[MM] Simming very low

[Balkoth]

Trying to use Simcraft to figure out what to put points in/gear towards.

Took a gamble today and upgraded my MM weapon with two new relics.
previous weapon:
ilvl 912
Called Shot x 2, and Precision relics

New Weapon:
ilvl 931
Called Shot, Precision, Survival of the Fittest.

I also added in three more points of concordance.

Previous sim: 690303
New sim: 634595

I'm not sure how I got up 19 ilvls on the weapon, three points of concordance and trade bad relics for bad relics and go down in DPS.

[khazlol]

You can avoid gambles with addons like SimPermut.

[andreasels]

You can avoid gambles with addons like SimPermut.

Still can't imagine how this could be even possible, since 2 traits are even the same and 19 ilvl more are HUGE.
@Balkoth: are you sure that you used the same settings for both sims?

[khazlol]

perhaps called shot scales really well. had 940 relics compete with 915 as BM.

you can try and sim it all again with the addon.

[Aesde]

perhaps called shot scales really well. had 940 relics compete with 915 as BM.

you can try and sim it all again with the addon.

But MM isn't BM.
I'm sure, that TC don't tell us the whole story. He changed his talents or leggos and siddenly his dps decreased.
Not because of new relics.

[Deleted]

Called Shot has a single target weapon iLvl value of 0, so losing one of that shouldn't matter in a single target simulation. There is actually no way that the changes to your weapon can result in less SimDps, so you've got to have something else switched which you may not have noticed, e.g. fight length, talents or another gear piece.

[Emerald Archer]

had 940 relics compete with 915 as BM.

Yeahh.. MM isn't like that at all, weapon ilvl is hugely important. Wouldn't lose 4 wep ilvls for a trait.

[khazlol]

Yeahh.. MM isn't like that at all, weapon ilvl is hugely important. Wouldn't lose 4 wep ilvls for a trait.

can't claim i am an expert. i think Hextrox is right.

[Balkoth]

I think I found the issue. It seems to be a bug in Simc and why my MM DPS overall really sucks.

First lists my weapon as 860
ilevel: 860, weapon: { 7672 - 7674, 3 }, stats: { +1495 Agi, +2242 Sta, +723 Crit, +694 Mastery }, relics: { +52 ilevels, +58 ilevels }

Second pulls it up as 808
ilevel: 808, weapon: { 4727 - 4729, 3 }, stats: { +893 Agi, +1340 Sta, +577 Crit, +554 Mastery }, relics: { +58 ilevels }

Is there a known bug in Simc where relics aren't being picked up?

http://imgur.com/a/gVBLX
http://imgur.com/a/Test4

[aomtte]

Do you use the simc addon or the import from armory?

If you use the simc addon, can you check the given string ?

[Balkoth]

Was an armory import.