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    Putin bans VPNs to stop Russians accessing prohibited websites

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    http://www.zdnet.com/article/putin-b...use-in-russia/

    Russian President Vladimir Putin has signed a law prohibiting the use of technology that provides access to websites banned in the country.

    The law signed on Sunday is already approved by the Duma, the lower house of parliament, and will come into effect on November 1, 2017.

    See also: Apple removes VPN apps from China App Store to comply with government

    It will ban the use of virtual private networks (VPNs) and other technologies, known as anonymisers, that allow people to surf the web anonymously.

    Leonid Levin, the head of Duma's information policy committee, has said the law is not intended to impose restrictions on law-abiding citizens but is meant only to block access to "unlawful content", RIA news agency said.

    The move follows a decision Apple made at the weekend to pull VPN apps from the App Store in China.

    China has long operated the world's most sophisticated online censorship mechanism, known as the Great Firewall, and the use of VPNs by residents provides a loophole which can be used to circumvent the country's surveillance and blocking lists.

    Popular social media websites such as Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube, for example, are blocked in the country, with a pilot free-trade zone active in Shanghai in the past that allowed some access to such content, although still heavily restricted.

    Services including Microsoft Outlook and Gmail have also been banned.

    At the beginning of last year, China upgraded its Great Firewall and began to crack down on the use of VPNs within the Middle Kingdom.

    The revamped internet filter made it difficult to work around the Facebook ban, and called it a move aimed at fostering the "healthy development" of the internet in China.

    The Chinese government earlier this month ordered state-owned internet service providers, including China Mobile, China Unicom, and China Telecom, to completely block access to VPNs by February 2018.

    It followed a 14-month campaign the Chinese Ministry of Industry and Information Technology launched in January, aimed at cracking down on "unauthorised" web platforms and services the government does not approve of.

    In what the Chinese government labelled a "clean up" which will "standardise the market order" and "promote healthy and orderly development", the program forces ISPs, VPN providers, datacentres, and content delivery networks to gain a licence and approval from Chinese officials to operate.

    The campaign described VPNs as "illegal cross-border business issues" that need to be controlled, and deems it illegal for businesses to operate outside of their specific licence limitations.
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    If you think western countries don't filter websites, I have elite oceanfront property to sell you in Afganistan. If you also think that blocking methods that allow to circumvent laws is bad, you must be ignoring logic to push your agenda.... which is exactly what you are doing with that "news".

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    I don't see how this is any different from how the socialist party here successfully banned and censored websites for the sake of private american corporations honestly.

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    Russian President Vladimir Putin has signed a law prohibiting the use of technology that provides access to websites banned in the country.

    The law signed on Sunday is already approved by the Duma, the lower house of parliament, and will come into effect on November 1, 2017.
    K, so ignoring the clickbait title, Russia hasn't banned VPNs, just made it illegal to use them (or other methods) to gain access to sites banned in the country?

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    75% of the OP is about China.
    All right, gentleperchildren, let's review. The year is 2024 - that's two-zero-two-four, as in the 21st Century's perfect vision - and I am sorry to say the world has become a pussy-whipped, Brady Bunch version of itself, run by a bunch of still-masked clots ridden infertile senile sissies who want the Last Ukrainian to die so they can get on with the War on China, with some middle-eastern genocide on the side

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    I wonder when Russia will be not-so-corrupt.

    I'll hold my breath until then.

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    Russian Laws Will Ban VPNs And Force Chat Users To Register, Giving Censors An Edge

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetwb.../#2de98bf62d7e



    By year's end, Russian web users will no longer have access to certain portions of the web via virtual or proxy networks, nor be able to use chatting apps incognito.

    President Vladimir Putin has signed into law two "controversial" pieces of legislation regulating how Russians can operate online, RadioFreeEurope first reported Sunday. Signed June 29 and published June 30, the laws were advanced for the stated purpose of stemming the spread of prohibited or extremist content online.

    One law, scheduled to go into effect November 1, will ban the use of internet proxy services in the country, including virtual private networks (VPNs), which have often helped users access to websites banned by the state. Under the law, internet providers will be required to block websites that offer VPNs and other proxy services.

    Another law, affecting Russians starting January 1, will order chat apps to identify users by their phone numbers, which many apps enthusiastically encourage but don't demand. Facebook Messenger and other chat apps will now be required to collect users' phone numbers, and to limit access for users who spread illegal content.

    Proxy networks have increasingly been the target of governments seeking to limit residents' access to online content that's un-approved by the state. In seeming response to ongoing pressure from Chinese authorities, Apple yanked all of the VPN apps from its China offerings this month.

    As RadioFreeEurope noted, the new Russian laws will go into effect months ahead of the country's March 2018 presidential election, in which Putin is "widely expected to seek and win a new six-year term."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elim Garak View Post
    75% of the OP is about China.
    How about this one then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Binki View Post
    If you think western countries don't filter websites, I have elite oceanfront property to sell you in Afganistan. If you also think that blocking methods that allow to circumvent laws is bad, you must be ignoring logic to push your agenda.... which is exactly what you are doing with that "news".
    What the fuck? lol
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    You are a carbon copy of what you long so hard to fight in the streets. An extremist. Someone so desperate for strife to prove you are the ubermensch, err, Real American.

    Alt lite. Sounds like you're having an alt fright. Unable to sleep at alt night. Maybe you should relax and fly an alt kite. Go down to the diner for an alt bite. You shouldn't be treating people with alt spite. Eventually, everything will be alt right.

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    It's adorable watching the authoritarians run in here to support such bullshit.

    Why does Putin hate freedom so much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by caervek View Post
    K, so ignoring the clickbait title, Russia hasn't banned VPNs, just made it illegal to use them (or other methods) to gain access to sites banned in the country?
    So what, you think they're just making the sites extra illegal? The wording is that the technology is prohibited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    It's adorable watching the authoritarians run in here to support such bullshit.
    Yeah, all one of them. Real crowd there.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dextroden View Post
    You are a carbon copy of what you long so hard to fight in the streets. An extremist. Someone so desperate for strife to prove you are the ubermensch, err, Real American.

    Alt lite. Sounds like you're having an alt fright. Unable to sleep at alt night. Maybe you should relax and fly an alt kite. Go down to the diner for an alt bite. You shouldn't be treating people with alt spite. Eventually, everything will be alt right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    How about this one then?
    Same shit from a different source. This time even more incorrect. The use of VPN and Proxies is not banned. It's when you use VPN and Proxies to access illegal content - that's what the law is about. And in case you wonder what illegal content is: terrorist stuff, child porn, drug pushers, piracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tss View Post
    So what, you think they're just making the sites extra illegal? The wording is that the technology is prohibited.
    The wording is in English.
    All right, gentleperchildren, let's review. The year is 2024 - that's two-zero-two-four, as in the 21st Century's perfect vision - and I am sorry to say the world has become a pussy-whipped, Brady Bunch version of itself, run by a bunch of still-masked clots ridden infertile senile sissies who want the Last Ukrainian to die so they can get on with the War on China, with some middle-eastern genocide on the side

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    Quote Originally Posted by tss View Post
    So what, you think they're just making the sites extra illegal? The wording is that the technology is prohibited.
    No, the wording is that "use of technology that provides access to websites banned in the country" is "prohibited".

    That doesn't say that use of VPNs is prohibited, which make sense as thousands of Russian businesses and citizens use/require VPN use, and the official statement from Moscow was "the law is not intended to impose restrictions on law-abiding citizens but is meant only to block access to unlawful content". Hence my complaint about the clickbait title and article (which is 90% about China not Russia).

    In lieu of a reliable source it seems that VPNs aren't banned just the use of them in an illegal way, which makes sense because if the law actually banned any technology that provided access to banned websites that would also ban Internet Explorer and computers lol.

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    The UK is planning the same kind of shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lei Shi View Post
    The UK is planning the same kind of shit.
    We can dislike the action of both governments...
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    But guys, Russia totally isn't a fascist oligarchy that we should totally be friends with despite multiple military sources stating that Russia is the most daunting enemy the United States has ever faced and multiple intelligence sources stating they meddled in our election.

    This law, however, is a little weird. The way its worded tries to make it sound that if you are caught doing something illegal with a VPN, its somehow more illegal? Definitely sounds more like a political move to target VPN users and crack down on the people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elim Garak View Post
    Same shit from a different source. This time even more incorrect. The use of VPN and Proxies is not banned. It's when you use VPN and Proxies to access illegal content - that's what the law is about. And in case you wonder what illegal content is: terrorist stuff, child porn, drug pushers, piracy.

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    The wording is in English.
    So it makes accessing these websites more illegal, somehow? Again, it seems definitely more like a political move to target VPN users than it does any beneficial legislation.
    There are no worse scum in this world than fascists, rebels and political hypocrites.
    Donald Trump is only like Hitler because of the fact he's losing this war on all fronts.
    Apparently condemning a fascist ideology is the same as being fascist. And who the fuck are you to say I can't be fascist against fascist ideologies?
    If merit was the only dividing factor in the human race, then everyone on Earth would be pretty damn equal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caervek View Post
    K, so ignoring the clickbait title, Russia hasn't banned VPNs, just made it illegal to use them (or other methods) to gain access to sites banned in the country?
    Under the law, internet providers will be required to block websites that offer VPNs and other proxy services.

    So proxies are banned.

    Another law, affecting Russians starting January 1, will order chat apps to identify users by their phone numbers, which many apps enthusiastically encourage but don't demand. Facebook Messenger and other chat apps will now be required to collect users' phone numbers, and to limit access for users who spread illegal content.

    And no anonymity on the internet.
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    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Binki View Post
    If you think western countries don't filter websites
    I don't think I could tell you a single website I've not had access to. On YouTube, some American cable providers and PPV providers do like to restrict their videos by country, but aside from stuff like that...nope. Can't think of a single website. You want to list a few, as an example?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    Please don't bury this in POLITICS mods.

    "The biggest threat to Russia has always been Russians"

    -- anonymous







    http://www.zdnet.com/article/putin-b...use-in-russia/

    Russian President Vladimir Putin has signed a law prohibiting the use of technology that provides access to websites banned in the country.

    The law signed on Sunday is already approved by the Duma, the lower house of parliament, and will come into effect on November 1, 2017.

    See also: Apple removes VPN apps from China App Store to comply with government

    It will ban the use of virtual private networks (VPNs) and other technologies, known as anonymisers, that allow people to surf the web anonymously.

    Leonid Levin, the head of Duma's information policy committee, has said the law is not intended to impose restrictions on law-abiding citizens but is meant only to block access to "unlawful content", RIA news agency said.

    The move follows a decision Apple made at the weekend to pull VPN apps from the App Store in China.

    China has long operated the world's most sophisticated online censorship mechanism, known as the Great Firewall, and the use of VPNs by residents provides a loophole which can be used to circumvent the country's surveillance and blocking lists.

    Popular social media websites such as Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube, for example, are blocked in the country, with a pilot free-trade zone active in Shanghai in the past that allowed some access to such content, although still heavily restricted.

    Services including Microsoft Outlook and Gmail have also been banned.

    At the beginning of last year, China upgraded its Great Firewall and began to crack down on the use of VPNs within the Middle Kingdom.

    The revamped internet filter made it difficult to work around the Facebook ban, and called it a move aimed at fostering the "healthy development" of the internet in China.

    The Chinese government earlier this month ordered state-owned internet service providers, including China Mobile, China Unicom, and China Telecom, to completely block access to VPNs by February 2018.

    It followed a 14-month campaign the Chinese Ministry of Industry and Information Technology launched in January, aimed at cracking down on "unauthorised" web platforms and services the government does not approve of.

    In what the Chinese government labelled a "clean up" which will "standardise the market order" and "promote healthy and orderly development", the program forces ISPs, VPN providers, datacentres, and content delivery networks to gain a licence and approval from Chinese officials to operate.

    The campaign described VPNs as "illegal cross-border business issues" that need to be controlled, and deems it illegal for businesses to operate outside of their specific licence limitations.
    Why would you think Russia internet "news" would be reshifted to politics? What could hacking have to do with politics in the United States. I mean, except for the president, the 2016 election, and our treasonous first family there really isn't anything political about it.

    Also, it's adorable that this "article" with "news" in it attempts to purport that Putin wants to limit Russian internet activity and not be duplicitous. Almost as adorable as this entire thread and your little agenda.

    Russia is on a world-wide political hacking/influence war. And they will lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Why would you think Russia internet "news" would be reshifted to politics? What could hacking have to do with politics in the United States. I mean, except for the president, the 2016 election, and our treasonous first family there really isn't anything political about it.

    Also, it's adorable that this "article" with "news" in it attempts to purport that Putin wants to limit Russian internet activity and not be duplicitous. Almost as adorable as this entire thread and your little agenda.

    Russia is on a world-wide political hacking/influence war. And they will lose.
    They are already losing. The only reason why puppet Trump was even considered was because everyone thought he was crazy enough to veto Russia sanctions.

    Owait.
    There are no worse scum in this world than fascists, rebels and political hypocrites.
    Donald Trump is only like Hitler because of the fact he's losing this war on all fronts.
    Apparently condemning a fascist ideology is the same as being fascist. And who the fuck are you to say I can't be fascist against fascist ideologies?
    If merit was the only dividing factor in the human race, then everyone on Earth would be pretty damn equal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manabomb View Post
    So it makes accessing these websites more illegal, somehow? Again, it seems definitely more like a political move to target VPN users than it does any beneficial legislation.
    Accessing those sites was never illegal, it was illegal for ISPs to allow such sites to be hosted on their servers and not block access to them if they are hosted somewhere else.
    All right, gentleperchildren, let's review. The year is 2024 - that's two-zero-two-four, as in the 21st Century's perfect vision - and I am sorry to say the world has become a pussy-whipped, Brady Bunch version of itself, run by a bunch of still-masked clots ridden infertile senile sissies who want the Last Ukrainian to die so they can get on with the War on China, with some middle-eastern genocide on the side

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