Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Demolitia]

Yeah okay.

I mean we're at the point Donald Trump clearly used his office to betray his country's interests and advance his own, and you're still not taking it seriously.

Given that the basis of Trump's support is White Supremacy, I just need to say, you must REALLY hate blacks and latinos. Because good lord. Donald Trump sells us out - big time national security issue - and you still defend him.

Like holy fuck, what does this that motherfucker have to do?

Time for a deepfake video of Trump getting humped by a black guy ?

[Skroe]

I mean you've said yourself that Trump's base needs to be written off as irredeemable for the time being, and there's a reason for that.

What we're looking at is the end result of decades of being drip fed media explicitly designed to simultaneously stoke distrust of academic and political institutions while at the same time making it easy to channel that energy into whatever cause is required no matter how despicable or contrary to the interests of its supporters it is. This administration is just reaping the rotten crops sown by men like Roger Ailes, Karl Rove, and Rupert Murdoch; an appropriate analogy, I think, since in their greed to enrich themselves they run the risk of destroying the field entirely.

To put it more simply, I'll leave it to Valery Legasov in Chernobyl:

"What is the cost of lies? It's not that we'll mistake them for the truth. The real danger is that if we hear enough lies, then we no longer recognize the truth at all."

Oh it's more a statement of amazement than anything.

I truly believe that Trump Supporters, including every one in this forum, would have no problem with the US under suzerainty of Vladimir Putin, or Xi Jinping, or wheover else would help their side win, so long as they got to remain in charge of the ruin of the once great American Empire.

It's absolutely insane. Republicans in the 1980s and even into the 1990s and early 2000s were, like Democrats, stalwarts of American institutions and power when it came to foreign affairs. We'd fight like cats and dogs at home, but we'd do a fusion dance and break foreign jaws if we had do.

But these modern Republicans are so hung up in the things that progressives do that tick them all, and the culture wars, and frankly, their deep hatred of minorities, that they just don't care about that anymore. They want their little White Backwards Kingdom... to hell about America's place in the world. To hell if other countries meddle with us.

As I said... amazing. And insane.

[Orbitus]

Barr will not have to recuse himself as the Justice Department explicitly stated that Trump never spoke with Barr “about having Ukraine investigate anything relating to former Vice President Biden or his son” or asked him to contact Ukraine “on this or any other matter”. It also states that Barr has not communicated with Ukraine at all.

But in addition to the above, the statement also contains the following interesting comment:

“A Department of Justice team led by U.S. Attorney John Durham is separately exploring the extent to which a number of countries, including Ukraine, played a role in the counterintelligence investigation directed at the Trump campaign during the 2016 election. While the Attorney General has yet to contact Ukraine in connection with this investigation, certain Ukrainians who are not members of the government have volunteered information to Mr. Durham, which he is evaluating.”

Makes one wonder just how deep this rabbit hole goes.

If he doesn't, and keeps going with this, he deserves to be removed as Attorney General and take the cell next to Trump, after he should be impeached.

[Skroe]

Time for a deepfake video of Trump getting humped by a black guy ?

Wouldn't even work.

Hell, if Donald Trump got caught with a 15 year old sex slave, they'd go "well she looked 18. Doesn't she look 18? I'd do her. She looks 18. Oh and she clearly wanted it".

Their hypocrisy, decadence and depravity knows no depths.

[Breccia]

It gets better

I mean, I think we all assumed Pompeo was involved. It would actually be worse if he wasn't. Ukraine is a different country, and LMAT and such need to go through them anyhow. Plus, Giuliani says he was documented by the State Dept. Still waiting on that, btw. If he's telling the truth, Pompeo is a co-conspirator. If he's not, he has nobody to shield him.

[Zan15]

if trump starts a civil war which side will you take? Earth or Damnation?

hhmmm, do we get to hang with emma Watson and see a devil with a 50 foot penis destroying the world???

[Orbitus]

Since Adam Schiff thinks it's a joke...I might as well too. Every circus needs a clown I guess.

That is what you got out of it? He was paraphrasing Trump, so you should be saying that Trump is the joke. But not really surprising you are defending the Traitor-in-chief.

[Demolitia]

Wouldn't even work.

Hell, if Donald Trump got caught with a 15 year old sex slave, they'd go "well she looked 18. Doesn't she look 18? I'd do her. She looks 18. Oh and she clearly wanted it".

Their hypocrisy, decadence and depravity knows no depths.

"It's a very tan Ben Kingsley" felt like a stretch before but trumpkins keep surprising me. I guess you might be right.
Well then. Good luck dealing with your rotten orange. I'll pop back to the EU side.

[Orbitus]

I thought the Mueller report was "total vindication" for Trunp?

So why does he need help in discrediting it? And why Australia?

Australia is where the Report started thanks to drunk Papadopolous.

[Elegiac]

Oh it's more a statement of amazement than anything.

I truly believe that Trump Supporters, including every one in this forum, would have no problem with the US under suzerainty of Vladimir Putin, or Xi Jinping, or wheover else would help their side win, so long as they got to remain in charge of the ruin of the once great American Empire.

It's absolutely insane. Republicans in the 1980s and even into the 1990s and early 2000s were, like Democrats, stalwarts of American institutions and power when it came to foreign affairs. We'd fight like cats and dogs at home, but we'd do a fusion dance and break foreign jaws if we had do.

But these modern Republicans are so hung up in the things that progressives do that tick them all, and the culture wars, and frankly, their deep hatred of minorities, that they just don't care about that anymore. They want their little White Backwards Kingdom... to hell about America's place in the world. To hell if other countries meddle with us.

As I said... amazing. And insane.

See also: Brexit. Probably the most cancerous manifestation of this brand of right wing politics, and fairly telling that while the other three major anglophone countries have also been subjected to the tide of propaganda only the UK is anywhere near risk of imminent disintegration.

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Wouldn't even work.

Hell, if Donald Trump got caught with a 15 year old sex slave, they'd go "well she looked 18. Doesn't she look 18? I'd do her. She looks 18. Oh and she clearly wanted it".

Their hypocrisy, decadence and depravity knows no depths.

I'd like to submit for the court's review and disgust that Greta Thunberg's climate activism is being used as a defense of Epstein's pedophilia in right wing circles since, to paraphrase, "if a sixteen year old can make a decision about climate activism they can make a decision about sex".

So, right on the money. There is no sin save what the Party deems to be one.

[Somewhatconcerned]

See also: Brexit. Probably the most cancerous manifestation of this brand of right wing politics, and fairly telling that while the other three major anglophone countries have also been subjected to the tide of propaganda only the UK is anywhere near risk of imminent disintegration.

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I'd like to submit for the court's review and disgust that Greta Thunberg's climate activism is being used as a defense of Epstein's pedophilia in right wing circles since, to paraphrase, "if a sixteen year old can make a decision about climate activism they can make a decision about sex".

So, right on the money. There is no sin save what the Party deems to be one.

Yikes, is that what they're really saying, re: Thunberg?

[nonameelf]

Yikes, is that what they're really saying, re: Thunberg?

The one I saw it from was a Libertarian so there were no surprises there.

[Skroe]

"It's a very tan Ben Kingsley" felt like a stretch before but trumpkins keep surprising me. I guess you might be right.
Well then. Good luck dealing with your rotten orange. I'll pop back to the EU side.

It's taking some time, but we're getting there.

If nothing else, we've broken his power. He has no domestic agenda, and due to the fact he's a geopolitical Chernobyl now, no foreign leader is going to touch him.

What's a President who can't be Presidenting? Nothing really...

I mean that's kind of the irony of the Trumphadi position. At this point, they're just pulling for him to be a squatter in the White House.

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I'd like to submit for the court's review and disgust that Greta Thunberg's climate activism is being used as a defense of Epstein's pedophilia in right wing circles since, to paraphrase, "if a sixteen year old can make a decision about climate activism they can make a decision about sex".

So, right on the money. There is no sin save what the Party deems to be one.

That's so gross.

[Elegiac]

Yikes, is that what they're really saying, re: Thunberg?

In case anyone still doubted exactly what sort of people we are dealing with.

[Skroe]

In case anyone still doubted exactly what sort of people we are dealing with.

He honors his father and mother with those tweets.

White Trash with a twitter account.

[zorkuus]

In case anyone still doubted exactly what sort of people we are dealing with.

These folks must've lost a bet or something... who can say the dumbest shit.

[kaelleria]

Attorney General Barr personally asked foreign officials to aid inquiry into CIA, FBI activities in 2016

Attorney General William P. Barr has held private meetings overseas with foreign intelligence officials seeking their help in a Justice Department inquiry that President Trump hopes will discredit U.S. intelligence agencies’ examination of Russian interference in the 2016 election, according to people familiar with the matter.

Barr’s personal involvement is likely to stoke further criticism from Democrats pursuing impeachment that he is helping the Trump administration use executive branch powers to augment investigations aimed primarily at the president’s adversaries.

But the high level Justice Department focus on intelligence operatives’ conduct will likely cheer Trump and other conservatives for whom “investigate the investigators” has become a rallying cry.

The direct involvement of the nation’s top law enforcement official shows the priority Barr places on the investigation being conducted by John Durham, the U.S. attorney in Connecticut, who has been assigned the sensitive task of reviewing U.S. intelligence work surrounding the 2016 election and its aftermath.

The attorney general’s active role also underscores the degree to which a nearly three-year old election still consumes significant resources and attention inside the federal government. Current and former intelligence and law enforcement officials expressed frustration and alarm Monday that the head of the Justice Department was taking such a direct role in re-examining what they view as conspiracy theories and baseless allegations of misconduct.

Barr has already made overtures to British intelligence officials, and last week the attorney general traveled to Italy, where he and Durham met senior Italian government officials and Barr asked the Italians to assist Durham, according to one person familiar with the matter. It was not Barr’s first trip to Italy to meet intelligence officials, the person said. The Trump administration has made similar requests of Australia, these people said.

A Justice Department spokeswoman declined to comment.

The president still complains frequently that those involved in the investigation of his campaign should be charged with crimes, asserting the FBI search for possible election season collusion between Russia and Trump campaign officials was a witch hunt, spurred by agents and bureaucrats opposed to Trump becoming president. That investigation ended earlier this year when special counsel Robert S. Mueller III determined there was insufficient evidence to charge any Americans with conspiring with Russia, and declined to reach a decision about whether the president had sought to obstruct justice.

David Laufman, a former Justice Department official who was involved in the early stages of the Russia probe, said it was “fairly unorthodox for the attorney general personally to be flying around the world as a point person to further evidence-gathering for a specific Justice Department investigation,” and especially so in Barr’s case.

“Even if one questions, as a threshold matter, the propriety of conducting a re-investigation of the Justice Department’s own prior investigation of Russia’s interference, the appointment of John Durham — a seasoned, nonpartisan prosecutor — provided some reason to believe that it would be handled in a professional, nonpartisan manner,” Laufman said. “But if the attorney general is essentially running this investigation, that entire premise is out the window.”

I have no words....

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[zorkuus]

It's treason then.

[Elegiac]

I have no words....

Oh, I have one.

[Demolitia]

It's taking some time, but we're getting there.

If nothing else, we've broken his power. He has no domestic agenda, and due to the fact he's a geopolitical Chernobyl now, no foreign leader is going to touch him.

What's a President who can't be Presidenting? Nothing really...

I mean that's kind of the irony of the Trumphadi position. At this point, they're just pulling for him to be a squatter in the White House.

It's not just Trump. McConnell seemed to indicated that should/once impeachment passes in congress, he'd do his best to run the clock. There is some serious rot there.
Whenever Trump's shit gets a pass for political reason it sets a precedent of normalcy. Your only salvation and hope for the future is the 2 terms limit which allows you to wait him out. That's pretty week.

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Oh, I have one.

DO SOMETHING!