1. #19921
    I can see it now.
    Ion gets up on the stage. He says nothing.
    Suddenly, a image of Metzen appears.
    It says but three words.


    "Playable Command Table"

    Ion then reveals that he was really a Command Table this whole time.

  2. #19922
    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    Good eye picking that up, rechecked and found out that I am actually entirely wrong on that first answer.
    Nightborne, Highmountain Tauren, Void Elf and Lightforged Draenei were all added in 7.3. Welp, that shakes things up a bit!
    Wooo I contributed something! Also I just got on my rogue and confirmed what an earlier poster wrote, that using glyph of disguise and pickpocketing a nightborne does NOT change your tooltip race to nightborne, while pickpocketing a vrykul does change your tooltip race to vrykul.

    Edit: the only hostile highmountain tauren I could remember were the feltotem ones. I tried pickpocketing them and my tooltip race did not change. If anyone remembers a hostile, non-fel highmountain tauren I could test this on please let me know.
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  3. #19923
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    Now I just want void ghost tortollan pirates. And giant pirate parrot mounts.

  4. #19924
    Quote Originally Posted by Chemical Ellis View Post
    I read the Red Shirt Guy article. Not convinced that spreadsheet shows anything more than potential info for new NPCs, but if it in fact does point towards playable subraces, I would guess that these take the 'new race' role in 8.0, rather than being customization options. Nightborne and Highmountain would probably have a mostly shared (start different, meet in middle) starting zone set on the Broken Isles, ending with them pledging allegiance to the Horde, while Lightforged and Void Elves would have a mostly shared starting zone set on the Xenedar and Argus, ending with them joining their Alliance brethren.
    I was thinking about this - given the high level of such zones, would that result in the equivalent of 'hero races' or some such? Just spitballing. Wouldn't make sense to start those (sub)races off at level 1, afterall.

  5. #19925
    Another question that came to mind is the following;
    Looking at the current "sub-races", they are all (well, no idea about void elves) currently neutral factions that both sides help during the legion campaign, wouldn't it be weird if suddenly the Highmountain Tauren that you saved started attacking your capital city as alliance? Could these sub-races be true neutral?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ensign View Post
    I was thinking about this - given the high level of such zones, would that result in the equivalent of 'hero races' or some such? Just spitballing. Wouldn't make sense to start those (sub)races off at level 1, afterall.
    I can't see hero races happening unless they are exclusively locked to a new hero class, no one would buy boosts anymore and there would be way too much of a population inflation on these races solely due to their skipping 110 levels

  6. #19926
    Quote Originally Posted by zlygork View Post
    Another question that came to mind is the following;
    Looking at the current "sub-races", they are all (well, no idea about void elves) currently neutral factions that both sides help during the legion campaign, wouldn't it be weird if suddenly the Highmountain Tauren that you saved started attacking your capital city as alliance? Could these sub-races be true neutral?
    Oh I like this, I like this a lot. Even if not true neutral, it could be a different way of answering the 'let me play X race on Y faction'. The faction tags in the db would probably refute this, but a man can have his delusions.

    Quote Originally Posted by zlygork View Post
    I can't see hero races happening unless they are exclusively locked to a new hero class, no one would buy boosts anymore and there would be way too much of a population inflation on these races solely due to their skipping 110 levels
    Yeah I hear you. Just wouldn't make much sense from a lore perspective for, say, a draenei to spend eons fighting the burning legion, become lightforged and then... start at level 1 :P You're right though, would interfere with boosts.
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  7. #19927
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    Quote Originally Posted by OGXanos View Post
    Now I just want void ghost tortollan pirates. And giant pirate parrot mounts.
    Giant undead pirate parrot mount

  8. #19928
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    Quote Originally Posted by ercarp View Post
    That sounds plausible. However, it seems a bit too similar in concept to Demon Hunters, who also happen to be elves. Void and fel magic are considered forces that should not be meddled with, but both Demon Hunters and Void Elves (which isn't a class actually) are willing to harness this "dark energy" into a weapon to use against their enemies. Literally the exact same concept, except one's a class and the other's a race.
    Could say the same about Death Knights so it wouldn't stop them. I don't see a Void based class coming around just yet though.
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  9. #19929
    Quote Originally Posted by zlygork View Post
    Another question that came to mind is the following;
    Looking at the current "sub-races", they are all (well, no idea about void elves) currently neutral factions that both sides help during the legion campaign, wouldn't it be weird if suddenly the Highmountain Tauren that you saved started attacking your capital city as alliance? Could these sub-races be true neutral?

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    I can't see hero races happening unless they are exclusively locked to a new hero class, no one would buy boosts anymore and there would be way too much of a population inflation on these races solely due to their skipping 110 levels
    unless its one sub race per realm

  10. #19930
    Quote Originally Posted by DancingMad View Post
    unless its one sub race per realm
    RIP RPers/Alt-o-holics

  11. #19931
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    just a thought has anyone tried line drawning or anything from the locations in the riddle cause 2 of the answers are locations not people

    note 13

    - I see dead people!
    - Leaf it to me.
    is the dead scar

    and
    note 09 A cat has nine lives, but needs only one.
    is old alterac

  12. #19932
    Quote Originally Posted by Ensign View Post
    I was thinking about this - given the high level of such zones, would that result in the equivalent of 'hero races' or some such? Just spitballing. Wouldn't make sense to start those (sub)races off at level 1, afterall.
    "Hero Races" is a stupid concept. Most of the requests are merely skin/cosmetic additions; whereas, the requests for new models, e.g. the Broken, could easily be accommodated by either a) having them as unlocked rewards via quest chains or b) having them unlocked upon the release of a patch at the normal level.

  13. #19933
    Quote Originally Posted by In Ogres We Trust View Post
    "Hero Races" is a stupid concept. Most of the requests are merely skin/cosmetic additions; whereas, the requests for new models, e.g. the Broken, could easily be accommodated by either a) having them as unlocked rewards via quest chains or b) having them unlocked upon the release of a patch at the normal level.
    It'll probably be a case of "Level a draenei to 120: Unlock Broken for your account."
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  14. #19934
    Kalipso is Azshara (both are Sea Witches). I can see Blizzard pulling it with corruption of this new Kul Tiras Davy Jones.
    Also interesting fact - this riddle guy mentioned Taylor who was killed and raised as GHOST in WoD and who was promoted to Admiral in MoP in lead Alliance in Vashir during Cataclysm!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorah View Post
    Kalipso is Azshara (both are Sea Witches). I can see Blizzard pulling it with corruption of this new Kul Tiras Davy Jones.
    Also interesting fact - this riddle guy mentioned Taylor who was killed and raised as GHOST in WoD and who was promoted to Admiral in MoP in lead Alliance in Vashir during Cataclysm!!!
    If Ghosts are going to become a thing, I'd rather Admiral Taylor come back only to protect the Alliance.
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  16. #19936
    Quote Originally Posted by In Ogres We Trust View Post
    "Hero Races" is a stupid concept. Most of the requests are merely skin/cosmetic additions; whereas, the requests for new models, e.g. the Broken, could easily be accommodated by either a) having them as unlocked rewards via quest chains or b) having them unlocked upon the release of a patch at the normal level.
    I agree, but the specific (potential) subraces on discussion go beyond small additions that could be melded into existing starting experiences. If these ones are a thing, they'll need something new. Considering at least 2 would be based in the Broken Isles, it just strikes me as unlikely it would be a level 1 experience.

  17. #19937
    I can see "Hero Races", but Nightborne would have to be neutral and Highmountain would have to be Horde. There would be a lot of understandable asspain otherwise.

    Lightforged Alliance makes sense, but what would be the Horde equivalent?

  18. #19938
    Quote Originally Posted by EbaumsTipster View Post
    I can see "Hero Races", but Nightborne would have to be neutral and Highmountain would have to be Horde. There would be a lot of understandable asspain otherwise.

    Lightforged Alliance makes sense, but what would be the Horde equivalent?
    I still feel like the Nightborne would be joining the horde along with the Highmountain.

  19. #19939
    I'm thinking Void Elves will be the flip side of the light magic using Blood Elves. Both were originally High Elves, but one group became the Blood Elves, adopted light magic, and joined the Horde. Now the remaining High Elves will soon join with Alleria and the Alliance and start adopting Void magic.

    It would explain why they use Blood Elf models if they are originally High Elves.

  20. #19940
    Quote Originally Posted by zlygork View Post
    Another question that came to mind is the following;
    Looking at the current "sub-races", they are all (well, no idea about void elves) currently neutral factions that both sides help during the legion campaign, wouldn't it be weird if suddenly the Highmountain Tauren that you saved started attacking your capital city as alliance? Could these sub-races be true neutral?
    If we're going just by the database this seems unlikely. The CreateScreen entry varies according to faction (alliance is 623712; horde is 623714; neutral panderen pre-choosing are 623716). Void elves and lightforged Draenei have the alliance entry; nightborne and highmountain tauren have the horde entry.

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