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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    "Wait, he's going to let Japan export cars all they want and no tariffs?"

    That's what it seems like, yeah..
    I’m due for a new car soon, and was thinking Audi or Lexus, guess I might be leaning Lexus now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    What the fuck? How does this have ANYTHING to do with the Obama Administration? McConnell just went back in time like 4 years.
    He's tying the withdrawal of US forces, that did contribute towards the rise of the physical caliphate, to this move. It's a fair criticism, but rings hollow coming from O'Connel.

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    I find it incredibly unlikely that Trump didn't spend the weekend on calls with Republican leadership coordinating this Syrian pullback.

    For starters, it received immediate rebuke from Trump's loudest supporters and enablers in Congress. If Trump took a shit on their foreheads, it would take them a week to come up with a response, and it would probably be praise for gracing them with such an enormous chocolate delight. But Lindsey Graham was phoning into conservative radio with rebukes before Trump had even managed to dig out the few dozen words left in his vocabulary to vomit into his twitter feed.

    It gives Trump a new uproar to dampen his last one, impeachment, and to bog down momentum. It also gives Republicans an out to say they're tough on Trump even if they don't support impeachment. So brave and courageous! This isn't a mindless party of Trump!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapemask View Post
    I find it incredibly unlikely that Trump didn't spend the weekend on calls with Republican leadership coordinating this Syrian pullback.

    For starters, it received immediate rebuke from Trump's loudest supporters and enablers in Congress. If Trump took a shit on their foreheads, it would take them a week to come up with a response, and it would probably be praise for gracing them with such an enormous chocolate delight. But Lindsey Graham was phoning into conservative radio with rebukes before Trump had even managed to dig out the few dozen words left in his vocabulary to vomit into his twitter feed.

    It gives Trump a new uproar to dampen his last one, impeachment, and to bog down momentum. It also gives Republicans an out to say they're tough on Trump even if they don't support impeachment. So brave and courageous! This isn't a mindless party of Trump!
    No, that is just conspiracy nonsense. Trump couldn't coordinate such a thing if he tried, everything he says or does gets leaked to the Washington Post immediately, and several republicans would have happily leaked it themselves out of spite. No, this is exactly what it appeared to be, an extremely poorly thought out decision that came directly from Turkey, that received massive backlash over the potential security ramifications of it, and died in a few hours.

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    So, seems the only way to get Republicans to speak out against Trump is for Trump to do things with the military.

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    https://theintercept.com/2019/10/04/...sylum-seekers/

    U.S. BORDER OFFICIALS USE FAKE ADDRESSES, DANGEROUS CONDITIONS, AND MASS TRIALS TO DISCOURAGE ASYLUM-SEEKERS
    It's a long read so I won't post it all here.

    The cruelty is the point. Abolish the CBP and ICE and reform them with a clear purpose and direction that doesn't involve, "Recruiting agents with the promise that they'll fight off terrorists like they're Rambo."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://theintercept.com/2019/10/04/...sylum-seekers/



    It's a long read so I won't post it all here.

    The cruelty is the point. Abolish the CBP and ICE and reform them with a clear purpose and direction that doesn't involve, "Recruiting agents with the promise that they'll fight off terrorists like they're Rambo."
    Can we just charge the entire Trump administration with crimes against humanity, load them into a rocket and fire them into the sun?
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    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...-buyback-plan/

    Trump's bump-stock ban hasn't gone well, with an apparent majority of owners deciding that they'd rather illegally retain them despite them officially being banned.

    For some reason there seem to be some "law and order" conservatives that are cheering at this callous disregard for the law. It wasn't even a Democrat that tried to take their bump-stocks from them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thekri View Post
    No, that is just conspiracy nonsense.
    It's really not. This is the kind of thing Republicans have pulled multiple times in this term alone; Kavanaugh, for example, and the endless games of posturing and misdirection. I don't think Trump masterminded some elaborate scheme, because that's pretending any of this is elaborate. Trump wanted something to make people mad, Republicans wanted something to make them appear tough on their bill-signer, a kindergartener could say "hey, let's dick around with that same thing that pissed everyone off barely a year ago."

    Trump does this nearly every day for the last two years and it's been extremely successful at keeping the pitchfork-rush against his scandals to more of a haphazard loud grumble. But somehow people keep saying it's not deliberate.

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    Well, Trump just got thousands of people murdered to protect his property in Turkey.

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    This is what happens when you arm allied rebels not to "win" but draw a stalemate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    So, you know how some have long suspected Trump uses uppers? Apparently the moron himself gave us evidence way back in 2016.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/JRehling/...05950613958658

    You have likely seen this photo as it’s the famous taco bowl picture. Over his left shoulder you can see the open drawer stuffed with Sudafed.

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    Just in case someone suspects doctoring, here’s the original photo posted to Trump’s twitter.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonal...97587418247168
    He isn't even taking the good stuff. He's using the kind with this crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    So, you know how some have long suspected Trump uses uppers? Apparently the moron himself gave us evidence way back in 2016.



    https://mobile.twitter.com/JRehling/...05950613958658

    You have likely seen this photo as it’s the famous taco bowl picture. Over his left shoulder you can see the open drawer stuffed with Sudafed.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Just in case someone suspects doctoring, here’s the original photo posted to Trump’s twitter.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonal...97587418247168
    Oh so Trump's not actually insane, he's just an asshole with a drug addiction.

    *sips wine*

    Can't actually tell if that is better or worse at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Oh so Trump's not actually insane, he's just an asshole with a drug addiction.

    *sips wine*

    Can't actually tell if that is better or worse at this point.
    Remember, he doesn't drink though. That's for losers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    Remember, he doesn't drink though. That's for losers!
    Hey, let me be a loser, with style!

    *chugs a piscola
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    Members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee "Don't bullshit us on Syria"

    Members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Monday called for administration officials to testify before Congress about President Trump's decision to yank U.S. troops from northern Syria.

    The White House announced on Sunday night that Ankara was moving forward with a long-threatened offensive in northeastern Syria and that U.S. troops would not be in the “immediate area” when it happens.

    Sens. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) and Mitt Romney (R-Utah) said in a joint statement on Monday that administration officials must come before the Foreign Relations panel in the wake of the decision, which has been panned on Capitol Hill by members of both parties.

    "The Administration must come before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and explain to the American people how betraying an ally and ceding influence to terrorists and adversaries is not disastrous for our national security interests," Murphy and Romney said.


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    Trump, on his way to Minneapolis for a campaign speech, accuses the mayor of extorting him for security costs.

    When reached for comment, the mayor didn't say but I'm pretending he did "Well, he routinely underpays people, so fuck yeah we're hiking the costs. Do you remember El Paso? He owes them half a million and that's before one of his followers gunned down a Wal-Mart."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thekri View Post
    No, that is just conspiracy nonsense. Trump couldn't coordinate such a thing if he tried, everything he says or does gets leaked to the Washington Post immediately, and several republicans would have happily leaked it themselves out of spite. No, this is exactly what it appeared to be, an extremely poorly thought out decision that came directly from Turkey, that received massive backlash over the potential security ramifications of it, and died in a few hours.
    To be fair, manufacturing a problem and then "miraculously" coming up with a solution or fix is pretty much the M.O. of this administration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    So, you know how some have long suspected Trump uses uppers? Apparently the moron himself gave us evidence way back in 2016.



    https://mobile.twitter.com/JRehling/...05950613958658

    You have likely seen this photo as it’s the famous taco bowl picture. Over his left shoulder you can see the open drawer stuffed with Sudafed.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Just in case someone suspects doctoring, here’s the original photo posted to Trump’s twitter.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonal...97587418247168
    Not surprising, considering the nose-blockage you're bound to get when you're snorting Adderall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee "Don't bullshit us on Syria"

    Members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Monday called for administration officials to testify before Congress about President Trump's decision to yank U.S. troops from northern Syria.

    The White House announced on Sunday night that Ankara was moving forward with a long-threatened offensive in northeastern Syria and that U.S. troops would not be in the “immediate area” when it happens.

    Sens. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) and Mitt Romney (R-Utah) said in a joint statement on Monday that administration officials must come before the Foreign Relations panel in the wake of the decision, which has been panned on Capitol Hill by members of both parties.

    "The Administration must come before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and explain to the American people how betraying an ally and ceding influence to terrorists and adversaries is not disastrous for our national security interests," Murphy and Romney said.


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    Wrong side of congress for Trump to pick a fight.
    This is the kind of thing that could push GOP Senators to vote Conviction in the Impeachment trial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    So, you know how some have long suspected Trump uses uppers? Apparently the moron himself gave us evidence way back in 2016.



    https://mobile.twitter.com/JRehling/...05950613958658

    You have likely seen this photo as it’s the famous taco bowl picture. Over his left shoulder you can see the open drawer stuffed with Sudafed.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Just in case someone suspects doctoring, here’s the original photo posted to Trump’s twitter.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonal...97587418247168
    "Beyond pupil dilation, more serious side effects include hallucinations and paranoid psychosis."

    Sound like anyone we know?

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