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    Quote Originally Posted by Twdft View Post
    Dude, that picture... 38k with private insurance... does it mean even if you have insurance it still would cost you personally 38k $? Is this some joke I am too German to understand?
    Going to depend wildly on the insurance, but my guess is that is the negotiated rate the insurance would pay the hospital. What portion of that amount the patient would be responsible for would depend on the plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twdft View Post
    Dude, that picture... 38k with private insurance... does it mean even if you have insurance it still would cost you personally 38k $? Is this some joke I am too German to understand?
    ACA-compliant insurance plans have a maximum out-of-pocket for the year, so if you have one of those you'd pay up to $8150 this year (more for a family). The amount shown in the table is just what the hospital is supposed to be reimbursed, you wouldn't owe that amount yourself.

  3. #40483
    Quote Originally Posted by Nellise View Post
    ACA-compliant insurance plans have a maximum out-of-pocket for the year, so if you have one of those you'd pay up to $8150 this year (more for a family). The amount shown in the table is just what the hospital is supposed to be reimbursed, you wouldn't owe that amount yourself.
    Unfortunately the Trump administration lowered ACA compliance standards a while ago if the numbers are correct around 87 million Americans are now under insured or have no insurance at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacien View Post
    Y'all trip out on the wierdest stuff. I never would have guessed in a million years this would be the gripe. He meant "don't call because you won't get anywhere", not "don't call because we don't want to help them". The entire thing was said in a real light-hearted way too.
    Man, i really hope enablers like you will get their just punishment somehow. You will excuse everything. Well, the blood of the people who's death could be prevented will be on your hands too.

    Fucking enablers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacien View Post
    Y'all trip out on the wierdest stuff. I never would have guessed in a million years this would be the gripe. He meant "don't call because you won't get anywhere", not "don't call because we don't want to help them". The entire thing was said in a real light-hearted way too.
    It's 2020 and we're still doing the 'what he meant was' every time Trump opens his mouth...
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    I'd rather lose with Biden then try with Bernard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    They weren't invited. Trump is that fucking childish and petty. I wouldn't want to go to it either anyway.

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    In other news Trish Regan from Fox Business was fired, "supposedly" for her comments about the Corona Virus being another "Democratic Impeachment Scam".

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-bu...ment-scam-rant

    Who wants to bet she ends up on something like Sputnik TV, OANN, or some other right wing bullshit conspiracy laden channel. Probably Infowars wouldn't be out of the question.
    That is fantastic news. As little as I watch Fox News we do get a "psycho-reel" highlights thing over here and that woman was the kingpin of that show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twdft View Post
    Dude, that picture... 38k with private insurance... does it mean even if you have insurance it still would cost you personally 38k $? Is this some joke I am too German to understand?
    No. It means, if you have insurance, things cost less because of deals made in the industry. How much you personally pay is based on your exact plan, including your deductible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arandomuser View Post
    suddenly, no longer chinese virus its now invisible enemy"
    Incidentally, it's only "invisible" if you don't have enough working tests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacien View Post
    Y'all trip out on the wierdest stuff. I never would have guessed in a million years this would be the gripe. He meant "don't call because you won't get anywhere", not "don't call because we don't want to help them". The entire thing was said in a real light-hearted way too.
    I'm curious...do you ever once have a part of your brain wake up and say "maybe if I keep having to explain what Trump actually meant I might be wrong..." or is your devotion entirely mindless and you never once feel any hesitation about having to rewrite what he says to make it "not so bad"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    I'm curious...do you ever once have a part of your brain wake up and say "maybe if I keep having to explain what Trump actually meant I might be wrong..." or is your devotion entirely mindless and you never once feel any hesitation about having to rewrite what he says to make it "not so bad"?
    It's just weird to watch people suddenly lose all sense of inflection or tone. I can watch Trump say something in a roundabout way, maybe not the most clearly, but with tone and facial cues I can follow what he's saying. Like anybody else. But some people out there just stare around dumbfounded, completely flummoxed, completely perplexed, can't make out these alien sounds coming from Trump's mouth! What is he saying? Will the madness ever end!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacien View Post
    It's just weird to watch people suddenly lose all sense of inflection or tone. I can watch Trump say something in a roundabout way, maybe not the most clearly, but with tone and facial cues I can follow what he's saying. Like anybody else.
    lol, good one.
    Thanks for the laugh. A little bit of humor is important in these times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacien View Post
    It's just weird to watch people suddenly lose all sense of inflection or tone. I can watch Trump say something in a roundabout way, maybe not the most clearly, but with tone and facial cues I can follow what he's saying. Like anybody else. But some people out there just stare around dumbfounded, completely flummoxed, completely perplexed, can't make out these alien sounds coming from Trump's mouth! What is he saying? Will the madness ever end!?
    Suddenly? This man has required your lot to explain “what he meant was” for years. Mostly because what he says and what “he means” don’t align at all. Even with tone and inflection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inuyaki View Post
    lol, good one.
    Thanks for the laugh. A little bit of humor is important in these times.
    You'll see it with humor a lot, too. People suddenly turn into aliens who aren't yet familiar with the humanoid concept of "com-o-dee".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Suddenly? This man has required your lot to explain “what he meant was” for years. Mostly because what he says and what “he means” don’t align at all. Even with tone and inflection.
    They align with what he does though, so this whole what he meant was makes no sense at all considering the what he does.
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    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacien View Post
    Y'all trip out on the wierdest stuff. I never would have guessed in a million years this would be the gripe. He meant "don't call because you won't get anywhere", not "don't call because we don't want to help them". The entire thing was said in a real light-hearted way too.
    "What he meant was". I'm glad I don't have to keep self deluding myself for years at a time to avoid my illusions being shattered.

  15. #40495
    Quote Originally Posted by arandomuser View Post
    yeah everyone who disagrees with trump and his awful behavior are triggered leftists
    like mitt romney
    john mccain
    joe scarborough
    joe walsh
    bill weld
    rick wilson
    david frum
    steve schmidt
    micheal steele
    jeb bush
    george bush
    john kasich
    bill kristol

    all those pink haired feminist sjws who dont like trump!!

    oh and people in his own admin lets not forget

    former sec of state
    rex tillerson
    chief of staff john kelly
    former communications director scaramucci
    secretary of defence jim mattis

    all crazy leftists. trump is the only true american conservative! you are 100% right
    Thanks for reporting me, by the way. LOL on this old ass post.
    If we could all sit and talk without demonizing one another and attempt to understand the opposite point of view, the collective world would be a better place. Mental bigotry is the worst of all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacien View Post
    You'll see it with humor a lot, too. People suddenly turn into aliens who aren't yet familiar with the humanoid concept of "com-o-dee".
    Point to where Trump is ever joking. Considering he doesn't like comedians I doubt he knows much of what actual comedy or jokes are.

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    Trump wanted personal signature on economic relief checks

    I don't know that that makes sense, since I thought I heard that these were advances on 2020 tax credits. It's tough to pin down some of the details, but it makes no sense at all for Trump to sign these checks. It really is a Trump brand President. Deluxe edition 2.0 now with stimulus checks! And a new hat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacien View Post
    Trump wanted personal signature on economic relief checks

    I don't know that that makes sense, since I thought I heard that these were advances on 2020 tax credits. It's tough to pin down some of the details, but it makes no sense at all for Trump to sign these checks. It really is a Trump brand President. Deluxe edition 2.0 now with stimulus checks! And a new hat!
    You know exactly why he wants his signature on each check.
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    Yeah I know. It'll take another 2 years + to knock Rozz and Flarelane down to size as Endus eventually was. Not worth the effort. My lack of posting here recently has been sort of 2-fold. One is because it's extremely boring watching the crazies come to the inevitable conclusion that they've failed. TDS seems to be an awfully persistent disease. Two is because I'm saving my infraction points to unleash unholy Hell when Trump wins re-election.

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    It's just weird to watch people suddenly lose all sense of inflection or tone. I can watch Trump say something in a roundabout way, maybe not the most clearly, but with tone and facial cues I can follow what he's saying. Like anybody else. But some people out there just stare around dumbfounded, completely flummoxed, completely perplexed, can't make out these alien sounds coming from Trump's mouth! What is he saying? Will the madness ever end!?
    Normal politicians say what they mean, you can write down what they said and someone else can read it later and get what the politician meant.

    Why would it be necessary to watch Trump and interpret what he meant? Is he too stupid to say what he means? Nobody should have to interpret tone and facial cues to get what the president of the united states says. If you are deaf or blind that's it then, no more info from your president?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    Point to where Trump is ever joking. Considering he doesn't like comedians I doubt he knows much of what actual comedy or jokes are.
    Best to ignore and move on, person ain't worth the time of day. We all know if someone else did it it would have been the worst crime on earth.

    Back on topic, seems donny dumbo is purposely holding back support for states he doesn't need in the election. Guess it was only a matter of time till the racists in the US went further on their actions to simply try to prevent coloured people from voting but to actually wish death on fellow Americans.

    Do wonder when America will have enough, plenty of intelligent folk over there. Can't imagine this kind of misconduct by the GOP will be tolerated for decades to come.
    I mean we already know that the reason the far right is so violent and aggressive is that this is their final moments before they get knocked back down to where cesspool they crawled out off, as the demographic is changing so much that dacien kids or grand kids will probably end up speaking english and spanish and marrying a coloured person.

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