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    Quote Originally Posted by Directionalk9 View Post
    I also think sub-races don’t fit with certain expac themes, we are most likely fighting Void next, probably not the best time to add them. If say an expansion (my dream) was about faction conflict, that would be a better time.
    I don't think faction conflict will ever be at the absolute center. They sort of tried that with Cataclysm, but it failed because it became too predictable. One village lost on one side, another at the other side. Magni turned to stone and Cairne dead. Since both factions are playable and they want to avoid the stigma of faction bias it will have to be balanced. Which takes away the excitement.

    They also tried cold war like stuff with MoP, but the morale ended up being, don't ever bring war to places where there isn't any.

    Faction war is way too messy to be at the center stage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jokubas View Post
    The funny thing is, I kinda hope there will be some way to make a subrace through the barbershop. Maybe not literally (a free token of some kind if a transition becomes a cash shop thing would be another way), but it would really suck for people who have been roleplaying highborne or Wildhammer dwarves since Cataclysm and now get told they have to start over, especially since that wasn't an entirely unreasonable way to play.

    Or they could include a free race change with the expansion instead of a level boost this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jokubas View Post
    Personally, I consider Hearthstone to be "broad strokes" canon, and something tells me Blizzard does too even if they won't say it. Hearthstone definitely takes a much more comedic take on things and obviously you can't just assume any specifics, but it's also been a place where they can justify fleshing out things here and there that they don't have time for in World of Warcraft. For instance, considering Gadgetzan's official place in lore, Hearthstone seems to much better represent the idea than the useless, relatively tiny place it is in-game.
    True, I consider it at least exaggerated canon myself. Especially after the League of Explorers ended up all showing up in Legion. Yes, even the Murloc.

    True, but to be fair, a Void expansion could easily have yet another "this is such a big threat that everyone needs to unite" theme that could easily be used to justify bringing in races from around the world that haven't been too relevant.
    TBH I don't think they will do a "we all need to unite" theme again. Blizz got enough flak for how awkwardly the whole faction war thing was handled, and calls for them to give up on the warfare and just unite the faction continue. My guess is they go to one of two extremes next expansion. Either full faction merger, or they go full faction war a'la MoP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    Good point. Though honestly it might be an easier fix than Naga legs while riding a Goblin Trike.

    Blizz could model the shell seperately from the actual character model. So the shell sits over the armor, and then the cloak goes over the shell.

    Since hunch-back cloaks are nothing new to Blizz.


    naga are doable. tortollan are doable, though i'd prefer that elephant race from the art contest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    https://new3.fjcdn.com/pictures/Naga_a30267_1769275.jpg[/img]

    naga are doable. tortollan are doable, though i'd prefer that elephant race from the art contest.
    Elephant Race? You mean Faceless Ones? Or did I miss something?

    Also my issue with that Naga fix is it basically requires them to code special mount animations for every possible ground mount in the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post

    TBH I don't think they will do a "we all need to unite" theme again. Blizz got enough flak for how awkwardly the whole faction war thing was handled, and calls for them to give up on the warfare and just unite the faction continue. My guess is they go to one of two extremes next expansion. Either full faction merger, or they go full faction war a'la MoP.
    Or they do away with factions altogether. That is mostly the same as faction merger but instead everyone liking each other it is everyone hating each other.

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    1039 pages and all we really know is kultiras armour set + trolls stuff :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    Elephant Race? You mean Faceless Ones? Or did I miss something?

    Also my issue with that Naga fix is it basically requires them to code special mount animations for every possible ground mount in the game.


    found it. also, they have to go special mount animations anyway, right? it's usually just much more slight adjustments. but that's not a big deal imo, just part of having a new race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/content_entry_media/CPEXRDAHBRUT1497281855342.jpg[/img]

    found it. also, they have to go special mount animations anyway, right? it's usually just much more slight adjustments. but that's not a big deal imo, just part of having a new race.
    Okay that's really neat. We can combine that with some kind of a Japanese race and stick them south of Pandaria. Good job, everyone, we gave Blizz their next "totally new land" expansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post

    naga are doable. tortollan are doable, though i'd prefer that elephant race from the art contest.
    Link plis? I love elephants!

    Edit: I love that elephant concept, but at the same time it's going to suck as much as Pandaren once you put plate on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tripconn View Post
    1039 pages and all we really know is kultiras armour set + trolls stuff :/
    We don't know it related to 8.0, we assume it is. Could be the devs baiting us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadochi View Post
    We don't know it related to 8.0, we assume it is. Could be the devs baiting us.
    Possible but highly improbable.

    We barked up that tree with the Iron Horde Reflection Texture in 5.4 and were wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/content_entry_media/CPEXRDAHBRUT1497281855342.jpg

    found it. also, they have to go special mount animations anyway, right? it's usually just much more slight adjustments. but that's not a big deal imo, just part of having a new race.
    Nope, you cant do that! The armor is built into the model, never gonna happen 100% NOPE LOL

    /s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    Okay that's really neat. We can combine that with some kind of a Japanese race and stick them south of Pandaria. Good job, everyone, we gave Blizz their next "totally new land" expansion.
    Quote Originally Posted by zlygork View Post
    Link plis? I love elephants!

    Edit: I love that elephant concept, but at the same time it's going to suck as much as Pandaren once you put plate on it.


    i still want this beautiful bastard. but i doubt it'll ever happen, or even be seen in game.

    also, the pachari could be from a land based off india, to the west of kalimdor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tripconn View Post
    1039 pages and all we really know is kultiras armour set + trolls stuff :/
    And the ghost horse.

    Now imagine what a legit leak would do top the page count.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    Okay that's really neat. We can combine that with some kind of a Japanese race and stick them south of Pandaria. Good job, everyone, we gave Blizz their next "totally new land" expansion.
    I can see the future. Millions will complain about weeabo continent. The expansion will have amazing lore, beautiful zones (as much as possible with this engine), fun combat and a whole bunch of content.
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    Void high elves are an extremely stupid idea. Probably one of the stupidest ideas ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaskaleh View Post
    Void high elves are an extremely stupid idea. Probably one of the stupidest ideas ever.
    Excellent argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balager View Post
    And the ghost horse.

    Now imagine what a legit leak would do top the page count.
    I'm honestly amazed how many leaks are miles off of the generally-accepted probable expansion. Usually at this time we start to see leaks coalesce around a specific concept. In Legion's case it coalesced around a south seas theme (ironic, huh?), in WoD's case things initially were very Legion-heavy (I'm sensing a trend now) before shifting to an Outland revamp and finally to the AU after we got a credible leak, in MoP's case things coalesced around South Seas (again).

    Right now we're still getting all kinds of shenanigans. From Ka'resh, to Sylvanas turning evil, to Azshara, to Black Empire stuff. Ironically, most of the theories seem to ignore the Kul'tiras armor entirely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post

    i still want this beautiful bastard. but i doubt it'll ever happen, or even be seen in game.

    also, the pachari could be from a land based off india, to the west of kalimdor.
    Wasn't this half-draenei made by the guy that blizzard hired? the one that made the new troggs and yetis? If so, I wouldn't be surprised to see these guys around in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zlygork View Post
    Wasn't this half-draenei made by the guy that blizzard hired? the one that made the new troggs and yetis? If so, I wouldn't be surprised to see these guys around in the future.
    If we ever return to AU Draenor I guarantee it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    I'm honestly amazed how many leaks are miles off of the generally-accepted probable expansion. Usually at this time we start to see leaks coalesce around a specific concept. In Legion's case it coalesced around a south seas theme (ironic, huh?), in WoD's case things initially were very Legion-heavy (I'm sensing a trend now) before shifting to an Outland revamp and finally to the AU after we got a credible leak, in MoP's case things coalesced around South Seas (again).

    Right now we're still getting all kinds of shenanigans. From Ka'resh, to Sylvanas turning evil, to Azshara, to Black Empire stuff. Ironically, most of the theories seem to ignore the Kul'tiras armor entirely.
    Well I posted two leaks that didn't ignore the Kul'Tiras armor set. Of course since they were made by me they were faker than Korean models. Sadly. But it will be fun to see if igot anything right.

    By the way I remembered plenty of Legion leaks for Legion. I just didnt like it cause I didn't think the Legion is interesting enough to carry its own expansion. And considering the leveling of Legion was all over the place with Vrykul, Emerald Nightmare and Naga, I was sort of correct.

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