1. #37621
    Quote Originally Posted by Trunksee View Post
    Yet if the corporations are not involved the country will go broke ultimately as there will be no reason for them to invest here if they dont have their hand in the cookie jar. Its a a sad inevitable truth but without them our country would fall apart.
    the problems with corporations is that they should benefit the country, rather than their selves.

    this is where, even though i plan to vote for trump, i starkly disagree with conservative policies. i truly actually believe in economic/civic nationalism, where trump only lied about believing in it. i think there should be regulatory increases, to force companies to put the american citizen first. whether it's only operating and hiring in america, or rules against catering to foreign markets over US citizens.

  2. #37622
    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    He says after proudly declaring he'll vote Trump again because Democrats make him angry....
    Only on a few things but i so strongly disagree on key points to me I accept the failing of the other over things i just cant come off of. They make me angry yes because i think a bunch of their policies are to self centered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    the problems with corporations is that they should benefit the country, rather than their selves.

    this is where, even though i plan to vote for trump, i starkly disagree with conservative policies. i truly actually believe in economic/civic nationalism, where trump only lied about believing in it. i think there should be regulatory increases, to force companies to put the american citizen first. whether it's only operating and hiring in america, or rules against catering to foreign markets over US citizens.
    Then we are a lot closer than i thought on ideals because im in the same boat i just see a very difficult path getting there. I dont think republican policies will get us to this point but i see democrat policies pulling us further away from it.

  3. #37623
    Quote Originally Posted by Trunksee View Post
    Yet if the corporations are not involved the country will go broke ultimately as there will be no reason for them to invest here if they dont have their hand in the cookie jar. Its a a sad inevitable truth but without them our country would fall apart.
    That is the wrong attitude to have, they cannot all just up and leave it is literally impossible.
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  4. #37624
    Quote Originally Posted by Trunksee View Post
    Ok im confused now. But i think both sides feel that way to a degree now because the 2 sides are so far apart on core issues.

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    Do you work in an industy thay has a lot of illegals working in it? Before i make i point i would like to know so i can word this the right way.
    Word it any way you like, it's all going to be a long-winded attack on capitalism.

    Make them all legal, problem solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    you can bring up dumbass bullshit from years ago as much as you want, but sometimes people have different ideals for reality vs. fantasy.

    i'd prefer to live in a world where tall, pointed-eared individuals are a master race and keep me as a house-servant. does that mean i want to enact that irl? no, because it's not feasible or possible. you need to understand that sometimes people talk about what they'd like, rather than what is actually possible.
    Pointing out that you are flat-out lying is a pretty damn good argument. You are whining that the Democrats may do something that YOU SUPPORT. Your hatred of the First Amendment was not only demonstrated with your fascist support of religious cleansing, but also forcing companies to platform people against their will.

    In the end, you are lying. There really is no way around it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unholyground View Post
    That is the wrong attitude to have, they cannot all just up and leave it is literally impossible.
    And even if they did, there are still people here right? People with skills? People who could start creating things, employing people, selling stuff, so on and so forth?

    Corporate dependency is a sad expression of the American dream. So many people can't understand that THEY have the skills to do the work and are not dependent on an employer to gift them with a job.
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  6. #37626
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    In the end, you are lying. There really is no way around it.
    i legit don't think you're capable of understanding fanciful thought.

    how did you even wind up on a wow forum if you can't understand fantasy? this isn't an insult to you, it's just i can't really comprehend how anyone can't understand having fantasies.

  7. #37627
    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    i legit don't think you're capable of understanding fanciful thought.

    how did you even wind up on a wow forum if you can't understand fantasy? this isn't an insult to you, it's just i can't really comprehend how anyone can't understand having fantasies.
    So, you don't actually want to force social media companies to platform people they don't want to platform?

    Interesting...
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.

  8. #37628
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Word it any way you like, it's all going to be a long-winded attack on capitalism.

    Make them all legal, problem solved.

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    Pointing out that you are flat-out lying is a pretty damn good argument. You are whining that the Democrats may do something that YOU SUPPORT. Your hatred of the First Amendment was not only demonstrated with your fascist support of religious cleansing, but also forcing companies to platform people against their will.

    In the end, you are lying. There really is no way around it.
    I have to ask how the problem is solved? You obviously dont work in the trades and have to deal with these people on a daily basis. There is a deep hatred for them when they take jobs in the trades at an extreme subpar rate. The fact that they already showed they are willing to break the law emboldens them to break safety rules and do things that endangers others. The companies care about the bottom line in a competitive industry. I cant blame them for doimg what they do. There are also the ones who commit fraud and use others ss numbers to obtain jobs because the country wont enforce everify. It has nothing to do with race buddy. Let me say this again IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE. They could be white people and i would feel the exact same way. They hurt the trade field immensely.

  9. #37629
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    So, you don't actually want to force social media companies to platform people they don't want to platform?

    Interesting...
    now that, i do.

    because that's in the interest of everyday americans.

  10. #37630
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunseeker View Post
    And even if they did, there are still people here right? People with skills? People who could start creating things, employing people, selling stuff, so on and so forth?

    Corporate dependency is a sad expression of the American dream. So many people can't understand that THEY have the skills to do the work and are not dependent on an employer to gift them with a job.
    I hate to burst your bubble but isnt the american dream to work your way up to get into one of these positions at some point in your life? At least thats what im striving for. Maybe at a smaller scale but isnt being the big fish the goal?

  11. #37631
    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    now that, i do.

    because that's in the interest of everyday americans.
    So, you hate the First Amendment, thanks for confirming it.

    Man, that was easy.

    Ironically, that's exactly why the Democrats are calling for gun control. Yes, you are exactly like them... except for that whole desire to physically assault anyone who has had sex with more than two people in a month, or forcefully end all religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trunksee View Post
    I have to ask how the problem is solved? You obviously dont work in the trades and have to deal with these people on a daily basis. There is a deep hatred for them when they take jobs in the trades at an extreme subpar rate. The fact that they already showed they are willing to break the law emboldens them to break safety rules and do things that endangers others. The companies care about the bottom line in a competitive industry. I cant blame them for doimg what they do. There are also the ones who commit fraud and use others ss numbers to obtain jobs because the country wont enforce everify. It has nothing to do with race buddy. Let me say this again IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE. They could be white people and i would feel the exact same way. They hurt the trade field immensely.
    The problem is solved by supporting capitalism, and not national socialism. Make them legal, problem solved.

    So, you don't like that they are willing to do the job for less, so you want the government to get involved, and control the marketplace... how odd. Hatred of liberty and capitalism is so sad...

    Maybe you should get better, and stop trying to use the government to attack your competitors. You big-government socialists are out of control.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.

  12. #37632
    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    now that, i do.

    because that's in the interest of everyday americans.
    So, you want to be authoritarian and force private companies to platform people like Lauren Southern? How about Alex Jones? Baked Alaska? You want the racism and conspiracy theories to spread? Not surprising. They are all Trump supporters and deserved their bans from places like Twitter.

  13. #37633
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    So, you hate the First Amendment, thanks for confirming it.

    Man, that was easy.

    Ironically, that's exactly why the Democrats are calling for gun control. Yes, you are exactly like them... except for that whole desire to physically assault anyone who has had sex with more than two people in a month, or forcefully end all religion.
    Actually private companies have the right to censor people using their platforms. Free speech isnt protected anywhere you go. As using social media is using someone elses property they have the right to control it as it is their personal property.

  14. #37634
    Quote Originally Posted by Trunksee View Post
    Actually private companies have the right to censor people using their platforms. Free speech isnt protected anywhere you go. As using social media is using someone elses property they have the right to control it as it is their personal property.
    Tell that to Derpkitteh, he/she is the one who wants to take away their First Amendment rights.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.

  15. #37635
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    So, you hate the First Amendment, thanks for confirming it.
    i hate the idea that companies should be allowed to subvert the ideals of the nation at their own ideological/self interest.

    you have to separate the ideas of business. there's corporate entities and there's small business. small business should, in general, be left alone for the most part. but if they morph into a corporate entity, they need to have tighter controls to serve the public interest.

    i've said before i have my own problems with constitution. but only because in some cases it can lead to restrictions of freedoms that the constitution itself decrees. businesses are not people, and should be exempt from constitutional protection for the most part.

  16. #37636
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Tell that to Derpkitteh, he/she is the one who wants to take away their First Amendment rights.
    Yep, if Twitter, Facebook, Google, or any other social media company wanted to, tomorrow they could shut off their servers and ban everyone if they wanted to. Hell, Curse or whoever owns MMO-Champion now, could ban every single one of us right now, and we can't say anything about it.

  17. #37637
    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    i hate the idea that companies should be allowed to subvert the ideals of the nation at their own ideological/self interest.

    you have to separate the ideas of business. there's corporate entities and there's small business. small business should, in general, be left alone for the most part. but if they morph into a corporate entity, they need to have tighter controls to serve the public interest.

    i've said before i have my own problems with constitution. but only because in some cases it can lead to restrictions of freedoms that the constitution itself decrees. businesses are not people, and should be exempt from constitutional protection for the most part.
    Like I said, you oppose the First Amendment, just like Democrats and Trump oppose the First and Second Amendments.

    You are literally one of those people who wants to restrict freedoms... the irony is getting out of hand.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.

  18. #37638
    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    So, you want to be authoritarian and force private companies to platform people like Lauren Southern? How about Alex Jones? Baked Alaska? You want the racism and conspiracy theories to spread? Not surprising. They are all Trump supporters and deserved their bans from places like Twitter.
    black israelites, white nationalists, lauren southern, whoever really.

    everyone.

  19. #37639
    Quote Originally Posted by Trunksee View Post
    Actually private companies have the right to censor people using their platforms. Free speech isnt protected anywhere you go. As using social media is using someone elses property they have the right to control it as it is their personal property.
    And you want everyone to do whatever they want and believe whatever they want to all live in harmony... What a joke. This has been tried throught history but was forced on people. If to many different cultures attempt to live together in any society the society eventually crumbles leaving divided nations based on their beliefs. Look at any large empire who tried to bring to many different cultures together. They all eventually imploded.

  20. #37640
    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    Yep, if Twitter, Facebook, Google, or any other social media company wanted to, tomorrow they could shut off their servers and ban everyone if they wanted to. Hell, Curse or whoever owns MMO-Champion now, could ban every single one of us right now, and we can't say anything about it.
    Precisely. They have freedom of speech and freedom of association. It's their property.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.

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