1. #39901
    Quote Originally Posted by Levelfive View Post
    This is a letter sent in to Talking Points Memo--I thought I'd share it since we're seeing it play out right here:

    "I wanted to write in with a different perspective than the one I’m seeing take hold among progressives. I work in oil and gas (yes; yes; I know. I’m sorry) and, as such, I interact with conservatives all the time. It’s interesting watching the conservative id coalesce as it does.

    Initially, they have some diversity of opinion as new facts come to light and then they all eventually fall in line behind the command and control structure that is the conservative mind meld.

    In the beginning, I saw a lot of what I think most people assumed was mainline conservative thinking: that the virus wasn’t a big deal; that it was just another H1N1 and we should just ignore it.

    But, there was a second group that more closely aligned with this new Trump/Dan Patrick thinking. The comments I heard went something like this, “This is going to sound bad, but 2% really isn’t that many people and it’s mostly old people anyway. They’ve lived a good life. Overpopulation is a major problem and it will also help with social security.”

    I’m writing in because I fear we are treating this as a more fringe idea than it actually is. I don’t think this is Trump reacting to his properties being forced to close or to a Fox News segment he saw. I think this has serious legs. …

    It’s part Ebeenezer Scrooge morality; part inability/unwillingness to comprehend the scope of horror coronavirus is capable of inflicting on us. Of course, implicit in their thinking is that it won’t affect them.

    We must be clear-eyed about what we’re up against. These people absolutely do not give a shit if 2.2 million people die. And they lack the imagination to understand what exceeding our hospital bed capacity by 30X looks like.

    I really don’t think this is Trump sending out a trial balloon by himself. This is mainline Republican thinking and we should act accordingly."


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    Whatever happened to the "pro-life" republicans? Oh yeah, they never existed.

  2. #39902
    Quote Originally Posted by Thekri View Post
    Eh, I am well over that threshold, and I am totally fine with it. I do not need or want a check, I will be fine. I would just give it to a food bank or something anyway.
    You know if you have to much money, there is plenty of people you can help. You dont need to be a ass about it, or maybe you have to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodonius View Post
    You know if you have to much money, there is plenty of people you can help. You dont need to be a ass about it, or maybe you have to?
    Wasn't intending to be an ass. Just saying that not everyone needs a check. Should probably have dropped out the last sentence, because you are right, that does look pretty douchey.
    "We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. We have it under control. It’s going to be just fine." DJT- Jan 22, 2020
    "And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done." DJT- Feb 26, 2020
    “It’s going to disappear. One day — it’s like a miracle — it will disappear.” DJT- Feb 27, 2020

  4. #39904
    its ok all those rich folks and corporate heads will be able to afford to fly to other countries after Easter when our medical system collapses.

    They will get care in countries that did not re-open.


    the rest of us are fucked, won't even be able to find Tylenol
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  5. #39905
    Quote Originally Posted by Thekri View Post
    Wasn't intending to be an ass. Just saying that not everyone needs a check. Should probably have dropped out the last sentence, because you are right, that does look pretty douchey.
    Its ok, we all type to fast sometimes.

  6. #39906
    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    Whatever happened to the "pro-life" republicans? Oh yeah, they never existed.
    No they have always been "Pro-Life" you just missed the asterisk next to Pro-Life. Where it basically boils down to Pro-Life pertaining from the moment the sperm meets the egg to the birth of the fetus. Any time before and/or after said period are not covered by said Pro-Life protections.

  7. #39907
    Quote Originally Posted by pathora44 View Post
    No they have always been "Pro-Life" you just missed the asterisk next to Pro-Life. Where it basically boils down to Pro-Life pertaining from the moment the sperm meets the egg to the birth of the fetus. Any time before and/or after said period are not covered by said Pro-Life protections.
    Yup pro fetus straight to fuck you don't care if you die, cause I got mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zan15 View Post
    sigh....even someone at work tried to have the same conversation with me, I shut him down so fast.
    He was all about "his wife" not getting paid anymore. Who cares about anyone else.

    Sheep are sheep
    This is actually the biggest problem with Trumpkins. They care only for themselves and cannot see past the next corner.
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  9. #39909
    Quote Originally Posted by Zan15 View Post
    its ok all those rich folks and corporate heads will be able to afford to fly to other countries after Easter when our medical system collapses.

    They will get care in countries that did not re-open.


    the rest of us are fucked, won't even be able to find Tylenol
    If everything reopened and it became endemic other countries will close their borders to the US. Those rich people aren't going to be fleeing to anywhere at that point.
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    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
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    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

  10. #39910
    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    Donald Trump wants the churches filled by Easter!

    Yes. Churches filled with predominantly old people.

    No way it ends badly. No way.
    Donald Trump will be directly responsible for the deaths of hundreds/thousands at that point. Not just one scared idiot who thought it was a good idea to look to Trump for medical advice.

    Politically, this is FANTASTIC for Democrats.

    But morally, this is abhorrent and I hope nobody listens to him. It's not worth the risk.

    Edit: https://twitter.com/XEECEEVEVO/statu...96024325632000

    Found this amusing though. I guess some conservatives have decided to write their own Bioshock-esque diary entries after a whopping 4 days couped up?

    And it's not even good, even with the theological angle introduced.

    Though pearl clutching about "saving lives" is sure a strange look for someone I imagine is in the anti-abortion crowd.

    I guess the economy is more important than lives and fetuses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    The current Democrat bill in the House seems to be $1,500US per person who has under $75,000 income. Also their kids. It does not mysteriously drop to half that because you're poor. And it extends furloughed people's salaries for up to four months, also known as "Easter and then three and a half more months".

    Maybe you're reading this and thinking "this is a blatant way to one-up Trump".

    You would be correct.
    I love that the House/Senate/SecTreas are negotiating this deal, completely ignoring Trump's daily rallies pressers, and doing what is generally good for the country.
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    Oh, man, I'm going to get in so much trouble for this...but....

    Quote Originally Posted by Zan15 View Post
    "the cure is worse than the virus"
    Epic Rap Battles of History!

    Tonight!

    ADAM SMITH!

    Versus!

    ROBERT SMITH!

    Begin!

    Ach, ya dark-eye'd bushy-hair'd prissiness,
    It's time for a doctor to give you the business!
    Ya cannae stop the economy, as I said to Voltaire,
    Hands off ma wallat, lasssez mans off ma faire!

    I'm smart enough ta know ya cannae close for a cold,
    I went to university at fourteen years old!
    Went ta Glasgow and Oxford ta get ma degrees
    While you pranced aboot Europe, wailing with th' Banshees!

    Dinnae say tis evil for businesses to run free!
    It's th' economy!
    Not morality!
    It's up ta your society!
    Keeping taverns and pubs in a permanent slumber?
    Paychecks getting number?
    That's just dumber!
    That's wha I call a Wrong Number!


    Mate, you know what's ironic the most?
    You died of an illness that's still undiagnosed!
    I know that every economist has Pictures of You,
    But dying for a few pounds, love? That just won't do!

    Look, people are still scared of every last cough.
    Stay inside for two weeks? That's just Never Enough!
    You heard fromm doctors Redfield and Fauci
    It's be In Between sixty Days, oh, ouchie!

    This is worse than the flu, it's worse than SARS,
    And it's not just me that's dropping sick bars.
    So until you have a medical degree,
    I don't want you standing Close to Me.


    Fifteen days is enough! Th' date will be held!
    I'm not listening ta some goth fairy who got expelled!

    When it comes ta corporations
    I've built th' foundations!
    And I've got more publications
    Than ya have Grammy nominations!
    So let me just check in,
    I hear ya reckon
    Ta close every Starbucks, and
    Delicatessen?
    That's too much stressin'!
    With their jobs you're messin'!
    I can teach better lessons
    In Seventeen Seconds!


    Look, it's a bloody pandemic. There are thousands of cases about.
    If you open up your mouth, you're responsible for what comes out!
    Maybe Boys Don't Cry, but they still cough and sneeze.
    Just look how bloody Italy's suffering from this disease!

    If everyone gets back together, just after April eleven,
    Then what we're seeing now will seem Just like Heaven.
    If all the workers get sick or die, what happens to your corporation?
    It'll be just like your rhymes, love,
    pfffft...
    Disintegration.


    Who Won? Who's Next? YOU DECIDE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Levelfive View Post
    This is a letter sent in to Talking Points Memo--I thought I'd share it since we're seeing it play out right here:

    "I wanted to write in with a different perspective than the one I’m seeing take hold among progressives. I work in oil and gas (yes; yes; I know. I’m sorry) and, as such, I interact with conservatives all the time. It’s interesting watching the conservative id coalesce as it does.

    Initially, they have some diversity of opinion as new facts come to light and then they all eventually fall in line behind the command and control structure that is the conservative mind meld.

    In the beginning, I saw a lot of what I think most people assumed was mainline conservative thinking: that the virus wasn’t a big deal; that it was just another H1N1 and we should just ignore it.

    But, there was a second group that more closely aligned with this new Trump/Dan Patrick thinking. The comments I heard went something like this, “This is going to sound bad, but 2% really isn’t that many people and it’s mostly old people anyway. They’ve lived a good life. Overpopulation is a major problem and it will also help with social security.”

    I’m writing in because I fear we are treating this as a more fringe idea than it actually is. I don’t think this is Trump reacting to his properties being forced to close or to a Fox News segment he saw. I think this has serious legs. …

    It’s part Ebeenezer Scrooge morality; part inability/unwillingness to comprehend the scope of horror coronavirus is capable of inflicting on us. Of course, implicit in their thinking is that it won’t affect them.

    We must be clear-eyed about what we’re up against. These people absolutely do not give a shit if 2.2 million people die. And they lack the imagination to understand what exceeding our hospital bed capacity by 30X looks like.

    I really don’t think this is Trump sending out a trial balloon by himself. This is mainline Republican thinking and we should act accordingly."


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    The thought process where they get to it being ok that 2-3% of our population dies in order to keep the economy going is sickening. And the complete ignorance that it won't affect their family...I can't even. The mentality Trump has fully affirmed in the United States really makes me wonder if we'll ever recover. Even if Trump loses the election, he'll keep speaking out, carrying that thought process.
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    The White House is apparently pushing for price transparency in the upcoming bill, in their ongoing stand against hoarding and gouging.

    "What's wrong with that?"

    Nothing. People should know what their treatment will cost. For example...

    (puts on sunglasses)

    If someone lies to the entire nation that their treatment will be covered by insurance, when that's not the truth, they should be singled out and taken to task for it.

    (walks away from an explosion)

    No-one is above the law.

  15. #39915
    Quote Originally Posted by Twdft View Post
    Imagine being this empty of a person.
    Not much to imagine. He is one of those Trump supporting Republicans that say that everyone should pick themselves up by their bootstraps, but the minute his livelihood is threatened he begs for that socialism he hates so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trunksee View Post
    Your right his response wasn't up to par. But I don't think there was ever a way of stopping this once it broke initial containment in china. We do business all over the world and it was eventually going to reach us. No country has faired well that relies on other countries economically. This was inevitable.
    No reasonable person expected him to prevent the pandemic, what people did expect is for him to take fucking basic precautions like ordering test kits from the WHO months ago when the WHO offered to supply them. Trump was too fucking stupid to understand that a pandemic was a possible outcome of COV1D-19, and as a result he chose to not prepare for it. Now we have states playing catch-up on everything because our POTUS has the foresight of a goldfish and an inability to accept facts that he dislikes. The federal government is in various stages of "deciding whether or not to act" and "playing catch-up". Trump still can't see beyond the next 10 minutes, he is still in the "needs to be convinced that this pandemic a very real crisis" category of people.

    His current response is just as bad as his initial response. Claiming that he is doing a good job with his response is ignorant at best, or otherwise outright delusional. I doubt he understands that there is a disturbing possibility of this virus trending into the millions (in the USA alone), and the death toll can easily rise into the hundreds of thousands(once again, in the USA alone) if we decide to just pretend there isn't a pandemic occurring.

    His suggestion of having people just carry on as normal is insane or insanely stupid; there is no positive way to interpret any of the bullshit coming from the POTUS unless you're a fan of ignoring facts.
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  17. #39917
    Quote Originally Posted by kaid View Post
    Weird thing if he cancelled the elections we would wind up with president layhe. If there was no election all the house of reps would wind up being empty because their terms are up as would the president and vice president. Going down the line given the GOP has more seats open in senate than democrats very likely the senior member of the democrats senators would get it and I think that's layhe.
    The actual presidential election is set in the constitution. He can’t cancel it.
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    100:1 odds that he wont
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    Okay. I'll stop sharing my views.

  18. #39918
    That was horrible. Again.
    It also got me really sleepy. I wanted to exercise a bit before going to bed <_<

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    The actual presidential election is set in the constitution. He can’t cancel it.
    That paper has never stopped this batch of Senators.
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    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok

  20. #39920
    Birx: "We are impressed by the numbers in Italy going down"
    Meanwhile they don't really plan to copy what Italy did.
    Oh and also the numbers went up again today.

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