1. #35861
    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post

    No one wants to take anything. Why do you keep saying that?
    The best part about their whining is @derpkitteh is absolutely a net taker by a significant margin.
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  2. #35862
    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    This explains so much.

    Man, the Russian economy must be in real trouble if they've replaced Shackler with you.
    Not really, it's back on track, and I'm not Russian.

  3. #35863
    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    Not really, it's back on track, and I'm not Russian.
    Not sure why you'd consider spiraling around the drain to be a good thing. Usually back on track has positive connotations.
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    Rolling their eyes in obvious frustration, the FDA resumes asbestos testing after a fifty-year hiatus, because asbestos has started turning up in in things like baby powder.

    "Was this due to a Trump policy or something?"

    Trump didn't sign an EO or bill that loosened regulations on the medical or cosmetic industry, he just strongly implied it by, say, not testing products for asbestos until a court forced him to.

    The Trump administration unlawfully excluded millions of tons of some of the most dangerous materials in public use from a safety review, a federal appeals court ruled [August].

    A three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency must consider dangers posed by asbestos, lead and other toxins regardless of whether they’re still being manufactured.

    Millions of tons of those chemicals are in the marketplace, in products ranging from home insulation and fire retardant to house paint and plumbing pipes.

    The safety review was mandated by Congress and is the first step toward enacting potential new regulations to protect the public.

    Under President Barack Obama, the EPA said it would consider the risks of those older products since they result in some of the most common chemical exposures by people.

    But spurred by the chemical industry, the EPA under President Donald Trump sought to limit the review to products still being manufactured.

    EPA officials will review the court’s decision, agency spokesperson Corry Schiermeyer said.

    For asbestos, the EPA proposal would have meant gauging the risks from just a few hundred tons of the material that are imported annually — while excluding almost all of the estimated 8.9 million tons (8.1 million metric tons) of asbestos-containing products that entered the marketplace between 1970 and 2016.
    By the way, the EPA has until this coming summer to prove they're complying. For all we know, they're still not testing stuff they're required to.

    Plus that thing about Trump directly allowing coal sludge dumped into drinking water. Trump has proven he doesn't care about contamination.

    For anyone thinking of defending Trump on this one, let me ask this: do you really think it was a coincidence that, after Trump directly promoted asbestos and pollution and stopped testing products to the point of it being illegal, only now did we find a carcinogen in a product applied directly to newborn children? It's not like any company really wanted to be caught with the stuff anyhow, but only now after an anti-vaxxer climate change hoax conspiracy theorist who thinks noise causes cancer did a company say "well I guess it's okay if we get caught then"?

    You don't believe that's a coincidence. Nobody believes that. You're just watching Trump's words being called "toxic" go from figurative to literal.

    "If Trump is fine with asbestos, why did he order the White House evacuated when they were clearing out --"

    Hypocrisy.

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  5. #35865
    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    This Alaska thingy, when are u guys giving it back to us?? Soon, I hope, would be sweet.

    Good to know who the Russians are. Mind staying out of our politics?
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    100:1 odds that he wont
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    Pentgaon flat-out says withdrawing from Iraq would cause ISIS to strengthen.

    Which is a tough spot to be in, on account of Iraq wanting to throw us out.

    A U.S. military withdrawal from Iraq would “likely” lead to an ISIS resurgence, according to an intelligence assessment revealed in an inspector general report Tuesday.

    “The Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA)’s analysis for the DoD OIG [Department of Defense Office of the Inspector General] indicates that without a U.S. troop presence in Iraq, ISIS would likely resurge in Iraq,” Pentagon Inspector General Glenn Fine wrote in an introduction to the report.

    The latest quarterly report from the lead inspector general for Operation Inherent Resolve comes as U.S.-Iraqi relations continue to reel from the fallout over the U.S. drone strike that killed Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani at the Baghdad International Airport.
    Unrelated: the last batch of Trump's socialist farmer bailouts is on their way out right now. The money's gone.

    "But surely Phase One and NAFTA 1.0.0.2 -- "

    China won't buy more than they need, and they can back out on whim if, oh I don't know, Trump calls them idiots for the coronavirus or raises tariffs again. NAFTA 1.0.0.2 mostly affects auto parts. Neither of those are going to reverse the damage, such as the record-breaking number of Chapter 12 filings or the firm Brazilian soybean crop.

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    Continuing to ignore all laws in general and this law in particular, Jared Kushner found violating the Hatch Act by advocating Trump for President.

    "But he's a family member!"

    True, but he's also a WH employee. And in that official capacity, he's not allowed to do that. And he did. Sorry. I don't make the rules.

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  7. #35867
    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post

    Unrelated: the last batch of Trump's socialist farmer bailouts is on their way out right now. The money's gone.

    "But surely Phase One and NAFTA 1.0.0.2 -- "

    China won't buy more than they need, and they can back out on whim if, oh I don't know, Trump calls them idiots for the coronavirus or raises tariffs again. NAFTA 1.0.0.2 mostly affects auto parts. Neither of those are going to reverse the damage, such as the record-breaking number of Chapter 12 filings or the firm Brazilian soybean crop.

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    Only took one problem for the trump admin to use as an excuse that the goals set in "phase one" won't be met, shocked it took so long... lol

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/04/coro...al-kudlow.html

    Coronavirus will delay export ‘boom’ from US-China phase 1 trade deal, Larry Kudlow says

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post

    Unrelated: the last batch of Trump's socialist farmer bailouts is on their way out right now. The money's gone.

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    Serious questions, was this "bailout" in the form of loans or just straight up subsidies like most farm "help" is under the current farm programs?
    I am honestly too lazy right now to read the whole actual program

    https://www.farmers.gov/manage/mfp

    hmm, seems like its the standard free money grab
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zan15 View Post
    Only took one problem for the trump admin to use as an excuse that the goals set in "phase one" won't be met, shocked it took so long... lol

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/04/coro...al-kudlow.html

    Coronavirus will delay export ‘boom’ from US-China phase 1 trade deal, Larry Kudlow says

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    Serious questions, was this "bailout" in the form of loans or just straight up subsidies like most farm "help" is under the current farm programs?
    I am honestly too lazy right now to read the whole actual program

    https://www.farmers.gov/manage/mfp

    hmm, seems like its the standard free money grab
    And I had a Trumpkin on another site declare that the bailouts to farmers being strangled by Trumps failing trade policies wasn't socialism. I pointed out its cost something like twice the auto bailout and odds are we'll never see the money again and that most of the funds have gone to large corporate farms rather than small farmers the way Trump wants people to think. They never answered on that part.
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  9. #35869
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Meanwhile, some more good news for Trump.....https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...ce-gallup-says

    New polling by Gallup reveals that President Trump's approval rating is at an all-time high, as he prepares to deliver his third State of the Union address Tuesday night and the Senate is expected to acquit him in his impeachment trial on Wednesday.

    Trump's job approval rating now sits at 49 percent, with a 94 percent approval rating among Republicans and a 42 percent rating with independents, both numbers being highs for Trump's presidency. The GOP itself is also seeing a significant boost.
    Bad week for the Dems.

    Iowa turnout not as high as expected + optics of disarray. Candidates still jawing at each other. SoTU and Senste acquittal which Trump will brag about nonstop, I'm sure.

    They need to get their act together, quick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Bad week for the Dems.

    Iowa turnout not as high as expected + optics of disarray. Candidates still jawing at each other. SoTU and Senste acquittal which Trump will brag about nonstop, I'm sure.

    They need to get their act together, quick.
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...roval-ratings/ his numbers are, from all accounts, still dreadful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zan15 View Post
    was this "bailout" in the form of
    Bulk of Trump's U.S. farm aid goes to biggest and wealthiest farmers

    Highlighting an uneven distribution of the bailout, which was designed to help offset effects of the U.S.-China trade war, the Environmental Working Group said the top 1% of aid recipients received an average of more than $180,000 while the bottom 80% were paid less than $5,000 in aid.

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  12. #35872
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Meanwhile, some more good news for Trump.....https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...ce-gallup-says

    New polling by Gallup reveals that President Trump's approval rating is at an all-time high, as he prepares to deliver his third State of the Union address Tuesday night and the Senate is expected to acquit him in his impeachment trial on Wednesday.

    Trump's job approval rating now sits at 49 percent, with a 94 percent approval rating among Republicans and a 42 percent rating with independents, both numbers being highs for Trump's presidency. The GOP itself is also seeing a significant boost.
    Polls are back to mattering again?
    Can you provide a link to the newsletter that states when they do and dont cause it's hard to tell with all the swapping you're doing.

  13. #35873
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Meanwhile, some more good news for Trump.....https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...ce-gallup-says

    New polling by Gallup reveals that President Trump's approval rating is at an all-time high, as he prepares to deliver his third State of the Union address Tuesday night and the Senate is expected to acquit him in his impeachment trial on Wednesday.

    Trump's job approval rating now sits at 49 percent, with a 94 percent approval rating among Republicans and a 42 percent rating with independents, both numbers being highs for Trump's presidency. The GOP itself is also seeing a significant boost.
    A.k.a. "More than half the country still doesn't like him at all and we need to take this as as win as Trump has no wins to speak of."

    When you need to take some more people liking him, but still not the majority, as a win you are really reaching. Let's talk instead about the last good thing he did, I'm sure you'd be able to tell me @Ghostpanther (if you didn't have me ignored).

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    Well, as Trump's peace plan (as much a peace plan as the tax cut help the poor) rolls out to exactly what we expected, I guess it's time for Kushner and Netanyahu to shake hands and agree mission accomplished.

    Israeli settler leader: 'Kushner took a knife and put it in Netanyahu's back'

    Yeah, that's pretty much what...wait, what?

    An Israeli settler leader and supporter of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu accused senior White House adviser Jared Kushner of betraying the prime minister by slowing down the annexation of the West Bank.

    David Elhayani, the chairman of the Yesha Council that manages more than 150 settlements, condemned Kushner for misleading Netanyahu after he endorsed President Trump’s Middle East peace plan, The Washington Post reported.

    “Kushner took a knife and put it in Netanyahu’s back,” he told The Washington Post. “Kushner misled the prime minister. He misled everybody. He knew for a long time that Netanyahu wanted to declare sovereignty over the Jordan Valley and northern Dead Sea — he said it many times over the last year. Gentlemen just don’t act this way.”

    Elhayani continued saying that Kushner, Trump's son-in-law, may cost the prime minister the March 2 election if he pushes back on annexing the settlements right away.

    The settler leader said a senior U.S. official told them that if the Palestinians didn’t agree to the plan within 48 hours, Israel would be permitted to annex more than 30 percent of the West Bank.

    “But something happened after that; they changed their minds,” he said, according to the Post.

    Kushner has told reporters, and allegedly Israeli officials, that the annexation should wait until after the election and a new government is formed, the Post reported.
    Jesus fucking Christ Oi vey Sweet babaganouj By the stained trousers of Argus Wow, what the hell? So, the peace plan made nobody happy?

    Look, we all know Trump has the diplomatic skill of that frozen burrito that I thought would be okay in my freezing car overnight (spoiler alert: I have a car cleaning appointment for Thursday at 3) but I was pretty sure he'd go all-in on "Israel gets everything, ???, profit". But this? This goes below what minimal bar Trump set. The Palestinians are angry, the Arab League called it useless, and now Israel's upset too? I know less about Middle East politics than I do about the thawing temperature of burritos, but even I could have made a plan that made one country happy.

    Well, guess that's another thing you won't hear at the SotU tonight.

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  15. #35875
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...ent-interview/

    During Donald Trump’s presidential transition in December 2016, “Fox News Sunday” host Chris Wallace snagged a ride-along with the president-elect to the Army-Navy game, as well as a wide-ranging interview. The tete-a-tete came off as a typical Wallace enterprise: He asked tough questions about Russian election interference, the roles of Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner in Trump’s administration, the president-elect’s views on climate and so on.

    There appears to have been another hot topic on Wallace’s list. By the time the interview rolled around, there was a good bit of reporting about the rot in the transition operation. As CNN’s Jake Tapper and Eric Bradner reported several days before, the Trump transition team had requested security clearance for Michael Flynn Jr., son of soon-to-be-short-term national security adviser Michael Flynn. The younger Flynn had actively promoted the “Pizzagate” conspiracy theory, which suggested that Democratic operatives were connected to a pedophilia ring located at a D.C. restaurant. An armed man was inspired by the bizarre scenario to visit the place, ostensibly to investigate matters for himself: He ultimately fired three shots inside the restaurant after patrons and staff evacuated it.

    Recently released documents show that Stephen K. Bannon, then a top Trump adviser, said in an interview with the office of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III that Trump drew a blank on the Flynn Jr. situation when Wallace asked him about it. Yet that moment didn’t show up in the Wallace-Trump interview. “It was embarrassing for Trump, and Fox agreed to cut out that part of the interview," reads the interview document.
    So Fox News intentionally edited out embarrassing material for Trump from one of their early interviews.

    Which is ironic if you remember this dust-up with conservative media -

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...broadcast.html

    I'm sure all these conservative outlets will be criticizing Fox any minute now. Aaaaaaannnnnyyyyy mmmmiiinnnnnuuuuttttteeeeee.

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    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/02/04/p...edium=referral

    And because awards are now totally meaningless and have reached the, "participation trophy" leve, Trump wants to give Rush Limbaugh a Medal of Freedom.

    Once upon a time, presidential awards and pardons were things of considerable impact, influence, and weight. Now, they're casual favors you do for a guy who spent his lifetime being a vile, repulsive, hateful human being towards others. Because I guess since he has cancer we're all supposed to forget about this long and sordid history or something.

  16. #35876
    Quote Originally Posted by D Luniz View Post
    Polls are back to mattering again?
    Can you provide a link to the newsletter that states when they do and dont cause it's hard to tell with all the swapping you're doing.
    Oh, you missed? It's simple.

    Poll that is negative w.r.t. Trump: doesn't matter and probably fake.
    Poll that is positive w.r.t. Trump: absolute truths that have to referenced as much as humanly possible.

  17. #35877
    Quote Originally Posted by D Luniz View Post
    Polls are back to mattering again?
    Can you provide a link to the newsletter that states when they do and dont cause it's hard to tell with all the swapping you're doing.
    It;s quite simple, if it makes them(conservatives) look good then pools are good and can be trusted. If they make them look bad, then polls are no good and cannot be trusted, or as they like to say, fake news. It's pretty transparent and pathetic if you ask me.

  18. #35878
    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    This Alaska thingy, when are u guys giving it back to us?? Soon, I hope, would be sweet.

    Seriously? Breitbart? And are you admitting to being a Russian? That would explain a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Bad week for the Dems.

    Iowa turnout not as high as expected + optics of disarray. Candidates still jawing at each other. SoTU and Senste acquittal which Trump will brag about nonstop, I'm sure.

    They need to get their act together, quick.
    And in two weeks no one will remember any of this and Trump will fuck up in some other way, and the world continues to turn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    And because awards are now totally meaningless and have reached the, "participation trophy" leve, Trump wants to give Rush Limbaugh a Medal of Freedom.

    Once upon a time, presidential awards and pardons were things of considerable impact, influence, and weight. Now, they're casual favors you do for a guy who spent his lifetime being a vile, repulsive, hateful human being towards others. Because I guess since he has cancer we're all supposed to forget about this long and sordid history or something.
    I just saw this. A medal of freedom to a god damn political pundit. I didn't think it would get much more ridiculous than when he gave one to the guy who wrote an economic theory that justified their tax cuts.

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