Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[D Luniz]

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1...154893825?s=19

What a clown.

Linked is the video of him pulling the paper out of his jacket on the dead with Mexico. The 'agreement' is a single piece of paper, which to me seems no type or written words. The reporters asked to see it, but wouldn't you know he declined to show it.

so thin light shines through it, yet there doesnt seem to be anything typed on it.

[Breccia]

"Venezuela is a bad place," Trump didn't say but I'm pretending he did, "so I'm allowing refugees from Venezuela Temporary Protected Status, letting them come to our great country until theirs is no longer a shithole."

There was silence from the crowd.

"What?" Trump asked. "I have always been for allowing refugees into the US. Bigly."

There was continued silence from the crowd.

"I don't get it," Trump said aside to What He Meant Was. "Taking in refugees is one of the biggest American things ever. Why aren't they smiling and clapping their hands?"

"Well for one," WHMW said, "I think most sentient life forms on Earth know you've been trying to block and remove refugees from coming to this country, especially Hispanic ones, since Day One."

"That doesn't sound like me," Trump said. "I'm very open to the most downtrodden members of society. Ask anyone in the crowd," he gestured.

"And for two," WHMW continued, ignoring him, "that's a picture of Obama's inauguration speech. You haven't had a press conference in eight hundred forty-five days."

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So the Defense Secretary --

"He doesn't exist."

Okay, but the acting Defense Secretary --

"He might not exist either."

What?

"Sources tell NBC News that Trump is reconsidering Shanahan, an office executive whose only military experience is the five months as acting Secretary. He asked multiple people for their opinions, and names to replace him."

Huh. What's the issue? Is it the black eye of the 737?

"Maybe. Or it could be he's questioning Trump's military moves, such as troops to the border or Iran. Those would have to be private, however, as Shanahan has toes the Team Trump line on both those issues. The only thing he's been vocal about is the USS McCain, but Trump didn't go on a Trumper Tantrum about that. For all we know, Shanahan refused to put goddam steam on American warships in the 21st fucking century. But as we've seen before, the time between 'Trump is looking for options' and 'Trump fires a guy' is a matter of months."

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Measles cases continuing to rise, casting doubt on "eradicated" label.

1,022 at time of writing. This is the highest since 1992, whose total for the year is 2,196.

"Oh, at least Trump's tally doesn't top that year."

Actually...

"Oh shit."

Yeah. Now, before I start, I don't think this will happen, but, what if we extend the current cases-per-day until Dec 31st, that would be 2274.

I've been bitten by this before, but, those new cases are going to slow down eventually. But if I'm wrong again...1990-1992 wasn't a great time for the measles. There's a reason you get a second shot. Not even an anti-vaxxer Trump in charge can top those numbers, and he's publicly asked people to get vaccinated.

[PACOX]

Mexico deal...sounds a lot like the NK deal in terms of gains.

Its like he doesn't see us making all this bullshit up.

Its the, "I totally have a girlfriend but she goes to another school" lie that one kid used to tell in grade school.

Now Trump has to triple down on that lie. I'm interested to see what he comes up with to get out of it.

[Dontrike]

Oh, cute. I see we got a "PRESIDENTIAL HARASSMENT!" tweet yesterday. Maybe one day it'll be true.

You get a nostalgic feeling when you read the classics.

[Thekri]

Everything nuclear, from nukes to power plants to nuclear-powered space engines (and non-space ones too).

Mostly because US effectively withdrawn from business (with Westinghouse going bankrupt), Germany dropped entirely, Japanese have their problems after Fukushima, Chinese are building primarily for themselves, and the only real competitor is French Areva (and we generally beat them in financing options).

Building new nuclear stuff or maintaining the stuff you already built? Because old Russian nuclear tech is an ongoing disaster. From your nuclear submarines rusting in port (Or contaminating the bottom of the ocean after they sank), old Russian reactors that can't be safely decommissioned, Nuclear missiles that the US had to help you disassemble, Nuclear weapons that you lost...

Even the new tech you pointed out is purely theoretical, and even the articles you posted are rather skeptical as to if they would work. That isn't even considering the absolutely disaster environmental effects of doing so. It isn't even new tech at all, it is a rehash of old nuclear tech that got abandoned. There is a very good reason the rest of the world is abandoning nuclear tech, clinging to it isn't a good thing.

[Breccia]

In order to conceal the motivation for the census citizenship question, Trump takes the advice of his personal attorney Barr and declared executive privilege.

Basically, this means that the WH gets to ignore subpoenas because reasons. It's like National Security Lol, except it's the same thing.

While the listed reason was that the House was pushing for a contempt vote before the WH had a chance to turn anything over, they had over a year.

[Paranoid Android]

In order to conceal the motivation for the census citizenship question, Trump takes the advice of his personal attorney Barr and declared executive privilege.

Basically, this means that the WH gets to ignore subpoenas because reasons. It's like National Security Lol, except it's the same thing.

While the listed reason was that the House was pushing for a contempt vote before the WH had a chance to turn anything over, they had over a year.

This is a 'You have to be kidding me' moment. First no idea how Executive Privilege works here and second I don't understand the DOJ, aka Barr, advising Trump on this.

[Noxx79]

This is a 'You have to be kidding me' moment. First no idea how Executive Privilege works here and second I don't understand the DOJ, aka Barr, advising Trump on this.

If anything comes out of all this that’s positive, at minimum it’s going to be a long list of court rulings clarifying exactly what powers the president has that are unquestionable.

[Paranoid Android]

So umm...This is such a shitshow that nobody posted this fairly HUGE story.

Trump publicly opposes using CIA informants against North Korea's Kim

So this is a story of Kin Jun half-brother was supposedly a CIA Informant, thus Trump said it would never happen under his watch.

WTF! So Trump is against having a source to one of the most tyrannical leaders in the world. He again, goes against his own intelligence community.


Oh and just now:

President Trump on Kim Jong Un: "He just wrote me a very nice letter. Unexpected, and someday you'll see what was in that letter. Someday you'll be reading about it. Maybe in 100 years from now, maybe in two weeks. Who knows." http://hill.cm/cJlGyal

.@kwelkernbc asks Trump if he meant to say yesterday that the U.S. will not be spying on North Korea.

Trump: "No. it's not what I meant. It's what I said."

https://twitter.com/EliStokols/statu...764453376?s=19

WTF is that quote?

[zorkuus]

WTF is that quote?

Don't mind him. He just isn't a very smart guy.

[Paranoid Android]

The gift that keeps giving. This is some great material here folks.

one of my favorite moments in archival CNN footage was Trump asked his favorite author on Crossfire in the 1980s




So basic question of his favorite author and Trump mentions someone he has likely heard on tv or in the social scene to impress that he is well read. Then like any flim-flam man he starts pitching his book cause that's all he knows.

In the end of course he gets caught in his own lies and shows that a) Trump doesn't read and b) He just tries to bullshit his way through a conversation.

[Shadowferal]

The gift that keeps giving. This is some great material here folks. one of my favorite moments in archival CNN footage was Trump asked his favorite author on Crossfire in the 1980s So basic question of his favorite author and Trump mentions someone he has likely heard on tv or in the social scene to impress that he is well read. Then like any flim-flam man he starts pitching his book cause that's all he knows. In the end of course he gets caught in his own lies and shows that a) Trump doesn't read and b) He just tries to bullshit his way through a conversation.

I wonder if they were deliberately kicking him by mentioning that particular book. (Not that Trump would ever realize just what "The Bonfire of the Vanities" was about")

[rogueMatthias]

So this is a story of Kin Jun half-brother was supposedly a CIA Informant, thus Trump said it would never happen under his watch.

WTF! So Trump is against having a source to one of the most tyrannical leaders in the world. He again, goes against his own intelligence community.

Not really much of a story though. He's just trying to publicly cozey up to Kim. I highly doubt it would make any difference to whether they're actually spying on him. TBH, I'd pull any CIA informants out of there anyway, but more because they might end up in prison or fed to piranhas for writing up a memo wrongly.

In the end of course he gets caught in his own lies and shows that a) Trump doesn't read and b) He just tries to bullshit his way through a conversation.

LOL that he can't even name ANY book at all to be the one he's been reading. Not even joking here, but there's something about how he "ignores" or talks around questions or answers them with answers to different questions, that genuinely makes me believe he's partially deaf.

[cubby]

So umm...This is such a shitshow that nobody posted this fairly HUGE story.

Trump publicly opposes using CIA informants against North Korea's Kim

So this is a story of Kin Jun half-brother was supposedly a CIA Informant, thus Trump said it would never happen under his watch.

WTF! So Trump is against having a source to one of the most tyrannical leaders in the world. He again, goes against his own intelligence community.


Oh and just now:

President Trump on Kim Jong Un: "He just wrote me a very nice letter. Unexpected, and someday you'll see what was in that letter. Someday you'll be reading about it. Maybe in 100 years from now, maybe in two weeks. Who knows." http://hill.cm/cJlGyal



https://twitter.com/EliStokols/statu...764453376?s=19

WTF is that quote?

At this point I have to wonder if he's making a play for post-Residency insanity plea-deal to stay out of jail. That is next-gen fucking insane what's he's saying - both the substance of and the literalness of his words.

[Elegiac]

At this point I have to wonder if he's making a play for post-Residency insanity plea-deal to stay out of jail. That is next-gen fucking insane what's he's saying - both the substance of and the literalness of his words.

Fortunately we have a White House doctor going on record as saying that President Individual-1 is in perfect mental health.

[some guy]

Don't forgot the bestest memory. He also knows all the words.

[Paranoid Android]

EXCLUSIVE: Pres. Trump tells @GStephanopoulos he wouldn't necessarily alert the FBI if approached by foreign figures with information on his 2020 opponent: "It’s not an interference. They have information. I think I’d take it." https://t.co/7gvoAViw9r https://t.co/k5Yqd9YxdC

https://twitter.com/evanmcmurry/stat...435591681?s=19

OMFG! This guy just admitted he would take information from a foreign government. The one thing he claims he didn't do with Russia.

Video is in link of upcoming Stephanopoulos interview.

Excerpts from this interview is coming in hot.

"The FBI director is wrong," @realDonaldTrump tells @GStephanopoulos of Wray's recent comments that a political candidate should tell the FBI if a foreign gov't offers dirt on an opponent.

https://twitter.com/ElizLanders/stat...980778498?s=19

Once again undermining our law enforcement.

[Dontrike]

Fortunately we have a White House doctor going on record as saying that President Individual-1 is in perfect mental health.

And the president on record saying he's a "stable genius" and an "extremely stable genius".

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https://twitter.com/evanmcmurry/stat...435591681?s=19

OMFG! This guy just admitted he would take information from a foreign government. The one thing he claims he didn't do with Russia.

Video is in link of upcoming Stephanopoulos interview.

Excerpts from this interview is coming in hot.



https://twitter.com/ElizLanders/stat...980778498?s=19

Once again undermining our law enforcement.

Trump and the law work about as well together as snails and salt.

It's really no surprised that Trump is okay with getting foreign aid at any time, since he got some already from Russia and wants more from Saudi, and that he is at odds with his intelligence community, he doesn't like intelligence.

[Shalcker]

Building new nuclear stuff or maintaining the stuff you already built?

Plenty of new stuff being built.

Because old Russian nuclear tech is an ongoing disaster. From your nuclear submarines rusting in port (Or contaminating the bottom of the ocean after they sank), old Russian reactors that can't be safely decommissioned, Nuclear missiles that the US had to help you disassemble, Nuclear weapons that you lost...

That is all quite old news.

Not sure about what loss you're talking about specifically though; and "help disassemble" thing was because hey, if US offered to pay for it why would we refuse?

Even the new tech you pointed out is purely theoretical, and even the articles you posted are rather skeptical as to if they would work.

Nope, for space engine parts of the system are undergoing trials (successful, so far), and nuclear powered cruise missile is already flying and being tested.

That isn't even considering the absolutely disaster environmental effects of doing so.

No disaster at all, entire thing is closed, there are no contamination in flight.

It isn't even new tech at all, it is a rehash of old nuclear tech that got abandoned. There is a very good reason the rest of the world is abandoning nuclear tech, clinging to it isn't a good thing.

Sadly, most of the world abandoned nuclear tech for very wrong reasons.

[Zaydin]

https://twitter.com/evanmcmurry/stat...435591681?s=19

OMFG! This guy just admitted he would take information from a foreign government. The one thing he claims he didn't do with Russia.

Video is in link of upcoming Stephanopoulos interview.

Excerpts from this interview is coming in hot.



https://twitter.com/ElizLanders/stat...980778498?s=19

Once again undermining our law enforcement.

Donald Trump and his cultist supporters are traitors to America.

Though I guess Trump will stop bitching about the Steele dossier now since he thinks there isn't anything wrong with getting 'research' from foreigners. /s