1. #36681
    Quote Originally Posted by Fugus View Post
    2) Remember, this is the Democrats, they cave easy, just look at the military budget since they took office.
    As Skroe has pointed out, this isn't caving; neither party has historically evinced much of an interest in dramatically lowering the military budget, and if they did it's much better to limit the scope and adjust the budget accordingly than to limit the budget and make them do more with less.

    That said, on issues that are actually important, they've given very little ground. Remember the shutdown over their refusal to put any funds whatsoever for the Wall in the budget?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    You can almost hear Collins sighing in resignation as she is forced to defend her "Trump learned something" statement with...this.



    Congratulations, GOP. You're left with the defense of "the man we've chosen to follow often acts impulsively".
    Mainers guiding principle in November needs to be ABC: Anyone But Collins.

    That's the one upside of the last few years; her facade as a principled moderate has been utterly destroyed. It's now fairly well documented that if her vote would decide the outcome of a vote, she votes the way the party wants her to vote. If it won't change anything, then she pretends to be a principled moderate that bucks her party.
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    Trump says he does not mind if Philippines cuts military pact with U.S.
    Who needs alliances in the most important corner of the globe in the immediate future anyway?
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  4. #36684
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Trump says he does not mind if Philippines cuts military pact with U.S.
    Who needs alliances in the most important corner of the globe in the immediate future anyway?
    I've actually had a couple Trumpsters say "why do we need allies?" and all I can do is wonder if they understand how the world works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Trump says he does not mind if Philippines cuts military pact with U.S.
    Who needs alliances in the most important corner of the globe in the immediate future anyway?
    I'm actually not worried about this one. This is the early stage of the relationship. Give it a few rounds of insults and then a summit and then Trump and Duterte will want to bone.

  6. #36686
    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    Well this is problematic.

    Apologies for quoting myself, but I did try to raise this alarm:
    Quote Originally Posted by Levelfive View Post
    Here's the thing about the embassy move:

    "Not long before my trip to Alabama, my mom sent me a book called The Book of Signs: 31 Undeniable Prophesies of the Apocalypse, by Dr. David Jeremiah. “If you want to know what the religious right thinks,” she’d called to say, “read this book.” So I started reading. Jeremiah is pastor of the San Diego megachurch helmed for 25 years by Tim LaHaye, co-author of the Left Behind series, and he is a fervent follower of the End Times theology his predecessor popularized. By referencing symbolism in the Bible and shoehorning historical and current events into a narrative, The Book of Signs “proves” Jesus’ imminent return. It’s the type of book that mostly appeals to people already primed to believe it, but close to half of Americans do. In fact, 41 percent of the country — and 58 percent of white evangelicals — believe that Jesus definitely or probably will return to Earth by 2050. In June 2016, Trump named Jeremiah to his Evangelical Executive Advisory Board. In May 2018, Trump moved the Israeli embassy to Jerusalem, an event that is meant to presage Christ’s return." (Emphasis mine.)

    It's a very illuminating article if, like me, you at first laughed out loud when Trump claimed he'd done more for evangelicals than any other president in the history of ever. https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...-trump-915381/

    This is how he rules--favors that cost him nothing (you think he gives a ripe flying shit where this, or any, embassy is?) and keep, in this case, the religious right on incandescently hypocritical lock down, and heads-on-humiliation-pikes fear that keeps everyone else in line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefhammer View Post
    Too bad the Dems control the house and this budget will be used to wipe asses.
    I work for the Department of Energy's (DOE's) Office of Science at a National Laboratory, and while Congress, both the current Democrat controlled and the previous Republican controlled have told Trump to go pound sand in regards to his austerity budgets, I'd like a person in the WH who actually wants to push Science and Technology forward and not slash it back every year.
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    Given how obviously compromised and implicit Devin Nunes is in various shit that has been/still is happening, why would anyone trust what he has to say? The cynic in me likens this prediction to something Jacob Wohl would say before he cooks something up himself to release, before being caught in his own bullshit.

  9. #36689
    Quote Originally Posted by Fugus View Post
    2 things.

    1) The fact he is trying this says enough.
    2) Remember, this is the Democrats, they cave easy, just look at the military budget since they took office.

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    One thing I have started to think about and I wonder if it might be true.

    We know that Trump is half blind, he refuses to use twitter in public and his scripts are written in over-sized sharpie as well. But what are the odds he is color blind as well?

    I mean seriously, how else can he honestly think coming out looking (Like another said) an Oompa Loompa version of blackface would fool anyone. What are the odds he is color blind and, to him, that looks like a natural bronze complexion to him?

    We already know he thinks he knows more than anyone else so no one can tell him otherwise and he won't dare admit he has a problem. We have his vision, his weight, his health, his popular vote, his poll numbers, his inauguration crowd, his net worth, and virtually every part of his life is a lie to make himself look better than he is.

    What are the odds that him being color blind is actually another one?
    No, rich people think tand are sexy, and god know he believes his time is worth more than the time it would take to actually tan, or possibly he's actually concerned with skin cancer, so his go to is a quick min fake spray tan.

    As for his budget. Pelosi will not pass anything that costs social safety nets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fahrenheit View Post
    I work for the Department of Energy's (DOE's) Office of Science at a National Laboratory, and while Congress, both the current Democrat controlled and the previous Republican controlled have told Trump to go pound sand in regards to his austerity budgets, I'd like a person in the WH who actually wants to push Science and Technology forward and not slash it back every year.
    I've said it for years we need more scientists and science minded people running for office and less lawyers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    Given how obviously compromised and implicit Devin Nunes is in various shit that has been/still is happening, why would anyone trust what he has to say?
    Oh, it's worse. The entire statement is based on a flawed premise, aka lying: Mueller's team did not apply for the FISA warrants.

    No-one is above the law.

  11. #36691
    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Oh, it's worse. The entire statement is based on a flawed premise, aka lying: Mueller's team did not apply for the FISA warrants.
    Pffft. Do you expect facts to get in the way of a republican's outrage?

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    Hope Hicks returning to Trump White House as senior adviser
    Hope Hicks, formerly President Donald Trump's most trusted and longest serving aide, is expected to return to the administration in the coming weeks, sources familiar with the matter tell ABC News.

    Hicks, who departed in early 2018, will return in the coming weeks as a senior adviser reporting to Jared Kushner, the president's son-in-law. Her official title will be counselor to the president.

    Since her departure, she has served as the head of communications for the Fox Corporation, the parent company of Fox News, among other entities owned by Rupert Murdoch.
    Anyone else find this a bit.... strange?

    Work for the President, despite having no political background, leave said job with President to go work for Fox. Later leave Fox to become an advisor for the President's son-in-law, still somehow have the title of "counselor to the president."

    Its like she's got one position from Trump, swapped to Fox to compare notes and organise the arguments to defend and get on the same page, then swapped back to Trump to make sure they co-ordinate with these same arguments later on.
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  13. #36693
    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    Hope Hicks returning to Trump White House as senior adviser

    Anyone else find this a bit.... strange?

    Work for the President, despite having no political background, leave said job with President to go work for Fox. Later leave Fox to become an advisor for the President's son-in-law, still somehow have the title of "counselor to the president."

    Its like she's go one position from Trump, swapped to Fox to compare notes and organise the arguments to defend and get on the same page, then swap back to Trump to make sure they co-ordinate with these same arguments later on.
    More than strange, I find it downright upsetting that there are so many unqualified individuals working in the White House and are able to gain experience like her. What exactly is she even advising anyway?
    The MF has been impeached. Now he needs to GTFO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by omerome View Post
    More than strange, I find it downright upsetting that there are so many unqualified individuals working in the White House and are able to gain experience like her. What exactly is she even advising anyway?
    Based on what the video in the article says her prior experience was, maybe she's helping Trump with his runway strut?

    She shouldn't be anywhere near such positions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    Anyone else find this a bit.... strange?
    No.

    Trump is out of competent people who want to work in his blatantly crooked, loyal to Trump over party and country organization. He's left recycling.

    No-one is above the law.

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    Didn't Trump give him another position before Chief of Staff? Sure doesn't sound like he wanted rid of him ASAP.

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    Might as well just leave this here, too

    Spoiler: 

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    Trump: I ONLY HIRE THE BEST PEOPLE!"

    Also Trump: THESE PEOPLE I HIRED WERE THE WORST AND THAT'S WHY I FIRED THEIR SORRY ASSES

    Everyone else: Wat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Levelfive View Post
    Apologies for quoting myself, but I did try to raise this alarm:
    So basically they want the world's governments to collapse and a third world war to hasten the return of "He who must not be named?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    So basically they want the world's governments to collapse and a third world war to hasten the return of "He who must not be named?"
    Basically. They think Haysus Crisco will come back if they encourage violence and disorder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    Didn't Trump give him another position before Chief of Staff? Sure doesn't sound like he wanted rid of him ASAP.

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    Might as well just leave this here, too

    Spoiler: 

    How can people follow this person. He sounds like some scorned teenager. "No, I never really liked you, so now I will talk bad about you". Trump speaks like a brat child making stuff up and acting as he was always in the right.

    I cannot believe you follow some 77 year old person who act like this. Why I can't take Trump cultists seriously.
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