Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Zaydin]

Seems the house of cards is starting to come down on the Trump criminal enterprise.

[Elegiac]

It's not just Trump. McConnell seemed to indicated that should/once impeachment passes in congress, he'd do his best to run the clock. There is some serious rot there.
Whenever Trump's shit gets a pass for political reason it sets a precedent of normalcy. Your only salvation and hope for the future is the 2 terms limit which allows you to wait him out. That's pretty week.

Running the clock isn't exactly an ideal strategy here, as others have pointed out, namely because we are entering an election year.

So pushing the investigation right into said election means that the headlines aren't going to be filled with Trump's white supremacist campaign promises, but a stream of leaks and declassifications that give nothing but the image of a corrupt, greedy gremlin who defaulted into power.

The stars seemed to have aligned in terms of timing, the indisputability of how bad Trump's actions look to everyone rather than just Democrats or Never Trumpers, and having a House majority willing to pursue the leads.

[Shadowferal]

'Tis the season for treason.

[Kallisto]

In case anyone still doubted exactly what sort of people we are dealing with.

Ok I have two questions.

1) Who is this idiot

and

2) Why do I feel my ignorance of who he is will put me in a better state of being than knowing who he is?

[Elegiac]

Considering all the other laws Trump has broken and gotten away with, what makes you think he wouldn't break the 2 term limit law? Especially since he already suggested doing just that.

Trump isn't popular or competent enough (i.e. not FDR) to pull it off.

He doesn't even need to concede defeat in the election. Once his legal term of office runs out and his successor sworn in, he stops being President of the United States - and then becomes a private citizen trespassing in the White House.

If he had the backing of every government agency, the military, and a much larger base of highly activist (and urban) support, maybe. But given how he is toxic and despised by the majority of the country...Not a chance.

[D Luniz]

I believe we've already seen that the GOP is throwing money at Texas, scared they'll lose it.

The GOP is correct.

Texas has taken a beating during Trump's tenure. They took a hurricane, which isn't great. They also do a lot of agribusiness, that's in trouble. They have an underappreciated manufacturing base, that's in trouble. They do a lot of business with Mexico, that's being directly threatened. And of course, mass shootings. Plural.

The GOP needs to play defense on Texas, not necessarily to protect Trump, but to protect its House and Senate seats. There's every reason to believe Democratic candidates will simply say "So, who made more money total in 2019 than 2017? What, nobody? Well, shit! Sounds like you guys need more than paper towels thrown at you!"

Also, it's time again for Guess the Speaker!



In light of the GOP losing two members today (Collins and Thornberry), I thought it fair to quote Flake who also resigned rather than remain an active Republican.

the other thing is that, as Ghostpanther pointed out, companies are moving from blue states to Texas for the lower tax rate, (normally in the form of 10-20 year tax holidays), but what he and other GOP backers crowing this tend to ignore is they are bringing their employees with them and their politics as well.

[Elegiac]

the other thing is that, as Ghostpanther pointed out, companies are moving from blue states to Texas for the lower tax rate, (normally in the form of 10-20 year tax holidays), but what he and other GOP backers crowing this tend to ignore is they are bringing their employees with them and their politics as well.

Even discounting where said employees come from, Texas' growth is all in urban areas which are known to lean more to the left.

They're literally crowing about a phenomenon which might one day ensure the Democratic Party is undefeatable by virtue of having both Texas and California in play.

[cubby]

'Tis the season for treason.

We need to set up a website with all these great catch phrases. Found one earlier: Desperation is Threat Level Orange.

[TheramoreIsTheBomb]

Trump's civil war will be him trying to fight the men in white coats who've come to put a straightjacket on him.

or in white coats because Trump is trying so hard and doing a damn good job at trying to be the 100% definition of the Anti-Christ.

[Demolitia]

Considering all the other laws Trump has broken and gotten away with, what makes you think he wouldn't break the 2 term limit law? Especially since he already suggested doing just that.

Can he make himself God-Emperor for life by executive order ? (genuine question, I hope not but am too lazy to look it up)

[TheramoreIsTheBomb]

It's treason then.

*Flies through air*
*Bing Bing Bong Bong*

[nonameelf]

Can he make himself God-Emperor for life by executive order ? (genuine question, I hope not but am too lazy to look it up)

Legally? No. But who's going to stop him?

[cubby]

Clinton is doing a very nice job of quietly trolling Trump. It's Hillarious.

[Templar 331]

I have no words....

I don't have enough popcorn!! This is like final season of GoT here! Who's getting burn by the dragon next!?!?!

So could this be the reason Mueller rapped up early this year and not continued?

[Elegiac]

Legally? No. But who's going to stop him?

The better question is who is going to fight for him.

McConnell and the rest are facile because they have the luxury of doing so - it costs them nothing to simply do nothing. Actually helping Trump keep office despite losing an election or having run out his term limit? That involves a lot of effort and a huge amount of risk for very little potential reward.

The US isn't Weimar Germany.

[Edge-]

https://www.bozemandailychronicle.co...28e7c7074.html

What is the Republican party doing in the midst of all this shit?

Not much, just sending out fake Census-lookalike soliciting donations and trying to dupe people.

[Demolitia]

Running the clock isn't exactly an ideal strategy here, as others have pointed out, namely because we are entering an election year.

So pushing the investigation right into said election means that the headlines aren't going to be filled with Trump's white supremacist campaign promises, but a stream of leaks and declassifications that give nothing but the image of a corrupt, greedy gremlin who defaulted into power.

The stars seemed to have aligned in terms of timing, the indisputability of how bad Trump's actions look to everyone rather than just Democrats or Never Trumpers, and having a House majority willing to pursue the leads.

I wasn't saying it's a good or bad strategy. I'm just saying that all the shit that has been going on should have raised a lot of red flags, whether any of it is true or not, no party should ride the wave of somebody so toxic and potentially damaging.
I've never had much understanding for republicans but they had commitment to their country's position, external policies and influence in the world. Trump is the Antichrist to everything they have ever stood for.
They should get rid of this roadkill-wigged clown, lick their wounds, sort their shit out, get rid of McConnell for gross incompetence, and come back in the next election or the one after that with a sensible candidate.

[TheramoreIsTheBomb]

Legally? No. But who's going to stop him?

"I am proposing something huge, really huge and a beautiful and peaceful resolution to stop all of this. I am leaving the office of the President of the United States to become God-Emperor of the World. Really big things are gonna happen. We're gonna get a lot of things done this way and the fake news and democrats cannot interfere this time."

[Forogil]

In case anyone still doubted exactly what sort of people we are dealing with.

So, he is not provocative, he merely implies that all of the victims were willing, and at least 16-years old (the earliest report was of a 14-year old victim), and even that buying sex is legal in the relevant jurisdiction.

I wonder what he writes when he is being provocative.

[Elegiac]

I wasn't saying it's a good or bad strategy. I'm just saying that all the shit that has been going on should have raised a lot of red flags, whether any of it is true or not, no party should ride the wave of somebody so toxic and potentially damaging.
I've never had much understanding for republicans but they had commitment to their country's position, external policies and influence in the world. Trump is the Antichrist to everything they have ever stood for.
They should get rid of this roadkill-wigged clown, lick their wounds, sort their shit out, get rid of McConnell for gross incompetence, and come back in the next election or the one after that with a sensible candidate.

They won't. We've all seen Priebus' memo about the GOP needing to ditch the bigotry and try to sell fiscal conservatism to a broader, more multicultural demographic. That was in 2012, and here we are.

The Republican Party had its chance to get its act together and chose to double down on becoming the party of evangelical white supremacists and failed. All we can do at this point is keep beating it down until a more moderate right wing party emerges to replace it.