Man...

[Morally Grey Storm]

*Laughs in Stuns, and Aggramar's Stride*

*Laughs in Engineering*

*cackles in Heroic Leap+Double Time *
Also, spammable slows which can't be dispelled.

[Jester Joe]

*Laughs in Stuns, and Aggramar's Stride*

*Laughs in Engineering*

Dude stop.

There's no way you're using Aggramar's Strides while having your BiS on (according to your other post), nor wasting a potion use by using your belt boost instead.

Unless you have one BiS legendary, and boots as your other, which in that case sucks awfully for damage output compared to the other legendaries.

As much as I love Ret, unless you're running for some strange reason Virtue's Blade, I find it highly unlikely you're hitting for nearly 8-9m crits.

Also, Divine Steed sucks horribly. It wastes a GCD to use, and it only lasts a whopping 3 seconds while having a 45 second CD. It's flat out pathetic, aside from being flashy.

[Temp name]

Also, Divine Steed sucks horribly. It wastes a GCD to use, and it only lasts a whopping 3 seconds while having a 45 second CD. It's flat out pathetic, aside from being flashy.

The only worse mobility spell in the game is what DK's have.. And they have spammable slows AND a grip on top of it. Not to mention damage, they have that too.

[Schattenlied]

Ret sorely needs Prot's mobility talents(Knight Templar talent/Steed of Glory PvP talent), then we'd be in a good spot

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The only worse mobility spell in the game is what DK's have.. And they have spammable slows AND a grip on top of it. Not to mention damage, they have that too.

technically not worse, Wraith Walk doesn't require a second spell (that can be dispelled) to be useful... WW suppresses snares, Steed doesn't... Steed is worse if snares are present.

[Jester Joe]

technically not worse, Wraith Walk doesn't require a second spell (that can be dispelled) to be useful... WW suppresses snares, Steed doesn't.

Probably because we can waste another GCD on Blessing of Freedom. What do you mean that's not good enough!

[Temp name]

technically not worse, Wraith Walk doesn't require a second spell (that can be dispelled) to be useful... WW suppresses snares, Steed doesn't... Steed is worse if snares are present.

Oh yeah, WW suppresses snares.. I forgot about that. Also its talents are useful.

[Dalheim]

I miss Auras, not a huge thing really, but I liked having 'em.

[Schattenlied]

I miss Auras, not a huge thing really, but I liked having 'em.

They were nice flavor, like Seals, they weren't terribly useful but I enjoyed having them.

[Temp name]

Indeed.. Kinda weird for an expansion so focused on class fantasy to remove auras and seals..

[Morally Grey Storm]

I am the Ret don't run a lot
Don't need no speed to get ontop of my T's
Under the sun the bastard son
Will pop The Steed to embarrass himself and the whole class
By any means, your enemies, my enemies
We wet them if somehow I get near
The Nagrand Arena surrounds the fate
Don't have no snares, so now you live, open the gates

[TheFirstOnes]

Dude stop.

There's no way you're using Aggramar's Strides while having your BiS on (according to your other post), nor wasting a potion use by using your belt boost instead.

Unless you have one BiS legendary, and boots as your other, which in that case sucks awfully for damage output compared to the other legendaries.

As much as I love Ret, unless you're running for some strange reason Virtue's Blade, I find it highly unlikely you're hitting for nearly 8-9m crits.

Also, Divine Steed sucks horribly. It wastes a GCD to use, and it only lasts a whopping 3 seconds while having a 45 second CD. It's flat out pathetic, aside from being flashy.

I use 2 different Legendaries each fight I do. Some days, I use BiS, and Aggramar's stride. Other times, I use Justice Gaze, And Aggramar's Stride. Other days, I used Whispers, and Chain.

And don't ask how I do it, cause I have Tomb Of Sargeras Heroic gear, and 7.3 World Boss gear to help me replace my different slots.

There are ways to get past 8-9m Crit as Ret. I've done it way more than once already.

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*cackles in Heroic Leap+Double Time *
Also, spammable slows which can't be dispelled.

*Looks at Warrior stuff*

*Bubbles, then heals*

LUL

[Jester Joe]

I use 2 different Legendaries each fight I do. Some days, I use BiS, and Aggramar's stride. Other times, I use Justice Gaze, And Aggramar's Stride. Other days, I used Whispers, and Chain.

And don't ask how I do it, cause I have Tomb Of Sargeras Heroic gear, and 7.3 World Boss gear to help me replace my different slots.

There are ways to get past 8-9m Crit as Ret. I've done it way more than once already.

Okay? I'm also geared in H ToS gear, with M+9/10 gear.

I'm still heavily doubting your ability to crit PAST 8-9m now, without running some sort of gimped rotation that hits really hard with Blade, but loses damage everywhere else. Especially if you're running things like Justice Gaze with Aggramar's Stride.

*Looks at Warrior stuff*

*Bubbles, then heals*

LUL

If you have to bubble and heal yourself, your raid is failing or already wiping on the boss.

[Eurytos]

Honestly, I couldnt agree more with the first two posts.

Gimme Hammer of Wrath back, and no facing requirement for judgement....and I'll just deal with everything else.

Seriously, everything I complain about, I would shut up about...for at least a few patches, if those two things were made right.

[TheFirstOnes]

Okay? I'm also geared in H ToS gear, with M+9/10 gear.

I'm still heavily doubting your ability to crit PAST 8-9m now, without running some sort of gimped rotation that hits really hard with Blade, but loses damage everywhere else. Especially if you're running things like Justice Gaze with Aggramar's Stride.



If you have to bubble and heal yourself, your raid is failing or already wiping on the boss.

Wait, are you talking about PVE, or PVP? Cause, i'm talking PVP.

[Jester Joe]

Wait, are you talking about PVE, or PVP? Cause, i'm talking PVP.

You can't even use legendaries in PvP, so why the hell would you mention them and their effects

And there's absolutely no way then you're one shotting people for double their health pool.

[Schattenlied]

*Looks at Warrior stuff*

*Bubbles, then heals*

LUL

Yeah, you get a whole 50% hp back for that 5 min CD and blow all your mana, meanwhile, Arms Warriors have Soul of the Slaughter, which gives them heals forabout 1.5x of a Flash of Light that just happen, for free, without needing to stop and cast, lower their DPS, or spend additional resources, as a result of them simply doing their normal damage. All while they have viable mobility, hit like trucks, and have good defensives in the form of Die by the Sword, Defensive Stance, and Spell Reflect.

Not to mention all the Warrior has to do is Heroic Leap to a pillar when you bubble to heal, get out of LoS and start eating to heal the same amount as you do during that time.

[Temp name]

Don't warriors also still have the ability to break bubble? Shattering Throw or whatever it was

[Schattenlied]

Don't warriors also still have the ability to break bubble? Shattering Throw or whatever it was

No, thats been gone for a while now.

[Morally Grey Storm]

*Looks at Warrior stuff*

*Bubbles, then heals*

LUL

*While you're bubbled, I furiously Sharpen Blade, then proceed to sodomize you with said Sharpened Blade, while your healer weeps helplessly*

LAL

[Temp name]

No, thats been gone for a while now.

Ah okay. Haven't touched a warrior since Cata