Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Wyrt]

I'm sympathetic to the YPG problem, and so is the President, quite frankly."[/B]

This is like telling 1940s Germany that "I'm sympathetic to the Jewish problem"

[Edge-]

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4...ation-agencies

More subpoenas, this time for the heads of ICE and the USCIS

[Breccia]

Okay, now that multiple people have mentioned the Graham prank call thing and now that I'm done banging his wife in the shower, the question is raised:

Who was Graham lying to?

Normally I would say "Graham was lying to the murderous dictator" and that he was stringing "Erdogan's people" along, hoping to get some leverage or promises. Which I can get behind.

But then

Graham also mentions Trump’s personal interest in a “Turkish bank case” in the call that appears to refer to a U.S. case involving Reza Zarrab, an Iranian-Turkish gold trader and client of Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani

I mean, was Graham trying to trick "Erdogan" into helping Trump by virtue of helping Giuliani? Or was Graham making a power play, hoping to get info on Giuliani for when he really needed it?

I don't have a ton of respect for Graham, but I think both of those seem more likely than "Graham is lying when he says he'll push a bill to sanction Turkey, when it sounds like he's crossing Trump to do it".

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More subpoenas, this time for the heads of ICE and the USCIS

Throughout the Committee’s investigation, the Administration has refused to produce requested documents, and agency officials have refused to answer questions regarding why the Administration sought to deport these children, who was responsible for this decision, and how requests for deferred action will be handled going forward.

The Administration claimed that it was withholding this information because it was in ‘active litigation’ with a private party—an argument the Supreme Court has rejected as a basis to withhold documents from Congress

I think we all saw that, Cummings.

[Orbitus]

Yes, Democrats need to explain the timing of the pair's decision to attempt to flee the country immediately.

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Why would you give these guys bail? The article doesn't explain how they know the judge was "reluctant."

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/p...e-flight-risks

Judge OKs Bail Packages For Indicted Giuliani Pals

ALEXANDRIA, VIRGINIA — A federal magistrate judge in Virginia reluctantly approved a bond package Thursday for Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, the associates of Rudy Giuliani who were arrested Wednesday under campaign finance charges.

Parnas and Fruman will not be released to home detention, until the terms of the bail are met, the judge said.

Considering their ties to Russians, I wouldn't be surprised if they do get bail and get killed.

[Edge-]

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...-attacks-biden

Chants of “lock him up” erupted at President Trump's campaign-style rally Thursday night in Minneapolis after the president's son Eric Trump attacked former Vice President Joe Biden, a top Democratic presidential contender.

In which a political party repeatedly supports the jailing of political opponents without a trial or due process, while simultaneously complaining about the lack of due process that's irrelevant for the current impeachment inquiry.

The Republican party is never, ever, going to be the "party of law and order" ever again.

[Wyrt]

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...-attacks-biden



In which a political party repeatedly supports the jailing of political opponents without a trial or due process, while simultaneously complaining about the lack of due process that's irrelevant for the current impeachment inquiry.

The Republican party is never, ever, going to be the "party of law and order" ever again.

The Republican party is the Fascist party, this is what should be expected of them now.

[Zaydin]

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...-attacks-biden



In which a political party repeatedly supports the jailing of political opponents without a trial or due process, while simultaneously complaining about the lack of due process that's irrelevant for the current impeachment inquiry.

The Republican party is never, ever, going to be the "party of law and order" ever again.

Irony is dead. These people really do not have any sense of self-awareness.

[Masark]

The Republican party is never, ever, going to be the "party of law and order" ever again.

Party of "I Am The Law!" and "Obey My Orders!"

[Paranoid Android]

The playing of "Purple Rain" at President Trump's rally at Target Center was denounced by Prince's estate, which said the campaign didn't have permission and had agreed a year ago to not use the singer's music. https://t.co/zcZKK28BBH

https://twitter.com/StarTribune/stat...741854210?s=19

Like any corrupt, criminal, Trump breaks the rules and then takes something without permission. With the attitude of facing no repercussions.

[Shalcker]

Is that Pence? And why does he somehow look like a cardboard cutout.

Looks like poor photoshop... what is that thing above Giuliani's head? It's clearly not his hair...

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Hmm you could be right, bad image quality makes it look like a bad crop.

Haven't seen anyone wearing yarmulke that far down the head... it is a hat, it is supposed to rest on the head, not hang to the side.

[Shalcker]

Yeah, it’s typically worn exactly as he’s wearing it. The issue for him vs someone with hair is he can’t pin it in place as easily. And it’s not photoshopped.

What is the source of that image if it is not photoshopped?

Photos of Giuliani in yarmulke seem to show significantly higher-edge one, not skin-tight version.

[Orbitus]

https://twitter.com/StarTribune/stat...741854210?s=19

Like any corrupt, criminal, Trump breaks the rules and then takes something without permission. With the attitude of facing no repercussions.

How many times has he been told not to use a band or singer's music?

[Zaydin]

So what are the odds of Trump pinning everything on Ghouliani and throwing him under the bus?

[Blur4stuff]

Trump is incapable of admitting fault or accepting responsibility, so I'd say not only will he throw Rudy under the bus, but he'll eventually put his kids there too. Except for the one that apparently doesn't exist because he thinks she's ugly.

[s_bushido]

So what are the odds of Trump pinning everything on Ghouliani and throwing him under the bus?

Giuliani can perfectly imitate Trump's voice to impersonate him on phone calls?

[s_bushido]

Well that's exciting. Is his hair as perfect and amazing as Tom Cruise's under that mask?

[Zaydin]

Giuliani can perfectly imitate Trump's voice to impersonate him on phone calls?

Trump throws people under the bus when they become a liability to him. Did it to Manafort, Bannon, Flynn, Cohen, etc. With Rudys cronies in trying to fabricate smears against Biden arrested and Rudy possibly implicated, he's become a liability to Trump. Especially since the two apparently claimed to be part of Trumps legal team a few days ago.

[Breccia]

So what are the odds of Trump pinning everything on Ghouliani and throwing him under the bus?

At this stage, it would require such a 180 by both Trump and Giuliani, that nobody whose opinion actually matters (aka Congress) would buy it.

[Dontrike]

https://twitter.com/StarTribune/stat...741854210?s=19

Like any corrupt, criminal, Trump breaks the rules and then takes something without permission. With the attitude of facing no repercussions.

At that point I'm amazed any artist or their estate doesn't just sue him, he settle so often that it would be a quick buck.

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So what are the odds of Trump pinning everything on Ghouliani and throwing him under the bus?

0/1000

If you bet zero dollars you get 1000 when Trump fucks over Giuliani.

[Breccia]

Well, someone put a couple missiles into the side of an Iranian oil tanker.

Because what the Middle East needs right now is more drama, right?

The Sabiti was hit in the morning about 60 miles (96 km) from the Saudi port of Jeddah, Iranian media reported. The National Iranian Tanker Company (NITC) said the ship was damaged but now heading to the Gulf, denying reports it was set ablaze.

The incident, which has yet to be independently confirmed, is the latest involving oil tankers in the Red Sea and Gulf area, and is likely to ratchet up tensions between Tehran and Riyadh, long-time regional foes that have been fighting a proxy war in Yemen, which lies at the southern end of the Red Sea.

Reports of the incident, which have so far only come from Iranian sources, offered sometimes diverging accounts. State television, citing the national oil company, said it was hit by missiles while denying a report they came from Saudi Arabia.

Nobody has taken responsibility for the attack. So I'll put up my 3 top choices in order:

1) Israel

The fact that we don't know who it was, raises the chance that it was Israel, in my opinion. I believe they are capable of this kind of "warning shot" without being caught.

2) Saudi Arabia

Iran might have denied they came from them, but launching missiles from outside your own country isn't exactly new tech anymore. It could be payback for the Iranian attack on Saudi interests. It's not like Iran will invade while the US is there. I mean, Trump intentionally sent US troops to protect the Saudis to keep Iran from attacking and killing civilians, a move that was as tactically sound as it was inconsistent.

3) False Flag

I know this is wandering into risky territory, but let's face it, since when do we trust Iran on anything?

Not considered: random terrorist group. Simply put, the point of terrorism is to change politics by force. Without taking credit, you can't do that.

Not considered: USA. If Trump wanted a war in the Middle East to salvage his tenure, he's doing a really good job of hiding or delaying it.