"At the hour of her third death, she will usher in our coming."

[Lulbalance]

Sylvanas has died three times but the "Banshee Queen" has only died twice, suicide at icecrown and shot in the head by Godfrey. I think it refers to Chromie and those who are trying to kill her.

They do make a point of using 'the hour', not incorrect but also not all that common to say it that way. Seems pointed. They also say 'At', that IS in incorrect as and also pointed. You would typically say 'In the hour..' or 'On the hour'. This way implies physical location coinciding with time. Time and space.

[Nyel]

Could "hour" be somehow connected to "The Hour of Twilight"? In form of the Infinite Dragonflight maybe?

[Lulbalance]

Could "hour" be somehow connected to "The Hour of Twilight"? In form of the Infinite Dragonflight maybe?

They are definitely tied to this that could be, you notice twilight (x,y,z) almost always in the immediate area of shady void happenings it seems. Interesting idea.

On the Jaina thing, I feel like she's more likely tied to "Her heart is a crater, and we have filled it.” Maybe foreshadowing Jaina becoming a tragic hero which WoW loves.

[Night Wind]

They do make a point of using 'the hour', not incorrect but also not all that common to say it that way. Seems pointed. They also say 'At', that IS in incorrect as and also pointed. You would typically say 'In the hour..' or 'On the hour'. This way implies physical location coinciding with time. Time and space.

Yeah. We know the dragons will play a big role next expansion combined with the all the hints of Shadow/Void.

[Ryon21]

When Aman'Thul ripped off Y'Shaaraj creating a massive wound to Azeroth, that wouldn't be its "first" death? Then the Sundering and the Cataclysm being its "second" and third"?
I'm not a big fan of her being Azeroth but it is a possibility. About who else could be... there are many candidates especially if you think of the phrase in a metaphorical way. The only sure thing is that who Il'Gynoth is referring is a she so any male is out. The most posible ones being: Sylvanas or Jaina but we can also add Azshara, Alleria, Maiev etc. Until the next patch and the Blizzcon or the Gamescon we won't know for sure.

Also it could be any cleric of the Church of Light since it seems that its leaders are secretly with the Twilight's Hammer (A tiny joke).

[omeomorfismo]

i will bet on onyxia

[FelPlague]

Sylvanas died twice already. First, when she thought against the Scourge advance in Quel'thalas and then raised as a banshee. Her second death happened in a story that happened between Wrath and Cataclysm, where she committed suicide and died, but the LK's Val'kyr, now unbound by the death of Arthas, bound themselves to Sylvanas, and one said val'kyr sacrificed herself to bring Sylvanas back to life.

I may be remembering things wrong, but I think that is how it happened in the small story.

she died three times
'as you said scourge advance
short story.
third time she is shot by Geoffrey in the back

- - - Updated - - -

When Aman'Thul ripped off Y'Shaaraj creating a massive wound to Azeroth, that wouldn't be its "first" death? Then the Sundering and the Cataclysm being its "second" and third"?
I'm not a big fan of that "she" is Azeroth but it is a possibility. About who else could be... there are many candidates especially if you think of the phrase in a metaphorical way. The only sure thing is that who Il'Gynoth is referring is a she so any male is out. The most posible ones being: Sylvanas or Jaina but we can also add Azshara, Alleria, Maiev etc. Until the next patch and the Blizzcon or the Gamescon we won't know for sure.

We do know azeroth is a female, and i do like that idea.

- - - Updated - - -

Yeah. We know the dragons will play a big role next expansion combined with the all the hints of Shadow/Void.

how do you know? who is we? how do "we" know the next expansion dragons will play a big role? where are you getting this from?

[Night Wind]

she died three times
'as you said scourge advance
short story.
third time she is shot by Geoffrey in the back

- - - Updated - - -



We do know azeroth is a female, and i do like that idea.

- - - Updated - - -



how do you know? who is we? how do "we" know the next expansion dragons will play a big role? where are you getting this from?

Jessie Cox hosted an interview with Ion Hazzikostas where he asked about the Death of Chromie scenario and if we will see more of the Infinite Dragonflight in the future. Ion replied.

"It seems very likely, certainly when your lvl 112. In the deaths of Chromie scenario, dragons are going to be very important."

[Nurasu]

A stretch, admittedly, but didn't we kill Elisande 3 times? Could her final death have caused something? The Nightwell is essentially Azeroth's essence just like the Well of Eternity, right?

[Nyel]

A stretch, admittedly, but didn't we kill Elisande 3 times? Could her final death have caused something? The Nightwell is essentially Azeroth's essence just like the Well of Eternity, right?

Elisande is another candidate for it. Then we have to figure what her death resulted in that could refer to "she will usher in our coming".

Could we gather all the different translations for this? Maybe there are some more hints.

English: "At the hour of her third death, she will usher in our coming."

German: "Zur Stund' ihres dritten Todes verheißt sie unser Kommen."

When I read it in German it makes more sense for me than in English because I really haven't heard the second sentence before.

[ATZenith]

What are you referencing in the title/OP?

[Al Gorefiend]

Why would the Old Gods have prophecies related to a mortal? Everything they speak of is kinda on the grand scale. I don't believe they're referring to any lore characters.

OP sounds right.

[Hey There Guys its Metro]

It might be related to baeric dondarion. He has also died before.

[Deventh]

It might be related to baeric dondarion. He has also died before.

I always knew Beric was a woman. Good reference though, haha.

[Nyel]

Why would the Old Gods have prophecies related to a mortal? Everything they speak of is kinda on the grand scale. I don't believe they're referring to any lore characters.

OP sounds right.

Maybe because they're chess pieces for them? It's pretty obvious that at least Magni (King of Diamonds) and Anduin (Boy-King) are referenced.

[DeltrusDisc]

Why wouldn't it be Sylvanas? She's actually literally died, unlike Azeroth who merely underwent cosmetic surgery.

Don't take words so literally and you may yet understand poetry.

- - - Updated - - -

1st death was in Quel'thalas, killed by Arthas
2nd death was her suicide at Icecrown, where the val'kyr ressurected her and bound themselves to her.
3rd death was in Gilneas.

However, since her first death, lead to her birth as the Banshee Queen, that one time might not count, but it's unlikely to be the case.

I am mainly an Alliance player so all I have seen is how she was murdered and raised by Arthas/The Lich King. I'm intrigued to see these other instances where she dies. Are they available in the game or in books?

[Noomz]

I personally think this doesn't mean neither Sylvanas nor Jaina. I think he was referencing Azeroth (since Azeroth is a SHE) The first death was the Sundering, the second was the Cataclysm and the 3rd is yet to come -> (Next expansion?) What are your thoughts?

Azshara. Just you watch.

[Deventh]

Don't take words so literally and you may yet understand poetry.

- - - Updated - - -


I am mainly an Alliance player so all I have seen is how she was murdered and raised by Arthas/The Lich King. I'm intrigued to see these other instances where she dies. Are they available in the game or in books?

They are available in game. One is after defeating the Lich King, she jumps off Icecrown and the other is after the events of the Cataclysm with Godfrey betraying her.

[Rathbourne]

Jaina seems the LEAST possible fit for any of these yet people still try to put her in there.

[Deleted]

It's definitely a reference to Sylvanas Windrunner.

The first death was the death of Sylvanas the Highborne. But it was the rebirth of Sylvanas the Undead. Her following two deaths as undead are what should interest you, because on those occasions she was narrowly spared her fate with the sacrifice of her Val'kyr. Now she has enough of them left for one final death, which will be her third.

After that, she is desperate to avoid eternal damnation. Desperate enough to strike a deal with the Old Gods.