Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Dontrike]

because, thankfully, some people understand that countries don't exist without borders and enforcement of those borders.

Weird, we were fine without them for over a hundred years, and in fact had immigrants coming in constantly, and legally too (just like now) and the country didn't implode. Can you explain that?

[Elegiac]

Weird, we were fine without them for over a hundred years, and in fact had immigrants coming in constantly, and legally too (just like now) and the country didn't implode. Can you explain that?

Cause previous waves of immigration were from predominantly white countries and they've functionally erased the anti-Irish/Italian/etc. bigotry that was rampant in those time periods.

[Stormspark]

No different then when he said he saw people cheering when 9-11 happened. He's so full of shit you can find him in Conker's Bad Fur Day

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Don't worry, I have it on high authority he learned his lesson

Honestly, at this point I would rather see the Greaty Mighty Poo as president. He's MUCH less full of shit. And he flings a lot less of it around.

[Elegiac]

Please, convince me this isn't a cult.

Well I can't do that but I can provide this handy dandy chart from the replies:

[Tenlo]

Please, convince me this isn't a cult.

I may not really remember Bush to much but I'm curious.

Has there been any republican presidents with the level of worship Trump gets? This isn't just support it honestly is creepy how many people would probably sacrifice their children if he asked

[Elegiac]

I may not really remember Bush to much but I'm curious.

Has there been any republican presidents with the level of worship Trump gets? This isn't just support it honestly is creepy how many people would probably sacrifice their children if he asked

Ronald Reagan.

[Dontrike]

Please, convince me this isn't a cult.

No one can do that, everyone knows it's a cult.

[Tenlo]

Ronald Reagan.

Did he have that during his tenure? Cuz wouldnt be be called a RINO today with his actual policies and not the almost mythical status.
And I realize I didn't clarify I meant during their actual presidency my bad

[D Luniz]

Another investigation into absolutely fuck all? Yet Democrats are wasting people's money....


The Senate just showed he can do whatever he wants, of course this would be the first step.


How is ICE even still around? You folks need to get rid of that shit.



Guess this is how Trump/Republicans are spinning Pelosi's act of ripping up Trump's lies.
Nothing like using the people you took there to honour in your propaganda.

Authoritarian regimes love human shields.

[Benggaul]

Did he have that during his tenure? Cuz wouldnt be be called a RINO today with his actual policies and not the almost mythical status.
And I realize I didn't clarify I meant during their actual presidency my bad

I've said this before, but Reagan was essentially the same as Trump--just without a Twitter account. He and his shrew wife hated minorities and the poor and he himself was a narcissistic asshole with dementia/Alzheimers.

I don't think he had exactly the same level of blind support that Trump does, but then there wasn't easy access to conspiracy theory echo chambers then.

[Tenlo]

I've said this before, but Reagan was essentially the same as Trump--just without a Twitter account. He and his shrew wife hated minorities and the poor and he himself was a narcissistic asshole with dementia/Alzheimers.

I don't think he had exactly the same level of blind support that Trump does, but then there wasn't easy access to conspiracy theory echo chambers then.

You know what that is quite true didn't consider that. Thank you nice internet people! May all your Potatoes make good fries

[Elegiac]

How dare you suggest he wasn't chosen by God!

Reagan would have been my answer, too. People worship him to this day.

Tenlo does have a point. Reagan's cult really "took off" after there was enough time and six feet of dirt for history to bury his less pleasant aspects - and even that seems to have taken a turn with the recent declassified materials that clearly paint him as like, a virulent racist. Trump's a novelty in that his unpleasant aspects are not only on display, but are being actively excused or even celebrated.

I'ma get into borderline territory here on the subject I broach so please be forgiving, but...there's been quite a lot of ink spilled in left wing philosophical circles regarding the reasons for the bar having apparently collapsed. Some blame it on sheer political opportunism, but that really doesn't cut to the heart of it; one opinion that does has to do with Obama.

I want to just illustrate something that I don't think a lot of people quite appreciate, and that was the sheer weight of expectation that came with an African American becoming President. The entire reason the Republicans had to go into hyperbolic hysterics or just blatantly make shit up about Obama is indicative of how little there actually was to criticise (at least from the Republican standpoint, since the things you can validly criticise Obama for the Republicans are guilty of anyway). He was the very picture of the immigrant experience that worked his way up from relative obscurity, was in a stable, loving marriage to a very dignified and respectable woman and with two intelligent daughters that are as close to "classic" American teenager as you can get. There were never any affairs, never any indications of marital strife or family dysfunction. So they had to go after his choice in suit color, or what kind of mustard he likes, or that his favourite vegetable is arugula and not a McRib. He had his political scandals and crises, as every President does, but when you really compare it to previous administrations - it was a stable transition of power from both ends and the country recovered from economic crisis - he did very well, considering a good half of the country was desperately waiting for him to fail.

How is this relevant? Consider that Trump's disgusting conduct is a feature, not a bug. He, in many ways, is a pointed message from the whitest parts of America at the rest of the country: "The worst of us will be better than the best of you."

[Elegiac]

TRUMP IS BLOWING UP A NATIONAL MONUMENT IN ARIZONA TO MAKE WAY FOR THE BORDER WALL

Shakin' my head.

[starlord]

TRUMP IS BLOWING UP A NATIONAL MONUMENT IN ARIZONA TO MAKE WAY FOR THE BORDER WALL

arizonans will cheer him on.

[Edge-]

TRUMP IS BLOWING UP A NATIONAL MONUMENT IN ARIZONA TO MAKE WAY FOR THE BORDER WALL

Fuck everything about this and everyone that supports this.

I sincerely hope the next Democrat in office tears all of these down except for the small stretch where Trump signed his name and designates a national monument to our shame and humiliation at our naked, transparent, monumentally stupid racism.

[Zaydin]

Fuck everything about this and everyone that supports this.

I sincerely hope the next Democrat in office tears all of these down except for the small stretch where Trump signed his name and designates a national monument to our shame and humiliation at our naked, transparent, monumentally stupid racism.

And designate it a public restroom.

[Tenlo]

TRUMP IS BLOWING UP A NATIONAL MONUMENT IN ARIZONA TO MAKE WAY FOR THE BORDER WALL

Well of course he is. It's not a monument to the orange king so it doesn't matter!

[Edge-]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...-supreme-court

So I was joking about this, but I hate that absurd jokes can become a potential reality.

[Donatello Trumpi]

Fuck everything about this and everyone that supports this.

I sincerely hope the next Democrat in office tears all of these down except for the small stretch where Trump signed his name and designates a national monument to our shame and humiliation at our naked, transparent, monumentally stupid racism.

Walls and borders are racist?
Well, why dont you open your door honey and let everyone into your home then?

lol

[Edge-]

Walls and borders are racist?
Well, why dont you open your door honey and let everyone into your home then?

This wall is racist, yes. But I'm glad facts, nuance, and context doesn't seem to have butted into your reality yet.

And I mean, I live in an apartment complex with plenty of immigrant families. I don't know them too well (or any of my neighbors), but our interactions have always been lovely and I'd have no problem having more move in.

Not that "THEWALL" is actually doing anything because you know...it can be defeated by...

A ladder
Consumer-grade power tools
Rope
Tunnels
The fucking wind

So it's really largely just a gigantic art installation, as it's doing nothing to accomplish the job it's supposed to. I guess Republicans finally decided to support the arts, but just chose the shittiest fucking art installation possible.