"Man is his own star. His acts are his angels, good or ill, While his fatal shadows walk silently beside him."-Rhyme of the Primeval Paradine AFC 54
You know a community is bad when moderators lock a thread because "...this isnt the place to talk about it either seeing as it will get trolled..."
No, I think you're missing the point.
Because it was referred to as an "Early Access Launch", they've disparaged themselves and left themselves open to further criticism. As americandavey said and I clarified, it's a connotation associated with half finished, undercooked games with a long legacy of issues and bad releases, for games no where near ready for public retail.
Yet, still games are released that way and Anthem lends itself to the associated stigma quite aptly.
Annoying PR dude here, these aren't PR folks and PR likely had nothing to do with this post. This is firmly community/producer territory, and while we work with those cats frequently they're still different disciplines.
Aside from that, the community has regularly memed (to spite BioWare trying to make the game "unmemeable") that the game is still in early access/beta. If CM's were actually reading discussions passing along info, and if that info was actually read by management, they'd have known this.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I think it's about time for EA to take a heavy hand in managing BW. Between ME:A and now this, it seems pretty obvious the "BioWare Magic" is gone and they need some help running their studio.
And hell, the best parts of Anthem pretty much, the visuals and flight, were a result of the EA CEO playing an early demo (like 4-5 years into development...) and saying it was garbage.
An interesting article and not too boring.
Forbes article
They have literally been referring to it as an early access launch since they originally released the launch dates. Why is it now a problem because they used the same terms in a statement about the game? You and others are looking for reasons to hate so you cling to Early Access and blind yourself to everything else and the context of how it EAL has been used with Anthem since the start.
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They literally never said that all of the problems to do with the game is because of the early access launch. This is exactly the kinda of irrational outrage I was speaking of with my original comment. Whats next being outraged they used the world release when their product clearly is a alpha/beta state and not a true game release?
"Man is his own star. His acts are his angels, good or ill, While his fatal shadows walk silently beside him."-Rhyme of the Primeval Paradine AFC 54
You know a community is bad when moderators lock a thread because "...this isnt the place to talk about it either seeing as it will get trolled..."
Game is STILL in early Access from the looks of things.
READ and be less Ignorant.
Welp, I think it's safe to assume it's GG for Bioware, considering they said DA4 will be out in like 3-4 years.
Sometimes, the light of the moon is a key to other spaces. I've found a place where, for a night or two, the streets curve in unfamiliar ways. If I walk here, I might find insight, or I might be touched by madness.
You have to be pretty much an idiot to read from "It's been 10 weeks since our early access launch" that they actually say the game is still in early access.
If they'd said "It's been 9 weeks since launch" then the same idiots would say "Daw Bioware i'm playing since 10 weeks ago, don't you even know when you launched your stupid game".
As it is right now, you can't win with the reddit crowd, everything not outright hating the game is downvoted there and conspiracy theories are galore.
I have some problem with Anthem myself but that level of hate and trolling there is ridiculous. It would be wise from Bioware just to ignore them, i just read them for the luls.
There surely are other forums availible.
So you've replied multiple times with no idea what you are replying to?
My point is it is dumb and irrational to attack bioware over using the term "early access launch" when that is what they have always referred to that period as. They didn't suddenly change it in order to spin the state of the game to something more acceptable. The state of the game is irrelevant to them using those wording they always have used.
Go look up the promotional material. At no point have they claimed their game is an early access game. That is what is irrational and dumb to attack them over. There are plenty of valid things to be upset about that people don't have to be stupid about it.
"Man is his own star. His acts are his angels, good or ill, While his fatal shadows walk silently beside him."-Rhyme of the Primeval Paradine AFC 54
You know a community is bad when moderators lock a thread because "...this isnt the place to talk about it either seeing as it will get trolled..."
I agree EA need to get people in there to manage the studio a lot better. After of all the moaning of people over years wanting Publishers/Corporations not to hinder game Developing, EA did that with Anthem and it has shown some studios need someone looking over their shoulders at all times. I dont think "Bioware magic" is gone, its the people that never truly experience that "magic" happening to use that phrase.
True Bioware magic was Lucasarts telling Bioware their first version of KOTOR sucked and the studio redid it to the cult classic that it is today.
People clamoring for EA to save the game, deary me. Give it the Fifa/Madden sport title treatment or maybe the Star wars battlefield treatment, that'll fix it. Card packs for skills, cant wait.
Like Destiny 2 some games are born out of greed and inept leadership and are just a write off. Dont lose anymore resources over it (time). Shes a sunk cost.
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This game was marketed as a complete product and once again a game is released as an incomplete, broken mess that will take months or possibly a year to fix. Now with the roadmap indefinitely cancelled(most likely because of a downed FIOS line amirite?), they're going to have a VERY VERY angry fanbase on their hands because right now there is not enough content to sustain the game for a month let alone several while the game is fixed and put back together.
Why is this acceptable? Why does this happen over and over again? Because only the vocal minority pipes up and says things. They are the ones that vote with their wallets and have stopped buying into this hot garbage. The majority of people don't care. The sales numbers for this game were probably good enough I am assuming because it has Bioware's name slapped on to it. Even with all the red flags associated with this game before it came out.
Fucking amazing Bioware. Well done. Feels good not buying this trash game. Have fun with Visceral and Bullfrog on the chopping block. Don't save this game. Let it die. Have the fucking decency to give everyone who bought it a refund.
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It would be like George Lucas getting in front of audiences watching Star wars : A New Hope for the first time in Cinemas and hes like "Wait! this isnt the final version, wait until I awkwardly edit in more aliens at the canteen!!! This is just a early showing cause I love you so much <3"
pre-order empire strikes back here*
There is realy one good thing they could do in this case.
Return the money to people who purchased this game, as if they call it early -- well its false advertising.
Here is a Eu law if anyone wants to read:
https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/law-to...g-directive_en
Here is one part for example:
Article 6
Misleading actions
1. A commercial practice shall be regarded as misleading if it contains false information and is therefore untruthful or in any way, including overall presentation, deceives or is likely to deceive the average consumer, even if the information is factually correct, in relation to one or more of the following elements, and in either case causes or is likely to cause him to take a transactional decision that he would not have taken otherwise:
(a)
the existence or nature of the product;
(b)
the main characteristics of the product, such as its availability, benefits, risks, execution, composition, accessories, after-sale customer assistance and complaint handling, method and date of manufacture or provision, delivery, fitness for purpose, usage, quantity, specification, geographical or commercial origin or the results to be expected from its use, or the results and material features of tests or checks carried out on the product;
(c)
the extent of the trader's commitments, the motives for the commercial practice and the nature of the sales process, any statement or symbol in relation to direct or indirect sponsorship or approval of the trader or the product;
(d)
the price or the manner in which the price is calculated, or the existence of a specific price advantage;
(e)
the need for a service, part, replacement or repair;
(f)
the nature, attributes and rights of the trader or his agent, such as his identity and assets, his qualifications, status, approval, affiliation or connection and ownership of industrial, commercial or intellectual property rights or his awards and distinctions;
(g)
the consumer's rights, including the right to replacement or reimbursement under Directive 1999/44/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council of 25 May 1999 on certain aspects of the sale of consumer goods and associated guarantees (8), or the risks he may face.
2. A commercial practice shall also be regarded as misleading if, in its factual context, taking account of all its features and circumstances, it causes or is likely to cause the average consumer to take a transactional decision that he would not have taken otherwise, and it involves:
(a)
any marketing of a product, including comparative advertising, which creates confusion with any products, trade marks, trade names or other distinguishing marks of a competitor;
(b)
non-compliance by the trader with commitments contained in codes of conduct by which the trader has undertaken to be bound, where:
(i)
the commitment is not aspirational but is firm and is capable of being verified,
and
(ii)
the trader indicates in a commercial practice that he is bound by the code.
Well i actually still have fun playing the game. Thats what i meant, you don't own the game, you don't play it but still somehow hate it so much that you want it to close down. Why?
Although in the end, i really wouldn't mind Bioware dying, ME:A and DA:I were trash, i doubt the next DA will be any good. I would be sad for anthem, though.