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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelinrah View Post
    Fleeing the country?
    Spending time with his family?
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    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    Spending time with his family?
    I’d guess the government’s Trump is asking favors from, are not returning in kind. They are not confirming his conspiracy theories. Assuming Gorka is a conspiracy theorist... he could be seeking leads these governments refuse to help with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    Spending time with his family?
    Going to join his friends in the Nazi group he is part of?

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    Pompeo is running...
    “But this isn’t the end. I promise you, this is not the end, and we have to regroup and we have to continue to fight and continue to work day in and day out to create the better society for our children, for this world, for this country, that we know is possible.” ~~Jon Stewart

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    That’s likely the source of their conspiracy theory. They are likely exploring his leads... I don’t know who this guy is... but... I can guess.
    Former national security advisor whose own professor said he had no fucking business working at the White House.

    He was also denied a government position in Hungary due to his ties with neo-Nazi groups.

    Oh yeah, and he has an outstanding warrant in Hungary for firearms related charges.

    And he's a piece of garbage human being.

    Really, everything you need to know about him can be stated in this image of him with his hilarious custom license plate



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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Pompeo is running...
    ...meaning? Running from? Running to? Running for what?

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    Some more good news for Trump.....https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/...auto-companies

    President Trump on Monday touted a host of new investments in the U.S. worth billions of dollars.

    One of the investments is a $4 billion joint venture on behalf of Hyundai, Kia and Aptiv to develop autonomous driving technologies, which the president noted would bring a lot of “great jobs” back to America.

    The companies said last week that the driving platform would be available for robotaxi providers and automotive manufacturers in 2022.

    Additionally, Trump said Navistar, a leading manufacturer of trucks and buses, would be building a $250 million truck factory in San Antonio, Texas – bringing an additional 600 jobs.


    Trump also mentioned – as previously reported by FOX Business – that tech giant Apple will build its new Mac Pro in Austin, Texas, after it was granted exemptions from tariffs to import parts from China.

    “The Mac Pro is Apple’s most powerful computer ever and we’re proud to be building it in Austin,” Apple CEO Tim Cook said in a statement last week. “We thank the administration for their support enabling this opportunity.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Some more good news for Trump.....https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/...auto-companies

    President Trump on Monday touted a host of new investments in the U.S. worth billions of dollars.

    One of the investments is a $4 billion joint venture on behalf of Hyundai, Kia and Aptiv to develop autonomous driving technologies, which the president noted would bring a lot of “great jobs” back to America.

    The companies said last week that the driving platform would be available for robotaxi providers and automotive manufacturers in 2022.

    Additionally, Trump said Navistar, a leading manufacturer of trucks and buses, would be building a $250 million truck factory in San Antonio, Texas – bringing an additional 600 jobs.


    Trump also mentioned – as previously reported by FOX Business – that tech giant Apple will build its new Mac Pro in Austin, Texas, after it was granted exemptions from tariffs to import parts from China.

    “The Mac Pro is Apple’s most powerful computer ever and we’re proud to be building it in Austin,” Apple CEO Tim Cook said in a statement last week. “We thank the administration for their support enabling this opportunity.”
    That doesn't come close to offsetting the billions upon billions from his tax increases... or his new welfare.

    It's a shame that Trump and his supporters are in favor of so many tax increases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Some more good news for Trump.....https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/...auto-companies

    President Trump on Monday touted a host of new investments in the U.S. worth billions of dollars.

    One of the investments is a $4 billion joint venture on behalf of Hyundai, Kia and Aptiv to develop autonomous driving technologies, which the president noted would bring a lot of “great jobs” back to America.

    The companies said last week that the driving platform would be available for robotaxi providers and automotive manufacturers in 2022.

    Additionally, Trump said Navistar, a leading manufacturer of trucks and buses, would be building a $250 million truck factory in San Antonio, Texas – bringing an additional 600 jobs.


    Trump also mentioned – as previously reported by FOX Business – that tech giant Apple will build its new Mac Pro in Austin, Texas, after it was granted exemptions from tariffs to import parts from China.

    “The Mac Pro is Apple’s most powerful computer ever and we’re proud to be building it in Austin,” Apple CEO Tim Cook said in a statement last week. “We thank the administration for their support enabling this opportunity.”
    Yeah, lets link Fox Business, the shittiest of the business channels that still doesn't recognize that Trump is a fucking Traitor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Some more good news for Trump.....https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/...auto-companies

    President Trump on Monday touted a host of new investments in the U.S. worth billions of dollars.

    One of the investments is a $4 billion joint venture on behalf of Hyundai, Kia and Aptiv to develop autonomous driving technologies, which the president noted would bring a lot of “great jobs” back to America.

    The companies said last week that the driving platform would be available for robotaxi providers and automotive manufacturers in 2022.

    Additionally, Trump said Navistar, a leading manufacturer of trucks and buses, would be building a $250 million truck factory in San Antonio, Texas – bringing an additional 600 jobs.


    Trump also mentioned – as previously reported by FOX Business – that tech giant Apple will build its new Mac Pro in Austin, Texas, after it was granted exemptions from tariffs to import parts from China.

    “The Mac Pro is Apple’s most powerful computer ever and we’re proud to be building it in Austin,” Apple CEO Tim Cook said in a statement last week. “We thank the administration for their support enabling this opportunity.”
    Why do you insist on posting what you think is good news for Trump in a thread that is dedicated to pointing out all the bad stuff that he's doing? Why not make your own megathread to point out the stuff that you think he's doing good at?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    That doesn't come close to offsetting the billions upon billions from his tax increases... or his new welfare.

    It's a shame that Trump and his supporters are in favor of so many tax increases.
    Not even that, don't give them that line. Trump is trying the claim credit for every good thing that happens in America, and that is fundamentally an extremely dishonest position. America has the world's largest economy, on any given day, big deals are being made and new investments are being made. This happens under every president.

    What Trump is doing is that every time he is in desperate trouble, he trots these out and pretends he is somehow involved, when he fucking isn't. America is a great country, that has a great economy, it is full of great people and great tech. Trump is responsible for absolutely none of it. The deals Trump was personally involved in are the ones that have turned out to be poison for their communities, like the Foxxcon plant, and the whole coal industry.

    Don't let this be about Trump, it isn't. The world still doesn't revolve around that traitor, even if Ghostpanther slaps his name on it for no reason.

    Edit: My bad, Ghostpanther wasn't the one that slapped the name on. Fox Business did that. Point still stands, he just didn't do it himself, he just parroted it.

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    https://thehill.com/regulation/lobby...han-obama-bush

    So...in less than three years, Trump has named more lobbyists to positions within the federal government than Bush or Obama. Over either of their eight year terms.

    The "drain the swamp" horse has already been long since reduced to mere atoms so I won't make another joke at the poor old gal's expense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    That doesn't come close to offsetting the billions upon billions from his tax increases... or his new welfare.
    Hey if my job numbers routinely got downgraded by dozens of thousands every month, I would brag about 600 jobs, too.

    And yes, to put it in perspective, Trump's 2% GDP growth -- compared to, say, the 3% which is less than the 4% he promised -- pro-rated every month would be $16 billion. Trump is bragging about making back about one-quarter of the gap between "can you imagine never getting 3%?" to "oh, so this is what it's like to never get 3%"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    I know you think this is all a joke right now. But that's part for the course. You haven't taken anything Trump has done seriously, no matter how damaging to the country.

    It's all been one big joke to you.

    This is serious and it's going to end really poorly for your side.

    If Trump is impeached and removed, then my side wins.
    If Trump is impeached and the vote fails in the Senate, Republicans will be forced to make politically damaging votes, and my side still wins, as Donald Trump - likely facing a handful of Republican votes against him minimum - goes into 2020 severely damaged.

    And EVEN if he gets re-elected, my side still wins. Because the nature of this scandal - in communications with another President - has rendered him untouchable in one of the main avenues of Presidential power - foreign relations. There is not a leader in the world now who will seek out Trump, lest he start ranting to them about this in a call, or asking for another favor. They'll all be recording their calls to protect themselves if they absolutely have to have one. He is permanently damaged goods. Other leaders were already waiting him out. This will make the few that aren't already more likely to do so.

    We've broken the power of this President. Permanently. The question is, are you smart enough to see that or not and embrace the wisdom of President Pence.
    If I didn’t know any better, I would think you were saying that Trump has somehow bumbled his way into being the target of a Xanatos Gambit. It’s kind of amazing in a way. This kind of thing shouldn’t be possible in real life. But I guess that’s been the last 3 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    Which he can't legally do.
    Why exactly?

    What part of US law forbids working with foreign authorities (and intelligence agencies) to gather evidence for probable case?

    Clearly they did it during Mueller investigation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    Why exactly?

    What part of US law forbids working with foreign authorities (and intelligence agencies) to gather evidence for probable case?

    Clearly they did it during Mueller investigation.
    It is against the fucking law. This is campaign finance violations, extortion, bribery, take your fucking pick. And Guilliani doesn't work for the fucking Federal government. This BLATANTLY a Logan Act violation. He doesn't have security clearance or anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    Why exactly?

    What part of US law forbids working with foreign authorities (and intelligence agencies) to gather evidence for probable case?

    Clearly they did it during Mueller investigation.
    You are asking why it is illegal to extort a foreign nation to fabricate a story on a political opponent?

    There is no probable case, that is a conspiracy theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    Why exactly?

    What part of US law forbids working with foreign authorities (and intelligence agencies) to gather evidence for probable case?

    Clearly they did it during Mueller investigation.
    Conspiracy to defraud the United States for making up a fake investigation.
    Campaign finance violation for asking a foreign country to help in an election.
    Soliciting a bribe from a foreign nation.

    If there was a legitimate reason for an investigation, which there isn't, the proper way for that to be conducted is for the DOJ to open an investigation and then get in contact with their counterparts in Ukraine. The AG is the United State's top law enforcement officer, not the president. The president's role in investigations is nothing.

    Let me be clear: The president does not start investigations. He can refer matters to the DOJ, but it is the DOJ that decides whether or not to open an investigation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Some more good news for Trump.....https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/...auto-companies

    President Trump on Monday touted a host of new investments in the U.S. worth billions of dollars.

    One of the investments is a $4 billion joint venture on behalf of Hyundai, Kia and Aptiv to develop autonomous driving technologies, which the president noted would bring a lot of “great jobs” back to America.

    The companies said last week that the driving platform would be available for robotaxi providers and automotive manufacturers in 2022.

    Additionally, Trump said Navistar, a leading manufacturer of trucks and buses, would be building a $250 million truck factory in San Antonio, Texas – bringing an additional 600 jobs.


    Trump also mentioned – as previously reported by FOX Business – that tech giant Apple will build its new Mac Pro in Austin, Texas, after it was granted exemptions from tariffs to import parts from China.

    “The Mac Pro is Apple’s most powerful computer ever and we’re proud to be building it in Austin,” Apple CEO Tim Cook said in a statement last week. “We thank the administration for their support enabling this opportunity.”
    Desperation is a stinky cologne Ghostpanther.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    It is against the fucking law. This is campaign finance violations, extortion, bribery, take your fucking pick. And Guilliani doesn't work for the fucking Federal government. This BLATANTLY a Logan Act violation. He doesn't have security clearance or anything.
    Attorneys working with foreign law enforcement agencies on former US officials need security clearance? That sounds ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeones View Post
    You are asking why it is illegal to extort a foreign nation to fabricate a story on a political opponent?
    There was no "asking to fabricate" (only to investigate), and there was no extortion (as Ukraine wasn't even aware that anything was delayed).

    There is no probable case, that is a conspiracy theory.
    There is no definition of "conspiracy theory" that could preclude any attorney from working on gathering evidence about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    Attorneys working with foreign law enforcement agencies on former US officials need security clearance? That sounds ridiculous.
    They need to be representatives of American law enforcement agencies, that's for sure. William Barr would count, Rudy Giuliani wouldn't. That's why the Australia calls are less important, legally, it just sets a base for how absolutely fucking crazy the conspiracies that these jackasses believe are.

    The conspiracies they believe are literally the things that will get them kicked out of office, because they're dumb enough to not only believe them, but pursue them, at the risk of our own national security apparatus.

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