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    Quote Originally Posted by eschatological View Post
    It's kind of ironic, seeing as the new Star Wars show that premiered last night is written in a dystopian future where the Federation became racist and isolationist, and Picard has to fight against it.
    Here's some money, go see a Star War.
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    Quote Originally Posted by draynay View Post
    For real, what forum is he moderator of?
    /sets phaser to maximum setting
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    Quote Originally Posted by eschatological View Post
    It's kind of ironic, seeing as the new Star Wars show that premiered last night is written in a dystopian future where the Federation became racist and isolationist, and Picard has to fight against it.
    ...... I not sure what to say atm.... :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    ...... I not sure what to say atm.... :P
    Picard manipulated Darth Sidious. Spoiler warning for JJ Abrams next Star Wars movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thekri View Post
    Picard manipulated Darth Sidious. Spoiler warning for JJ Abrams next Star Wars movie.
    Stranger: Who are you?
    Picard: I'm Jean-Luc Skywalker.

    This shit writes itself, lol.

    On another note, what are the chances this was put out today to deflect from the Parnas tapes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thekri View Post
    Picard manipulated Darth Sidious. Spoiler warning for JJ Abrams next Star Wars movie.
    Star wars the kelvin timeline?

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    Reminder that Mike Pompeo is a human trash fire:



    From the aftermath of his NPR interview with Mary Louise Kelly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Mea Culpa. I have to wade through the shit which is the Star Wars RoS thread every day, it's hard to shake it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Reminder that Mike Pompeo is a human trash fire:



    From the aftermath of his NPR interview with Mary Louise Kelly.
    https://www.npr.org/2020/01/24/79924...e-what-s-right

    I...didn't believe that was legit, but holy shit. This is legit.

    Mike Pompeo needs to be removed now. This is completely, absolutely, batshit insane and unhinged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thekri View Post
    Ok, I know it is is funny, but this particular critism doesn't really hold water. The Starfleet logo blatently ripped off US Space Program design elements. Look at the NASA logo itself for a perfect example, and it was designed 6 years before Star Trek first aired (The Starfleet Logo wasn't actually designed until the 1990s). The Swoosh around the central symbol, the prominent use of the Chevron, and the background of stars, all typical of all Logos designed for US Space Projects and organizations. The format of the Seal for Starfleet is also taken directly from US Government formats for seals.

    So this is an example of Star Trek ripping off US Space Programs, not the other way around.
    As mentioned before, this really doesn't help the public perception that the Space Force is a cut rate joke. Not exactly the impression you want to give when you roll out a new branch of the military.

    Plus, I'm more mystified by the fact that despite the similarity to the Starfleet logo the administration still apparently needs to rely on clip art assets, lol. This looks like it was designed in MS Word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.npr.org/2020/01/24/79924...e-what-s-right

    I...didn't believe that was legit, but holy shit. This is legit.

    Mike Pompeo needs to be removed now. This is completely, absolutely, batshit insane and unhinged.
    The amount of projection in the Trump camp is hilarious.

    "We're all geographically illiterate nativists, so everyone else must be!"
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    As mentioned before, this really doesn't help the public perception that the Space Force is a cut rate joke. Not exactly the impression you want to give when you roll out a new branch of the military.

    Plus, I'm more mystified by the fact that despite the similarity to the Starfleet logo the administration still apparently needs to rely on clip art assets, lol. This looks like it was designed in MS Word.
    Well I would go about even money that the first time anyone in the DoD saw it was in that tweet. The official DoD Twitter and Facebook pages haven't shown this logo, which is EXTREMELY unusual. No press conference or ceremony either, and for the official seal of an entire branch, that is insane. I am wondering if this is something some White House staffer made and Trump just posted. The Seal doesn't look right. It doesn't follow what I would expect from the DoD, including the resolution and wording.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thekri View Post
    Well I would go about even money that the first time anyone in the DoD saw it was in that tweet. The official DoD Twitter and Facebook pages haven't shown this logo, which is EXTREMELY unusual. No press conference or ceremony either, and for the official seal of an entire branch, that is insane. I am wondering if this is something some White House staffer made and Trump just posted. The Seal doesn't look right. It doesn't follow what I would expect from the DoD, including the resolution and wording.
    That's my thinking, too - that this gets released not hours after the Parnas tapes come out is a little too coincidental.

    The point being that the Republican party continues to make a massive joke out of the US.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thekri View Post
    Well I would go about even money that the first time anyone in the DoD saw it was in that tweet. The official DoD Twitter and Facebook pages haven't shown this logo, which is EXTREMELY unusual. No press conference or ceremony either, and for the official seal of an entire branch, that is insane. I am wondering if this is something some White House staffer made and Trump just posted. The Seal doesn't look right. It doesn't follow what I would expect from the DoD, including the resolution and wording.
    Probably because, unsurprisingly, the Trump administration whipped this up and pushed it public without going through all the proper channels, processes, and procedures for something like creating a logo for a new agency.

    "Quick, distraction Star-Trek knockoff logo! STOP LOOKING AT THE IMPEACHMENT!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    That's my thinking, too - that this gets released not hours after the Parnas tapes come out is a little too coincidental.

    The point being that the Republican party continues to make a massive joke out of the US.
    usually government seals have a lot of symbology and meaning to them as well. a cheap ripoff is what i'd expect from this admin.

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    Like, I can't begin to describe my anger at Pompeo's absolute shitshow of behavior that's more fitting for a highschool jock than a Secretary of State.

    This is not normal. This SHOULD NOT be normal. If Republicans had an ounce of a spine, they'd call for his immediate resignation for behavior that's far, far, far below the office of the Secretary of State.

    I just can't believe we have an administration behaving in such a manner for 3 years and the response from 1/3 to 1/2 of the country is, "Yeah, this is fine.", and from the Republican party writ-large. Because one of the lone dissenters left the party, Amash, specifically because they refused to stand up to Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Like, I can't begin to describe my anger at Pompeo's absolute shitshow of behavior that's more fitting for a highschool jock than a Secretary of State.

    This is not normal. This SHOULD NOT be normal. If Republicans had an ounce of a spine, they'd call for his immediate resignation for behavior that's far, far, far below the office of the Secretary of State.

    I just can't believe we have an administration behaving in such a manner for 3 years and the response from 1/3 to 1/2 of the country is, "Yeah, this is fine.", and from the Republican party writ-large. Because one of the lone dissenters left the party, Amash, specifically because they refused to stand up to Trump.
    i'll just say that that kinda shit happens on all levels of government and no one does shit about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Probably because, unsurprisingly, the Trump administration whipped this up and pushed it public without going through all the proper channels, processes, and procedures for something like creating a logo for a new agency.

    "Quick, distraction Star-Trek knockoff logo! STOP LOOKING AT THE IMPEACHMENT!"
    Well, again, it isn't exactly a Star Trek knockoff. Both Space Force and Star Trek were copying 1960-Present US Space Program seals. It is common inspiration, and Space Force frankly has a better claim then Star Trek.

    That said, the more I think about this, the weirder it gets. Absolutely no announcement or acknowledgement from any DoD source, just thrown on Trump's twitter feed in the middle of a Friday afternoon with no fanfare. The Military LOVES ceremonies. They have ceremonies for everything, we will have a 2 hour ceremony to rename a maintenance shed, with rehearsals the day before. The military isn't going to want the symbol that represents an entire branch to be rolled out on a Page where the pinned image right now is this one:

    Yes, that is a meme that Trump has pinned on his official Twitter feed while announcing the seal that will sit next to the Seal of the Army, Navy, Marine Corps and Air Force.

    There couldn't be a less military way of handling this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thekri View Post
    There couldn't be a less military way of handling this.
    Which makes sense, until you remember Trump went to god-damn military school.

    But I guess his brain is so addled by this point that he's probably forgotten he even went to one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Which makes sense, until you remember Trump went to god-damn military school.

    But I guess his brain is so addled by this point that he's probably forgotten he even went to one.
    Military School has nothing to do with Military... Those schools are intended to be "Military Style", they are rich kid prep schools, nothing more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Which makes sense, until you remember Trump went to god-damn military school.

    But I guess his brain is so addled by this point that he's probably forgotten he even went to one.
    its kind of a meme that military school is where brats who aren't fit for regular school are sent. wouldn't be surprised if he kept a grudge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thekri View Post
    Military School has nothing to do with Military... Those schools are intended to be "Military Style", they are rich kid prep schools, nothing more.
    yea but he seems to have a weird fixation with the military that may stem from that.

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