Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[PhaelixWW]

You really need to stop getting conned that you will benefit from these corporate tax cuts.

But surely those mega-corps will just turn that windfall tax cut into higher salaries and bonuses for its lower tax bracket employees, right?

Oh snap, son, Trump hits 50% approval rate Friday. The impeachment crap is literally working in Trump's favor, as it shows the democrats have no reliable evidence, just hearsay and wild interpretations. LMAO.

Rasmussen has had Trump's approval near 50% for just about ever. Whereas most other polling numbers place it lower.

FiveThirtyEight's poll aggregator currently has it at 41.2% approval to 54.3% disapproval (-13.1% spread).
RealClearPolitics' poll aggregator currently has it at 44.2% approval to 54.0% disapproval (-9.8% spread).

[Stormspellz]

Rasmussen correctly predicted the Trump victory in 2016. So it's already more reliable than most.

broken clock is right twice a day, 2016 race Nov 7th (day before election) Rasmussen had trump at -3 while other major polls had -5-8, with the real outliner was one of them had Trump +2, Now look at 2018 where Rasumssen was off by 10+ and again in 2012 was off by 10+, Their track record gets even worse when you look at further down ballot races

[Smitzelplix]

The president spotted a tweet from an anchor of the lesser-known Trump propaganda “news” network, One America News, who linked to an article that quoted Un’s own mouthpiece, North Korean’s state news agency KCNA. The tweet called Joe Biden a “rabid dog” and said he should be “beaten to death with a stick.” But Trump ignored the threat and cheerily replied, “See you soon!”

“Mr. Chairman, Joe Biden may be Sleepy and Very Slow, but he is not a “rabid dog.” He is actually somewhat better than that, but I am the only one who can get you where you have to be. You should act quickly, get the deal done. See you soon!” the president tweeted.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...rM53pPBz5M94bQ

[Zan15]

Rasmussen correctly predicted the Trump victory in 2016. So it's already more reliable than most.

They did?

. Rasmussen Reports

11/2 - 11/6 45 43 Clinton +2

Their final EC call was for Clinton as well.

https://web.archive.org/web/20161110...nal_2016_picks

Though isn't it funny it no longer exsist on their live servers
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...nal_2016_picks


Monday, November 07, 2016
Clinton 322, Trump 216; 50-50 Senate; GOP holds House
After a nearly two-year campaign — kicked off in December 2014 by Jeb Bush (remember him?) — we’ve come to it at last. Election Day is less than 24 hours away.


They actually ended up being one of the worse EC calls

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Oh snap, son, Trump hits 50% approval rate Friday. The impeachment crap is literally working in Trump's favor, as it shows the democrats have no reliable evidence, just hearsay and wild interpretations. LMAO.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...ez_track_nov15

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Lol, won by the skin of their teeth with percentages that belong in the error margin. If not for Trump, the percentage would have been even more in favor of the democrats.

Oh snap...43% from fox.....down 3-4% points since impeachment crap started in earnest

https://www.foxnews.com/official-polls

. the democrats have no reliable evidence, just hearsay and wild interpretations. LMAO.

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Well except for those witnesses who actually were on and heard the call first hand, you would be 100% correct.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Lol, won by the skin of their teeth with percentages that belong in the error margin. If not for Trump, the percentage would have been even more in favor of the democrats.

Trump is the one who wrecked the GOP voter base and got Democrats out to vote. Welcome to the time of losing hundreds of seats across the nation to Democrats. Trump is the most unpopular president ever in the history of polling.

I realize you guys have to surround yourselves with echo chambers so you can hear your own voices shouting "TRUMP'S INNOCENT" for anyone to agree with you at all. That you guys have already determined he's innocent and won't even look at the evidence just proves how brainwashed into the cult you are. People who aren't even willing to look at evidence, roflmao. And before you say "I DID LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE, HE'S STILL INNOCENT SCREEEEE" then I guess you don't know federal law that well.

[Paranoid Android]

Trump is the one who wrecked the GOP voter base and got Democrats out to vote. Welcome to the time of losing hundreds of seats across the nation to Democrats. Trump is the most unpopular president ever in the history of polling.

I realize you guys have to surround yourselves with echo chambers so you can hear your own voices shouting "TRUMP'S INNOCENT" for anyone to agree with you at all. That you guys have already determined he's innocent and won't even look at the evidence just proves how brainwashed into the cult you are. People who aren't even willing to look at evidence, roflmao. And before you say "I DID LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE, HE'S STILL INNOCENT SCREEEEE" then I guess you don't know federal law that well.

This did also happen under Obama. Sorry I don't have time to research it if Obama or Trump has lost more State seats and Governors under which one. I remember Obama was devastated over his 4-8 years. Honestly a big problem I have with Obama is he didn't seem to care that much about down ballot or at least Wasserman-Schultz was horrible at it.

Now, again we can take a good guess or speculate why each lost all these seats. I will stick with Trump since it his thread. Yes, I would hope that Trumpism has turned off many voters or at least "moderate" voters.

I can't remember if SALT tax that Trump revoked on mainly blue states turned suburban voters away. Suburban voters really do vote with their pocket book and do love tax cuts, which is why they were always strong Republican. Now was it that their taxes were still affected or they just see Trump as he is, a fascist bigot.

Anyways this is rambling, but I don't know if we can boast about all these seats Trump has lost or is this the new trend that every mid-term of a 1st term President shit will just swing wildly.

[Machismo]

*shrug* I dunno, how often does the President make an unscheduled trip to the hospital with SS running to get in cars and the WH physician accompanying him? Probably just a panic attack since the walls are closing in on him.

There is no way in hell his visit wasn't caused by an actual health issue that popped up. Nobody just decides to take a random trip to the doctor, unless they are having problems.

[Dontrike]

2nd place is winning in Trumpverse.

It's not second place it's first to lose and to them that means they were the first at something.

[Machismo]

Much less the President. These things are always scheduled in advance and the staff of Walter Reed is notified that certain areas will be off limits. For them to suddenly rush him to the hospital in a motorcade(Marine One is the typical mode of transport to go to Walter Reed) means they didn't have time to wait for Marine One to be prepped and had to leave immediately. Like I said, it was probably a panic attack brought on by stress and stimulant abuse. We likely won't know the truth for years though.

I love that they also tried to expand on the lie, and say he also took the time to meet folks, and thank the people there... as if that was part of the reason for going there.

[Paranoid Android]

Our great Farmers will recieve another major round of “cash,” compliments of China Tariffs, prior to Thanksgiving. The smaller farms and farmers will be big beneficiaries. In the meantime, and as you may have noticed, China is starting to buy big again. Japan deal DONE. Enjoy!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...925691906?s=19

Haha! Socialism says what.

[Machismo]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...925691906?s=19

Haha! Socialism says what.

Like I have been saying for quite some time, Trump and his supporters are national socialists.

[Breccia]

Haha! Socialism says what.

A few things:

1) As I've personally noted before, the Japan deal is "Japan buys slightly less than if we'd stayed in the TPP." It's a net loss.

2) As others have noted before, Trump said China would buy tens of billions and China said noooooooo we will buy as much as we were buying before the tariffs.

So far, that's 0/2 for Trump beating the status quo. He is a net loser.

3) Why put quotes on "cash"? Just say money. Or, are the quotes sarcastic?

4) Trump decided not to ban Juul pods because he was worried the job losses would make him look bad.

"What does that have to do with the tweet?"

Nothing. I just wanted to post that.

[Fugus]

This did also happen under Obama. Sorry I don't have time to research it if Obama or Trump has lost more State seats and Governors under which one. I remember Obama was devastated over his 4-8 years. Honestly a big problem I have with Obama is he didn't seem to care that much about down ballot or at least Wasserman-Schultz was horrible at it.

Now, again we can take a good guess or speculate why each lost all these seats. I will stick with Trump since it his thread. Yes, I would hope that Trumpism has turned off many voters or at least "moderate" voters.

I can't remember if SALT tax that Trump revoked on mainly blue states turned suburban voters away. Suburban voters really do vote with their pocket book and do love tax cuts, which is why they were always strong Republican. Now was it that their taxes were still affected or they just see Trump as he is, a fascist bigot.

Anyways this is rambling, but I don't know if we can boast about all these seats Trump has lost or is this the new trend that every mid-term of a 1st term President shit will just swing wildly.

Obama lost mountains of seats but, I have a little caveat to include that most don't ever really think about when they look at it.

Obama took office in 2009, just before the last redistricting where the Republicans did a massive push and gained just enough seats in many places to gain a majority for redistricting.

They gerrymandered the living hell out of them. Using my home state of North Carolina as an example. Before that, our 13 seats were typically split 8D/5R to 6D/7R. Purple with a slight blue edge but typically within the range of the popular vote.

After they redistricted, all of a sudden that shot up to 3D/10R even with a 50/50 split in the popular vote. Even with the Democrats winning the popular vote 55/45, the seats still were split 4D/9R.

Our last election, we had 1 district where a Republican ran uncontested. Out of the 12 contested districts, the Democrats got 164,000 more votes than the Republicans and only got 3 of the seats while the Republicans lost and got the other 9.

That is a minimum of 4 stolen seats right there, along with any other position voted on by district along with any other position where they are appointed or nominated by anyone voted on by district.

Now repeated that across the nation.

I am wondering just how many of those seats under Obama were actually LOST seats versus STOLEN seats.

[Mayhem]

Obama lost mountains of seats but, I have a little caveat to include that most don't ever really think about when they look at it.

Obama took office in 2009, just before the last redistricting where the Republicans did a massive push and gained just enough seats in many places to gain a majority for redistricting.

They gerrymandered the living hell out of them. Using my home state of North Carolina as an example. Before that, our 13 seats were typically split 8D/5R to 6D/7R. Purple with a slight blue edge but typically within the range of the popular vote.

After they redistricted, all of a sudden that shot up to 3D/10R even with a 50/50 split in the popular vote. Even with the Democrats winning the popular vote 55/45, the seats still were split 4D/9R.

Our last election, we had 1 district where a Republican ran uncontested. Out of the 12 contested districts, the Democrats got 164,000 more votes than the Republicans and only got 3 of the seats while the Republicans lost and got the other 9.

That is a minimum of 4 stolen seats right there, along with any other position voted on by district along with any other position where they are appointed or nominated by anyone voted on by district.

Now repeated that across the nation.

I am wondering just how many of those seats under Obama were actually LOST seats versus STOLEN seats.

Well, at least that have the trumpansees right, the US really isn't a democracy, it's a republic, where someone represents you, or not.

[Breccia]

Hospitals threaten to sue Trump over his price transparency rules.

"What rules?"

It was something he proposed recently, basically saying insurers and hospitals need to disclose the rates of out-of-pocket costs of procedures before they're applied.

"I mean, that sounds kind of reasonable."

Well, yes, except for

1) Right now, that's a proposed rule. Not applied.

2) Hospitals are going to argue that the Executive Branch doesn't have the authority to do that. Instead, it's a law that should be passed by Congress. No such law exists.

3) And also, the ACA almost makes it irrelevant. The ACA has a maximum amount anyone can pay out of pocket per year, to prevent price gouging from putting sick people in debt forever. Now, Trump has unilaterally made it so plans without this cap are legal again, and people with those formerly illegal plans might want the heads-up. But this is, yet again, Trump trying for a partial fix for a problem he made himself.

Which means it doesn't matter how reasonable it sounds. Yes, putting a brace or cast on a sprained ankle sounds like a smart move. You know what else sounds smart? Not skating down 3 flights of solid stone steps on a cafeteria tray coated in pizza grease.

[Dontrike]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...925691906?s=19

Haha! Socialism says what.

Besides the obvious lie that the small farms will be the primary beneficiaries and the other lies throughout I'm trying to understand why he put cash in quotes. Is this another "These great canines, I call them dogs" moment?

[Wikko]

Hospitals threaten to sue Trump over his price transparency rules.

"What rules?"

It was something he proposed recently, basically saying insurers and hospitals need to disclose the rates of out-of-pocket costs of procedures before they're applied.

"I mean, that sounds kind of reasonable."

Well, yes, except for

1) Right now, that's a proposed rule. Not applied.

2) Hospitals are going to argue that the Executive Branch doesn't have the authority to do that. Instead, it's a law that should be passed by Congress. No such law exists.

3) And also, the ACA almost makes it irrelevant. The ACA has a maximum amount anyone can pay out of pocket per year, to prevent price gouging from putting sick people in debt forever. Now, Trump has unilaterally made it so plans without this cap are legal again, and people with those formerly illegal plans might want the heads-up. But this is, yet again, Trump trying for a partial fix for a problem he made himself.

Which means it doesn't matter how reasonable it sounds. Yes, putting a brace or cast on a sprained ankle sounds like a smart move. You know what else sounds smart? Not skating down 3 flights of solid stone steps on a cafeteria tray coated in pizza grease.

How is that not already required? I'm honestly trying to find something that would make sense in your healthcare system but it's proving to be quite impossible

[Breccia]

In an outcome so predictable it's barely making waves, whoever the new WH Propaganda Chief is said that questioning the health of "the healthiest person to ever run for office" aka a 300-pound obese sack of Big Macs and Cheetos is "irresponsible and dangerous".

Anticipating a very busy 2020, the President is taking advantage of a free weekend here in Washington, D.C., to begin portions of his routine annual physical exam at Walter Reed.

Oh the rumors are always flying. [Trump] is as healthy as can be. I put a statement out about that. He's got more energy than anybody in the White House. That man works from 6 a.m. until, you know, very, very late at night. He's doing just fine.

Further speculation beyond the extensive & honest info I put out is wholly irresponsible & dangerous for the country.

This came up because, well, Trump made an unscheduled visit to the aforementioned hospital. Thing is, a reporter has a source saying Trump went because of "chest discomfort". Honestly, it's be strange if a 300 pound man who watches six hours of TV a day didn't have chest discomfort. So, while an excessively skeptical person of the lies and lies on more lies coming from the WH would suggest that an unscheduled visit to the hospital could be laying the groundwork for an exit from the WH just before the crushing weight of Trump's failures, excuses, and lawbreaking grinds him into powder and scatters him to the four winds on live TV during the 2020 election season...

(picks up coffee)

Which I would neeeeEEEeeeever say...

(sips)

The real issue here is the comment that asking about the health of the President, an ancient clump of congealed animal fat wearing a fake tan and wig, is bad for the country when he just went to the hospital for no pre-explained reason. We're seeing more of the "TRAITOR!" talk for merely inquiring about what little health Trump has left.

Even if everything the WH said was true, which first of all HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA but second of all, the concern was because it was an unannounced visit. It's much harder to defend "this was a routine visit, there's nothing to see here, please disperse" when you're caught lying by omission about the visit in the first place.

[Thekri]

Even if everything the WH said was true, which first of all HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA but second of all, the concern was because it was an unannounced visit. It's much harder to defend "this was a routine visit, there's nothing to see here, please disperse" when you're caught lying by omission about the visit in the first place.

Well it seems unlikely everything the WH said is true. The part about "Working from 6 AM until very, very, late at night" in particular seems unlikely.

More disturbing is the fact that questioning Trump's personal health is somehow dangerous for the country. He is not our King, the land isn't going to wither and die without him.

[Breccia]

More disturbing is the fact that questioning Trump's personal health is somehow dangerous for the country.

Indeed. Even more so when he tried to imply Clinton was sick. We are talking about a massive bloated obese fatass hypocrite here.

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The Supreme Court puts a temporary stay on the House's subpoena of Trump's taxes, which suggests they're considering taking up the case.

Time to see if those judges were worth what Trump paid them.