1. #7401
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurasu View Post
    I hope they finish DA4 before EA justifiably closes them.
    At the rate this is going, I wouldn't expect that to even be close to what fans of the series would want out of a sequel.

  2. #7402
    Quote Originally Posted by dope_danny View Post
    Hey man they almost have all the features of Destinys ps3 closed beta test from 2013, thats the power of bioware magic at work!
    It's nothing but a little bioware - MAGIC!

    Quote Originally Posted by Baconeggcheese View Post
    Was definitely a weird thing to say.
    SNIP....
    Weird is putting it lightly. Learning biowares current plans for the game, what is postponed and then reading that statement, it makes me question biowares current mental state.
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  3. #7403
    Quote Originally Posted by americandavey View Post
    When PR people can never say things right. They should never said "early access" because of the stigma with Steam of that word. I get they meant the days Preorders and Premier users got the game early before retail launch. Still the better word would been "Launch" since early Launch didnt get a patch till retail launch.
    They literally said Early Access Launch. They called the early launch period Early Access (because you know you accessed it early). As usually people are taking to extremes certain words just to give a reason to hate or rage or whatever you want to call those negative emotions.
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  4. #7404
    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    They literally said Early Access Launch. They called the early launch period Early Access (because you know you accessed it early). As usually people are taking to extremes certain words just to give a reason to hate or rage or whatever you want to call those negative emotions.
    No. Its because it released in the state of an "Early Access" game.

    You know, half finished, but full price, devs taking your money and promising updates, which may come, eventually, 3 years down the line.

    Like 7 Days To Die. That's almost out of beta alpha now.

  5. #7405
    Quote Originally Posted by Shinzai View Post
    No. Its because it released in the state of an "Early Access" game. You know, half finished, but full price, devs taking your money and promising updates, which may come, eventually, 3 years down the line. Like 7 Days To Die. That's almost out of beta alpha now.
    So you are claiming that people wouldn't be outraged if they didn't use the same label as all of their marketing material? If they said Early launch no one would be upset at all. Gotcha.
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  6. #7406
    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    So you are claiming that people wouldn't be outraged if they didn't use the same label as all of their marketing material? If they said Early launch no one would be upset at all. Gotcha.
    A successful game will say "It's been 9 weeks since launch, and things are going great"

    Referencing the 1 week early access period is a PR tactic to justify the lack of progress they have on the game, and the laundry list of debilitating bugs and issues.

  7. #7407
    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    So you are claiming that people wouldn't be outraged if they didn't use the same label as all of their marketing material? If they said Early launch no one would be upset at all. Gotcha.
    No, I think you're missing the point.

    Because it was referred to as an "Early Access Launch", they've disparaged themselves and left themselves open to further criticism. As americandavey said and I clarified, it's a connotation associated with half finished, undercooked games with a long legacy of issues and bad releases, for games no where near ready for public retail.

    Yet, still games are released that way and Anthem lends itself to the associated stigma quite aptly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by americandavey View Post
    When PR people can never say things right.
    Annoying PR dude here, these aren't PR folks and PR likely had nothing to do with this post. This is firmly community/producer territory, and while we work with those cats frequently they're still different disciplines.

    Quote Originally Posted by americandavey View Post
    They should never said "early access" because of the stigma with Steam of that word.
    Aside from that, the community has regularly memed (to spite BioWare trying to make the game "unmemeable") that the game is still in early access/beta. If CM's were actually reading discussions passing along info, and if that info was actually read by management, they'd have known this.


    Quote Originally Posted by Shinzai View Post
    Its in EA's best interests to finally step in, get Dragon Age 4 done right with a united Bioware, or just dissolve the company if they fail to perform again, even with Casey back on board.
    I can't believe I'm saying this, but I think it's about time for EA to take a heavy hand in managing BW. Between ME:A and now this, it seems pretty obvious the "BioWare Magic" is gone and they need some help running their studio.

    And hell, the best parts of Anthem pretty much, the visuals and flight, were a result of the EA CEO playing an early demo (like 4-5 years into development...) and saying it was garbage.

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    An interesting article and not too boring.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinzai View Post
    Because it was referred to as an "Early Access Launch", they've disparaged themselves and left themselves open to further criticism. As americandavey said and I clarified, it's a connotation associated with half finished, undercooked games with a long legacy of issues and bad releases, for games no where near ready for public retail.
    They have literally been referring to it as an early access launch since they originally released the launch dates. Why is it now a problem because they used the same terms in a statement about the game? You and others are looking for reasons to hate so you cling to Early Access and blind yourself to everything else and the context of how it EAL has been used with Anthem since the start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyvax View Post
    A successful game will say "It's been 9 weeks since launch, and things are going great" Referencing the 1 week early access period is a PR tactic to justify the lack of progress they have on the game, and the laundry list of debilitating bugs and issues.
    They literally never said that all of the problems to do with the game is because of the early access launch. This is exactly the kinda of irrational outrage I was speaking of with my original comment. Whats next being outraged they used the world release when their product clearly is a alpha/beta state and not a true game release?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    They have literally been referring to it as an early access launch since they originally released the launch dates. Why is it now a problem because they used the same terms in a statement about the game? You and others are looking for reasons to hate so you cling to Early Access and blind yourself to everything else and the context of how it EAL has been used with Anthem since the start.

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    They literally never said that all of the problems to do with the game is because of the early access launch. This is exactly the kinda of irrational outrage I was speaking of with my original comment. Whats next being outraged they used the world release when their product clearly is a alpha/beta state and not a true game release?
    I don't even know what your point is or what you're trying to defend, tbh.

  12. #7412
    Game is STILL in early Access from the looks of things.
    READ and be less Ignorant.

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    Welp, I think it's safe to assume it's GG for Bioware, considering they said DA4 will be out in like 3-4 years.
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  14. #7414
    Quote Originally Posted by Greyvax View Post
    A successful game will say "It's been 9 weeks since launch, and things are going great"

    Referencing the 1 week early access period is a PR tactic to justify the lack of progress they have on the game, and the laundry list of debilitating bugs and issues.
    You have to be pretty much an idiot to read from "It's been 10 weeks since our early access launch" that they actually say the game is still in early access.
    If they'd said "It's been 9 weeks since launch" then the same idiots would say "Daw Bioware i'm playing since 10 weeks ago, don't you even know when you launched your stupid game".
    As it is right now, you can't win with the reddit crowd, everything not outright hating the game is downvoted there and conspiracy theories are galore.
    I have some problem with Anthem myself but that level of hate and trolling there is ridiculous. It would be wise from Bioware just to ignore them, i just read them for the luls.
    There surely are other forums availible.

  15. #7415
    Quote Originally Posted by Shinzai View Post
    I don't even know what your point is or what you're trying to defend, tbh.
    So you've replied multiple times with no idea what you are replying to?

    My point is it is dumb and irrational to attack bioware over using the term "early access launch" when that is what they have always referred to that period as. They didn't suddenly change it in order to spin the state of the game to something more acceptable. The state of the game is irrelevant to them using those wording they always have used.

    Go look up the promotional material. At no point have they claimed their game is an early access game. That is what is irrational and dumb to attack them over. There are plenty of valid things to be upset about that people don't have to be stupid about it.
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  16. #7416
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I can't believe I'm saying this, but I think it's about time for EA to take a heavy hand in managing BW. Between ME:A and now this, it seems pretty obvious the "BioWare Magic" is gone and they need some help running their studio..
    I agree EA need to get people in there to manage the studio a lot better. After of all the moaning of people over years wanting Publishers/Corporations not to hinder game Developing, EA did that with Anthem and it has shown some studios need someone looking over their shoulders at all times. I dont think "Bioware magic" is gone, its the people that never truly experience that "magic" happening to use that phrase.

    True Bioware magic was Lucasarts telling Bioware their first version of KOTOR sucked and the studio redid it to the cult classic that it is today.

  17. #7417
    People clamoring for EA to save the game, deary me. Give it the Fifa/Madden sport title treatment or maybe the Star wars battlefield treatment, that'll fix it. Card packs for skills, cant wait.

    Like Destiny 2 some games are born out of greed and inept leadership and are just a write off. Dont lose anymore resources over it (time). Shes a sunk cost.
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    This game was marketed as a complete product and once again a game is released as an incomplete, broken mess that will take months or possibly a year to fix. Now with the roadmap indefinitely cancelled(most likely because of a downed FIOS line amirite?), they're going to have a VERY VERY angry fanbase on their hands because right now there is not enough content to sustain the game for a month let alone several while the game is fixed and put back together.

    Why is this acceptable? Why does this happen over and over again? Because only the vocal minority pipes up and says things. They are the ones that vote with their wallets and have stopped buying into this hot garbage. The majority of people don't care. The sales numbers for this game were probably good enough I am assuming because it has Bioware's name slapped on to it. Even with all the red flags associated with this game before it came out.





    Fucking amazing Bioware. Well done. Feels good not buying this trash game. Have fun with Visceral and Bullfrog on the chopping block. Don't save this game. Let it die. Have the fucking decency to give everyone who bought it a refund.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myobi View Post
    Fucking hell....





    As in, 10 weeks since the game was released for the those who pre-ordered the fucking thing or whatever, allowing you to play 1 week early.
    That sentence makes absolutely no sense. 10 weeks since release but you get to play one week early. Another huge issue with this game is that dumbass chart.

  20. #7420
    Quote Originally Posted by Yriel View Post
    You have to be pretty much an idiot to read from "It's been 10 weeks since our early access launch" that they actually say the game is still in early access.
    I'm pretty excited for 2025 when the game leaves "early access" and is released to the general public.

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