly” and “allegedly” for a reason, most of them aren’t even really about the bricking, but about the random shut downs that may or may not lead to the console bricking (… and those ain’t just being posted on reddit), shit, the one I’ve read that states that ONE single person had reported that his console got bricked, just got recently updated, it turns out that it wasn’t exactly bricked at all, he just had to run the console on safe mode and “rebuild the database”, which to be fair, not something that the common user will know how to do or something that a video game should be doing to your console, assuming it is due the game.
    It's definitely a huge negative about the game, but it's not the only game to do it, at least one other game has caused total console shutdown and possible issues leading to safe mode booting.

    Needs to be fixed regardless, no game should be causing console shutdown (Div 2 beta was doing this with memory leaks too IIRC)

  15. #5755
    Quote Originally Posted by Dhrizzle View Post
    Also a Spoiler!
    Minor spoiler, i would say that Owen betrays you, steals the javelin of Dawn and joins the Dominion

    Now that's a spoiler!!
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  16. #5756
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidax View Post
    I am plenty shocked that physical sales are still even a thing. Last time I bought physical box for a game was WoTLK.
    Same. The only physical games I buy are PS4 / Switch games. Even then I've bought some digital on those platforms. PC is exclusively digital for me. They have been since the SWTOR CE.

  17. #5757
    Quote Originally Posted by D3athsting View Post
    Minor spoiler, i would say that Owen betrays you, steals the javelin of Dawn and joins the Dominion

    Now that's a spoiler!!
    that twatwaffle gets what he deserves when he gets his eyes burned blind

  18. #5758
    Quote Originally Posted by Cairhiin View Post
    Pfft Pfft, you forgot Sekiro! And for the strategy crowd Tropico 6 (not my kinda thing).
    seems like I did. Thought Sekiro was still a couple of months away.

  19. #5759
    Quote Originally Posted by szechuan View Post
    Majority is still Physical.
    Do you understand how numbers work? You glaze over the fact that the video game market is 80% digital. The money is in digital.

    Yes, 75% of AAA titles in Europe were physical 2018, compared with 80% in 2017. It's a trend that is going to continue. It also comes down platform. You've mentioned that console gamers prefer physical copies (studies showing primarily for resale of games), PC gamers prefer digital.

    The trending is there, in every article you have listed. Physical sales shouldn't be ignored, but they should definitely not be the focus.

  20. #5760
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidax View Post
    I am plenty shocked that physical sales are still even a thing. Last time I bought physical box for a game was WoTLK.
    I have no preference either way really, but have bought more digital lately than physical, just because it's easier and a little cheaper (no tax added to the purchase). For games I REALLY want/ enjoy I'll get the physical collectors edition, otherwise I couldn't care less which version I get, but will likely go digital.

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