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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Segus1992 View Post
    Right, but having 5 specs that are godlike in WPvP isn't fun. It'd be fair if it was balanced somehow, like terrible mobility or something, but tanks really have it all. Still, I don't mind it that much, but having to avoid tanks points to it being a little too much.
    Also entirely depends on your class and spec. Rogues with certain legendaries can 2 or 3 shot even tanks.

    I dont know what ability it is (puts a targeting reticle on you that closes in, makes a noise, repeats this every tick) but a rogue with a legendary that augments this or provides it in some way tried to gank my Blood DH out on the Broken Shore a week or three ago while i was doing a WQ.

    Whatever the ability was (really should have screen shotted it) was doing about 1.2 MILLION per TICK. It would have killed me all on its own, if not for the fact that i was fighting mobs already and could pop Consumption on 10+ mobs to heal myself and Death Strike the crap out of the elite i was on.

    And thats literally the only thing the Rogue even did. He hit me with that ability, and just Vanished.

    If i had been just standing near no mobs, i would have died without being able to do anything about it, right there on the spot from that one single ability.

    wPvP is cancer. Just accept it and move on.

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Kagthul View Post
    Also entirely depends on your class and spec. Rogues with certain legendaries can 2 or 3 shot even tanks.

    I dont know what ability it is (puts a targeting reticle on you that closes in, makes a noise, repeats this every tick) but a rogue with a legendary that augments this or provides it in some way tried to gank my Blood DH out on the Broken Shore a week or three ago while i was doing a WQ.

    Whatever the ability was (really should have screen shotted it) was doing about 1.2 MILLION per TICK. It would have killed me all on its own, if not for the fact that i was fighting mobs already and could pop Consumption on 10+ mobs to heal myself and Death Strike the crap out of the elite i was on.

    And thats literally the only thing the Rogue even did. He hit me with that ability, and just Vanished.

    If i had been just standing near no mobs, i would have died without being able to do anything about it, right there on the spot from that one single ability.

    wPvP is cancer. Just accept it and move on.
    WPvP is cancer because one Rogue killed you easily. Good stuff bro.

    In similar news random BGs are cancer because I lost all three I played yesterday. The other faction is clearly OP.

    Yes some classes are strong in WPvP, but the nature of WPvP is chaos. The fact that a Rogue is able to kill you means it's more balanced than if nobody is.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Segus1992 View Post
    WPvP is cancer because one Rogue killed you easily. Good stuff bro.

    In similar news random BGs are cancer because I lost all three I played yesterday. The other faction is clearly OP.

    Yes some classes are strong in WPvP, but the nature of WPvP is chaos. The fact that a Rogue is able to kill you means it's more balanced than if nobody is.
    Reading comprehension not your thing, I see.

    For one, I didn't die.

    Two, the rogue would have done that with a single ability in one GCD, with no counterplay. That's cancer.

    When you get back to 3rd grade, for that remedial reading class, let them know I sent you, they'll cut you a good deal.

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Ulfric Trumpcloak View Post
    Are you retarded? Wpvp is literally broken, broken as in you die in 2 hits, 1 if its a rogue hitting you...

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    It's broken now though, ppl can get 1 shot. Rogue's evis hits for over 5m.
    Outside of extreme cases with buffs and other things going on nobody is taking you down in 2 hits. Warriors stupid front end burst, even more so with legendary items and procs all at once, are a much larger issue and even then it is manageable if you pay attention. World pvp is far from balances, but that isn't really the issue. It is for a long time most people on pvp servers were in zero danger of being attacked much less dying due to server faction balance. Now with phasing and cross server pvp actually happens at all times in all zones.
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  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Kagthul View Post
    Reading comprehension not your thing, I see.

    For one, I didn't die.

    Two, the rogue would have done that with a single ability in one GCD, with no counterplay. That's cancer.

    When you get back to 3rd grade, for that remedial reading class, let them know I sent you, they'll cut you a good deal.
    Here's the thing with PvP in general: it's not made to be balanced around the complaints of whiners like yourself, luckily.

    Also, ad hominems huh, real mature of you. Really shows that you're in the right here. I'm aware you didn't die, I was making a joke out of you using one fight to determine that WPvP is cancer which would be absolutely retarded.

    Turns out, as you proved in this post, that that's exactly what you did.

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Segus1992 View Post
    Here's the thing with PvP in general: it's not made to be balanced around the complaints of whiners like yourself, luckily.

    Also, ad hominems huh, real mature of you. Really shows that you're in the right here. I'm aware you didn't die, I was making a joke out of you using one fight to determine that WPvP is cancer which would be absolutely retarded.

    Turns out, as you proved in this post, that that's exactly what you did.
    Your reply is absolutely illogical. You basically dismissed his whole post and repeated to the nonsense you wrote above.
    Denial isn't healthy.

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrven View Post
    Outside of extreme cases with buffs and other things going on nobody is taking you down in 2 hits. Warriors stupid front end burst, even more so with legendary items and procs all at once, are a much larger issue and even then it is manageable if you pay attention. World pvp is far from balances, but that isn't really the issue. It is for a long time most people on pvp servers were in zero danger of being attacked much less dying due to server faction balance. Now with phasing and cross server pvp actually happens at all times in all zones.
    WPvP wouldn't be so bad and would actually be way better with cross server if it weren't for the complete lack of balance when it comes to servers being merged. As it stands on some servers the population is entirely dominated by one faction and this leads to incredibly frustrating times trying to do World Quests or anything else for that matter. Someone comes to gank me on a character while I'm doing things I would gladly fight back and probably enjoy myself even if I lost, but when I try to fight back and immediately get swarmed by 3-4 other people there is zero chance I will have fun and zero chance of escaping let alone fighting. Just on my server the vast majority of my time spent is avoiding the 4-1 horde population roaming around crushing anyone that so much as lands on the ground in front of them in the area.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Raqubor View Post
    Your reply is absolutely illogical. You basically dismissed his whole post and repeated to the nonsense you wrote above.
    Denial isn't healthy.
    So, WPvP = cancer because a Rogue almost killed a tank. Better if the tank was simply unkillable by similarly geared DPS? The point of WPvP isn't for it to be perfectly balanced, but with a spec that can potentially kill tanks, we're closer to balance than before. A tank kills every other spec with no effort or skill, is that what you prefer?

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrven View Post
    Outside of extreme cases with buffs and other things going on nobody is taking you down in 2 hits. Warriors stupid front end burst, even more so with legendary items and procs all at once, are a much larger issue and even then it is manageable if you pay attention. World pvp is far from balances, but that isn't really the issue. It is for a long time most people on pvp servers were in zero danger of being attacked much less dying due to server faction balance. Now with phasing and cross server pvp actually happens at all times in all zones.
    What part of eviscerate hitting for over 5m do you not understand? Go and duel a sub rogue. I posted screenshots the other day of an 880 sub rogue 2 shotting my 920 dh with a 2.4m and 2.8m evis, 880 ilvl...Arcane mages can 1 shot as well, frost mages, feral druids, both warrior specs, survival, ww monks can all kill you in a gcd.

    At the moment dmg is not reduced in wpvp. Classes that crit for millions in pve, do so as well in wpvp.

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Segus1992 View Post
    So, WPvP = cancer because a Rogue almost killed a tank. Better if the tank was simply unkillable by similarly geared DPS? The point of WPvP isn't for it to be perfectly balanced, but with a spec that can potentially kill tanks, we're closer to balance than before. A tank kills every other spec with no effort or skill, is that what you prefer?
    Please go back and read his post again, you obviously have reading comprehension problems, or are trolling.
    Either way, you are not worth my time anymore.

    WPVP is absolutely broken.

  11. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Raqubor View Post
    WPVP is absolutely broken.
    And it does not matter because the only reward for doing it is a few world quests, and you can very easily do any of them if you A) group up or B) 9/10 times just do the objectives and don't fuck with people and they probably won't fuck with you.

  12. #32
    World PvP is inherently broken, due to its openness.
    It isn't meant to be balanced.
    There is instanced PvP for that.

    As much as it isn't fun to be on the receiving end, it is what it is.
    And that isn't going to change.
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    Your forgot to include the part where we blame casuals for everything because blizzard is catering to casuals when casuals got jack squat for new content the entire expansion, like new dungeons and scenarios.
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    T'is good to see there are still people valiantly putting the "Ass" in assumption.

  13. #33
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    Wish they'd make the entire place a sanctuary zone. Nobody's interested in your grand de tutti jerk competition.

  14. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by buckflizz View Post
    And how could they fix wpvp? By aplying templates to wpvp aswell? Plsss..what a fuking joke
    That'd be a start, yeah. Better than it is currently at least.

  15. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soisoisoi View Post
    That'd be a start, yeah. Better than it is currently at least.
    I have this wild idea. I know this might sound crazy, but I just thought of it. What IF they'd introduce this gear that jumps to a certain ilevel if you enter in pvp combat. If you aren't in pvp combat, the ilevel of this gear would be lower. This gear would only be obtainable from doing pvp. You'll kill boars slightly slower if you equip this gear, but it would be BIS for pvp and would act as a kind of lifesaver in pvp situations in the open world as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Segus1992 View Post
    So, WPvP = cancer because a Rogue almost killed a tank. Better if the tank was simply unkillable by similarly geared DPS? The point of WPvP isn't for it to be perfectly balanced, but with a spec that can potentially kill tanks, we're closer to balance than before. A tank kills every other spec with no effort or skill, is that what you prefer?
    Wpvp is cancer because it's cancer, his example was simply that: an example.

    I literally 1shot nearly every single thing I come across with mantle and dreadlord on my rogue, now tell me that aint cancer lol.

    That isn't unbalanced, that is completely broken. Sure as hell is funny though.. but would be nice if it wasn't fucked to play my alts like sham without getting raped 24/7 by all the OP aids out there.

    Quote Originally Posted by shuubi View Post
    I have this wild idea. I know this might sound crazy, but I just thought of it. What IF they'd introduce this gear that jumps to a certain ilevel if you enter in pvp combat. If you aren't in pvp combat, the ilevel of this gear would be lower. This gear would only be obtainable from doing pvp. You'll kill boars slightly slower if you equip this gear, but it would be BIS for pvp and would act as a kind of lifesaver in pvp situations in the open world as well.

    I can't believe they ever removed this system in the first place, I guess the pve'rs always have to be the best in open world PVP ....

    But they'd also need to bring back base resil or something similar.. it isn't just about ilvl.
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  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Ulfric Trumpcloak View Post
    What part of eviscerate hitting for over 5m do you not understand? Go and duel a sub rogue. I posted screenshots the other day of an 880 sub rogue 2 shotting my 920 dh with a 2.4m and 2.8m evis, 880 ilvl...Arcane mages can 1 shot as well, frost mages, feral druids, both warrior specs, survival, ww monks can all kill you in a gcd.

    At the moment dmg is not reduced in wpvp. Classes that crit for millions in pve, do so as well in wpvp.
    Well you just said 5 million now you are saying 2.4 and 2.8. Maybe the issue is you are full of it. Next you are going to say you were in Dargbrul arena or something like that.
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  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrven View Post
    Well you just said 5 million now you are saying 2.4 and 2.8. Maybe the issue is you are full of it. Next you are going to say you were in Dargbrul arena or something like that.
    An 880 rogue hit me for 2.4 and 2.8m, learn to read idiot. A rogue around 920 will hit you for 6m easily...

  19. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Ulfric Trumpcloak View Post
    An 880 rogue hit me for 2.4 and 2.8m, learn to read idiot. A rogue around 920 will hit you for 6m easily...
    The damage doesn't more then double in a 40 item level window.
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  20. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrven View Post
    The damage doesn't more then double in a 40 item level window.
    Go and duel a sub rogue or an arcane mage. I'm done.

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