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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapemask View Post
    To be fair, his numbers have risen about 2% in the average. It's baffling because for all the subjective reasons to like or hate Trump's regular shenanigans, his handling of this virus has been objectively bad. He has done literally nothing right. He's made things far worse. It makes you wonder if maybe people just like that he's showing up to actually be president and say stuff from the official president place, instead of screaming insanity in front of a helicopter.
    I keep saying the reason why. He is going to ride this straight to reelection if Democrats don't get their shit in order. Millions may die, but enough voters won't give a shit that he will get reelected anyway. Trump's brand of lies, deflections, blaming, and petty arguments is tailor made for surviving crisis. It doesn't help anyone else survive the crisis, but it will get him through. He will lose a few more followers, but he doesn't care. Toadies are easy to find.
    "We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. We have it under control. It’s going to be just fine." DJT- Jan 22, 2020
    "And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done." DJT- Feb 26, 2020
    “It’s going to disappear. One day — it’s like a miracle — it will disappear.” DJT- Feb 27, 2020

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    The last 4 polls have gave him a 50%+ rating on handling it...did you read the last sentence? This is how his approval handing of the Coronarvirus issue is. Real Clear Politics have him at 44.9% average overall approval rating as of today.

    What effect this will have on his reelection? That is yet to be seen.
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...roval-ratings/

    those last 5 polls listed surely don't put him at 50% that I see.

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    It's up to McConnell, but, Senators are already predicting they won't be back in session for three weeks.

    They were supposed to have a one week break last week, then two weeks ending April 3, then two weeks off. If the predictions are correct, they'll instead leave after this bill is finalized...then be gone three weeks, which for those of you playing the home game recognize, is well past Easter.

    We'll see what McConnell says. Just a reminder, McConnell is no stranger to working from home on medical advice. I think it's fairly likely he'll keep the Senate out of DC past Easter. Also, who wants to start a pool on which Reps and Senators are pictured in a packed Easter mass?

    Wouldn't it be great to have all of the churches full? You know the churches aren't allowed, essentially, to have much of a congregation there. You'll have packed churches all over our country. I think it would be a beautiful time.
    -- Trump said this today

    By the way, here is the FOX News video in which, amongst other things, Trump talks about the Witch Hunt, says there will be suicides by the thousands (more deaths that way than the virus), attacks the press and didn't bring Fauci.

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    lol what part of Texas? All the areas with good economies, and with a large amount of people, are heavily affected by this. Opening up some little podac county isn't gonna do squat for the economy. Opening up the cities is just aksing for another NYC, and I know for certain none of the major ones will give a shit what Trump says.

    Trump can fuck off.

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    And his approval rating is up even more now. It's like Americans live in an alternate universe. How on earth can he have gone up by almost 2% compared to only a few days ago when he handles the whole corona thing like this. Unbelievable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    lol what part of Texas? All the areas with good economies, and with a large amount of people, are heavily affected by this. Opening up some little podac county isn't gonna do squat for the economy. Opening up the cities is just aksing for another NYC, and I know for certain none of the major ones will give a shit what Trump says.

    Trump can fuck off.

    Shh don't tell them the biggest concentration of cases is also where all the GDP is.

    Total GDP end 2018 - 18.6 trillion

    LA county & 3 more with most cases GDP was 1.54 trillion dollars (out of 2.7)
    NYC + 5 boroughs $1.06 trillion dollars (out of states 1.4 trillion)
    Washington - Kings county + snoomish = 316 billion out of 511b

    etc etc etc....

    you can almost guess where the most cases are going to end up just by the gdp output.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...roval-ratings/

    those last 5 polls listed surely don't put him at 50% that I see.
    My post was in reference to his handling of the coronavirus issue. Not his overall approval rating, which even fivethirtyeight, has him higher than your 43% overall approval rating in general.

    They have him at 44.6%. Which is only .3% different than RealClear Politics average. lol!

    His approval rating of handling the coronavirus situation, the last 4 polls, is from 50 - 60%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    My post was in reference to his handling of the coronavirus issue. Not his overall approval rating, which even fivethirtyeight, has him higher than your 43% overall approval rating in general.

    They have him at 44.6%. Which is only .3% different than RealClear Politics average. lol!
    And those people who are supporting his handling of it, are FUCKING RETARDED. He has failed at every fucking corner, contradicted the fucking experts, and is more worried about his legacy with his economy, than he is about people fucking dying. Even going as far as saying that it was "too bad" that Mitt Romney was being quarantined sarcastically because of that fucking moron Rand Paul being infected. He has no shame, no empathy, and deserves to be put in a fucking mental ward.

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    I'm still waiting to find out what people are approving of exactly. Trump has made this problem worse from the start and continues doing so even today.

    Would love a good answer from a supporter that isn't vague.

    Until that time we can only assume it's an extra 10% of low information idiots that would support any president during any crisis just because they feel like they are supposed to.
    Last edited by Blur4stuff; 2020-03-25 at 12:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blur4stuff View Post
    I'm still waiting to find out what people are approving of exactly. Trump has made this problem worse from the start and continues doing so even today.

    Would love a good answer from a supporter that isn't vague.

    Until that time we can only assume it's an extra 10% of low information idiots that would support any president during any crisis just because they feel like they are supposed to.
    Wait until we get into the full swing of infected people. We're still at the point where people are comparing this (incorrectly) to H1N1 and that this is just media hype. Once hospitals in New York, Los Angeles, and Chicago start becoming overloaded with patients and the decisions have to be made on who gets to stay in the ICU and who gets a ventilator becomes a thing we'll see how much it changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blur4stuff View Post
    I'm still waiting to find out what people are approving of exactly. Trump has made this problem worse from the start and continues doing so even today.

    Would love a good answer from a supporter that isn't vague.

    Until that time we can only assume it's an extra 10% of low information idiots that would support any president during any crisis just because they feel like they are supposed to.
    There is data that backs the idea that people support a "war-time" president. Obviously, we're not at war - but it's the same mentality. Which is where his uptick in approval comes from, regardless of the reality of how he's handling it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain N View Post
    Wait until we get into the full swing of infected people. We're still at the point where people are comparing this (incorrectly) to H1N1 and that this is just media hype. Once hospitals in New York, Los Angeles, and Chicago start becoming overloaded with patients and the decisions have to be made on who gets to stay in the ICU and who gets a ventilator becomes a thing we'll see how much it changes.
    I'm deeply concerned about how the Trump rhetoric is going to change once that starts happening. Once big cities, who largely vote democrat, start dying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blur4stuff View Post
    I'm still waiting to find out what people are approving of exactly. Trump has made this problem worse from the start and continues doing so even today.

    Would love a good answer from a supporter that isn't vague.

    Until that time we can only assume it's an extra 10% of low information idiots that would support any president during any crisis just because they feel like they are supposed to.
    lol! Well, those 10% idiots just might be enough to get him reelected. I do not think of them as idiots however. Just voters who do not share your disapproval of Trump. He needs a large support from the independents to get reelected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Actually, Iran is now saying the US offered help to them, too.

    And Iran claims they refused that help.



    I am now convinced both countries are trolling the US. Simply put, now's the time. Both dictators want to appear strong and defiant. There's no chance they'll be contradicted in any meaningful way (it's not like Trump can offer proof he didn't call them), so both countries are going to give themselves a big ol' boost by appearing to take on Trump, and winning.

    Gotta say, If Trump and his most fervent defenders continue to...how was it put, again?



    Oh, right. Yes. If Trump and the rabid fanbase are going to use that, Iran throwing "well we heard you made it" back in their face is just adorable. Maybe if Trump had kept calling it coronavirus or something else neutral, the IMPOTUS wouldn't be the subject of the same conspiracy theories on the public stage? Just a thought.

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    You wasted precious months when you could've taken action to protect Americans & Illinoisans.

    You should be leading a national response instead of throwing tantrums from the back seat.

    Where were the tests when we needed them?

    Where's the PPE?

    Get off Twitter & do your job.

    -- the Governor of Illinois

    "PPE?"

    Personal Protective Equipment. The masks and gowns Pelosi was talking about, that Trump is outbidding states for, that Trump suggested he'd use DPA for but hasn't yet.
    I find it adorable you would take the sides of dictators and foreign adversaries in order to spite the president that can be voted out in November and our own country. Trump started calling it the china virus after China accused the US of creating it in a lab. If anything Trump was the one that started trolling them first like they deserve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenJesus View Post
    I find it adorable you would take the sides of dictators and foreign adversaries in order to spite the president that can be voted out in November and our own country. Trump started calling it the china virus after China accused the US of creating it in a lab. If anything Trump was the one that started trolling them first like they deserve.
    Racism is not trolling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenJesus View Post
    I find it adorable you would take the sides of dictators and foreign adversaries in order to spite the president that can be voted out in November and our own country. Trump started calling it the china virus after China accused the US of creating it in a lab. If anything Trump was the one that started trolling them first like they deserve.
    I'm going to wager that our unknown 10% are probably like these folks who seem to imply anyone who doesn't fully support our president in time of crisis is siding with dictators.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapemask View Post
    I'm going to wager that our unknown 10% are probably like these folks who seem to imply anyone who doesn't fully support our president in time of crisis is siding with dictators.
    I replied to the person that supports Iran and China spouting fake news that our country's military started the virus. Regardless of if you like Trump or not it is disgusting. Maybe try learning some nuance here? People can not like the president, but also not support taking sides with foreign adversaries just to spite him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    lol what part of Texas? All the areas with good economies, and with a large amount of people, are heavily affected by this. Opening up some little podac county isn't gonna do squat for the economy. Opening up the cities is just aksing for another NYC, and I know for certain none of the major ones will give a shit what Trump says.

    Trump can fuck off.
    Are you saying Lubbock isn't a world leading economic center???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    Are you saying Lubbock isn't a world leading economic center???
    I'll have you know they are the leading exporter of dust storms!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenJesus View Post
    I find it adorable you would take the sides of dictators and foreign adversaries
    *LOUD ANNOYING BUZZER*

    Never took their side. I even called them trolls. You saw me do it.

    What you said is objectively false. You are lying.

    Quote Originally Posted by GreenJesus View Post
    Trump started calling it the china virus after China accused the US of creating it in a lab.
    *LOUD ANNOYING BUZZER*

    Pompeo was calling it the "Wuhan virus" as early as March 7. It's hailed as new language.

    The Chinese government floated the "US created it in a lab" conspiracy theory 5 days later.

    What you said is objectively false. You are lying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenJesus View Post
    I replied to the person that supports Iran and China spouting fake news
    *LOUD ANNOYING BUZZER*

    You said I support Iran and China. I did no such thing. What you said is objectively false. You are lying.

    No-one is above the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post

    Hell, it might even get the November election canceled altogether.
    Canceling an election doesn't matter, constitutionally. His term expires in the 3rd week of January, 2021. If there has been no elected President in that time, it triggers a real, actual, honest to goodness Constitutional crisis. And there are two possibilities to come out from that: the next person in the line of succession becomes President, which would be Nancy Pelosi. Or, the House elects a President. It's been awhile since I took Con Law, but I think the latter applies. And the Democratic-Controlled House could literally elect anyone to the Presidency. Neither of these results are anything Trump wants.

    He can't cancel House elections, the states are too organized with their mail-in, absentee vote procedures (well, at least Blue states are). So there will be a House sitting in January 2021.

    And if he tries to cancel all elections, and hold on to power.........well then, time to depose the tyrant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaid View Post
    Weird thing if he cancelled the elections we would wind up with president layhe. If there was no election all the house of reps would wind up being empty because their terms are up as would the president and vice president. Going down the line given the GOP has more seats open in senate than democrats very likely the senior member of the democrats senators would get it and I think that's layhe.
    House elections are run by states, he can't cancel those, a state would have to. And many blue states are well-equipped to run mail-in elections. Even if your hypothetical situation happened, I don't believe it's the most senior Majority member, I think it's based on party leadership - so Chuck Schumer would be President.

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