Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Lenonis]

Poor cadets.

I'm assuming that because he's the commander-in-chief West Point couldn't tell him to f-off. Which is a shame as he's now putting these cadet's life at risk for no reason. Maybe he'll just top it all off by giving them shots of bleach to take when the enter the room.

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lots of previously chill friends that became basically trump/alt right sycophants

None of my close friends but two acquaintances. One become one of those "I'm a trump supporter but going to be coy about it" kind of like how Theo is here but without the pretentious word salad.

The other become a COVID-19 denier with a light sprinkling of conspiracy theories about it.

Both are no longer connected to me in any way nor do I plan on talking to them again. No need to have that around, especially when they are just acquaintances rather than friends I can try to talk it out of.

[Felya]

Trump's feelings are hurt so he must now like any insecure man child show off in front of our military to make him look good.

Oh this commencement speech will be 90% crying how unfair he has been treated. Poor cadets.

It’s important to note, this is the first time he is going to the graduation since President. I feel like Trump getting sick during this event, might actually be the only chance we have for a reasonable response to corona. If he gets it, stopping it, becomes an issue for Trump, it might be the only way to save Americans. He won’t sacrifice him self to the economy, so his support might see that this isn’t the flu and Trump isn’t drinking bleach or sticking a flashlight up his own ass.

I’m not saying I want Trump hurt or suffering, but tell me another way Trump takes the disease personally? If he had it, he wouldn’t be making dangerous claims as cures, but can talk about him being the best at recovery and how he did it. Trump calling him self the champion of corona, might be our only hope to get this disease handled. As it stands, I don’t think it will be a good idea for US to be late or last in recovery... that’s the opposite of how we got rich after WW2.

[Lenonis]

I’m not saying I want Trump hurt or suffering, but tell me another way Trump takes the disease personally?

The unfortunate thing is you are probably right that only him getting it would break through his complete lack of empathy but you have to remember he's a notorious germaphobe so he probably just naturally engages in a lot of behaviors that protect him like hand washing, not touching your face, etc.

[Felya]

The other become a COVID-19 denier with a light sprinkling of conspiracy theories about it.

I have a family chain txt going since the corona break. In that thread, I made a comment that since Amish are 2 weeks behind, they still think it’s a hoax. With one of them responding that they must Amish. With wonderful images of Fucie (sp?) drawing connections to Clinton and then they asked how such a rat survived Trump this long.

It’s where I got that ‘smoking helps corona symptoms’ Brietbart article... it’s my in, to what alt right isn’t supposed to say out loud.

[D Luniz]

Anyone else since this is a gaming forum, had lots of previously chill friends that became basically trump/alt right sycophants especially post gg? I think this is the worst part of trumps presidency,, before if you had a republican friend maybe you would have a debate sometimes about spending or foreign policy, but now you have one side talking about things like race iq, conspiracy theories like pizzagate, calling climate change a hoax, saying russians are the good guys. I just feel like i literally cant be friends with any trump supporter, but i also just dont understand how deep its penetrated young people like here on this forum, not just old boomers who watch fox news, and it feels like theres nothing we can do because expert opinions from career professionals dont make good "memes"

An odd weirdness of this reality is that in Texas, almost everyone I meet that works in the environmental field is hard right republicans(listen to Limbaugh and such)

They'll rant against environmental regs yet are actively working to maintain and enforce the system.

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The unfortunate thing is you are probably right that only him getting it would break through his complete lack of empathy but you have to remember he's a notorious germaphobe so he probably just naturally engages in a lot of behaviors that protect him like hand washing, not touching your face, etc.

he's notorious about claiming to be a germaphobe. His actions suggest otherwise.

[solinari6]

he's notorious about claiming to be a germaphobe. His actions suggest otherwise.

Yeah, a germaphobe wouldn't be shaking people's hands during a frickin' pandemic! lol

[Tazkar]

Yeah, a germaphobe wouldn't be shaking people's hands during a frickin' pandemic! lol

Nor packing in tightly with a bunch of people on a podium.

[Breccia]

you know if trump really was being sarcastic why didnt he say something

Oh, we all know that Trump lied when he said he was being sarcastic.

That's why the rabid fanbase rushing out to defend his earlier statements is so hilarious. Now they spent all that effort looking into any possible angle at which Trump could be correct, only for Trump himself to say "No, I was sarcastic".

They have to either say "Well, Trump was sarcastic, so when I said Trump did the right thing, I guess I am wrong"

Or.

"Trump lied when he said he was being sarcastic."

I gave them 24 hours, as per usual. Haven't gotten much back except crickets chirping and admission of cowardice.

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"That was news to everyone, including officials at West Point."

That's how many times in a week Trump just made shit up and everyone had to rush out to make it true? The immigration and bleach/UVC thing make this three by my count.

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You know this article was written with much sighing and rolling of eyes.

Potentially Promising Covid-19 Vaccine Hits Roadblock After Testing Reveals It’s Just Shotgun

Despite very encouraging trials in which every subject who received the vaccine developed complete immunity to the novel coronavirus, further study has revealed several serious side effects, among them the fact that 100% of these participants also had their heads blown clean off

The sadness of a timeline is directly proportional to how many words of an Onion article you have to read before you realize it's fake. How far into this article do YOU have to read to know if it's real or satire?

Trump coronavirus briefings put health officials in bind

Trump frequently uses the briefings to settle scores with the media, and his efforts to put a positive spin on the news and his administration’s actions has led him to embrace ideas that lack scientific backing.

He then sometimes asks the scientists and doctors around him to weigh in or offer support, putting them in an impossible spot.

It’s been an issue throughout the timeline of the briefings, but it has particularly been under a spotlight this week.

Trump on Wednesday urged Robert Redfield, the director of the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), to publicly denounce a Washington Post headline even though Redfield acknowledged he was quoted correctly in the story saying a second wave of coronavirus could prove more difficult for the country.

On Thursday, Trump publicly disagreed with Anthony Fauci, the government's top infectious diseases expert, saying he felt the nation’s testing capacity was adequate after the physician said hours earlier that the country needed to “significantly ramp up” its capabilities.

Trump separately on Thursday asked a visibly uneasy Deborah Birx to weigh in on the concept of injecting coronavirus patients with disinfectant or exposing them to ultraviolet light, forcing her to gently explain that she had never heard of such a regimen being used to treat coronavirus.

“I'm not a doctor. But I’m like a person that has a good you-know-what,” Trump said Thursday, gesturing to his head.

The remarks were widely refuted and mocked before the White House issued a statement clarifying that Trump has urged Americans to ask their doctors about treatment, and Trump later insisted he was being sarcastic.

[Lenonis]

he's notorious about claiming to be a germaphobe. His actions suggest otherwise.

I suppose the proper nuance is he's a germaphobe unless one of his other more strong drives override it.

For instance -- sex (because a real germaphobe wouldn't screw porn stars).

Also his narcissism. We all know the only reason he's not wearing a mask 24/7 is because he thinks he'll look dumb.

But there is quite a bit of evidence he's fairly germaphobic otherwise in normal day-to-day stuff.

[Fugus]

I suppose the proper nuance is he's a germaphobe unless one of his other more strong drives override it.

For instance -- sex (because a real germaphobe wouldn't screw porn stars).

Also his narcissism. We all know the only reason he's not wearing a mask 24/7 is because he thinks he'll look dumb.

But there is quite a bit of evidence he's fairly germaphobic otherwise in normal day-to-day stuff.

I personally don't think he is a germaphobe.

Not only does he have unprotected sex with porn stars like you said, he also was said to EAT paperwork to keep it from being read or kept in the record.

I think he just hates the thought or touching or dealing with people he sees as "Beneath Him" and using that lie is an easy out to avoid dealing with them without looking bad for it.

[Benggaul]

The unfortunate thing is you are probably right that only him getting it would break through his complete lack of empathy but you have to remember he's a notorious germaphobe so he probably just naturally engages in a lot of behaviors that protect him like hand washing, not touching your face, etc.

There was a pretty famous video going around at the start of this pandemic where Trump said he hadn't touched his face in a week. "I miss it" he said. Then of course cue the compilation of clips of him touching, rubbing and wiping his face dozens of times for the past week.

As others have mentioned: he may CLAIM he's a germaphobe, but he sure doesn't seem to suffer any of the compulsive behavior of one.

[Breccia]

Not only does he have unprotected sex with porn stars like you said

Whoa whoa whoa! That sex was totally protected! He had his lawyer drop off the money!

[Skulltaker]

Potentially Promising Covid-19 Vaccine Hits Roadblock After Testing Reveals It’s Just Shotgun



The sadness of a timeline is directly proportional to how many words of an Onion article you have to read before you realize it's fake. How far into this article do YOU have to read to know if it's real or satire?

Honestly thought 'it's just shotgun' was an english medical proverb I wasn't familiar with for a moment there.

[arandomuser]

https://www.mediaite.com/news/cnn-gi...eet-town-hall/

poes law in full effect i cant tell if this is satire or not..

[Breccia]

poes law in full effect i cant tell if this is satire or not..

I was just talking about that.

Mediaite is a left-leaning site, so it's safe to assume their "trashing" of CNN is satire. In addition to the whole "comparing Trump to a six-year-old child meeting Cookie Monster" bit, of course.

[RadasNoir]

I’m not saying I want Trump hurt or suffering, but tell me another way Trump takes the disease personally? If he had it, he wouldn’t be making dangerous claims as cures, but can talk about him being the best at recovery and how he did it. Trump calling him self the champion of corona, might be our only hope to get this disease handled.

Maybe this is just the glass half-empty perspective, but I think Trump getting it and recovering from it would actually be one of the worst things that could possibly happen. I'm already positive that Trump is going to attempt to sell himself as the "President Who Defeated Covid-19" as we get closer to November, regardless of what state the country is in at that point, but that title gains a modicum of truth (to his followers, anyway) if he manages to contract the virus and recover from it.

Worse, he may downplay the symptoms he suffered (if he suffers at all, given that he'll immediately have access to some of the best healthcare in the country) and insist that since he had it and it "wasn't that bad", that it's not actually the big deal that the "fake news" is making it out to be, and that the country should go back to "normal".

[D Luniz]

Honestly thought 'it's just shotgun' was an english medical proverb I wasn't familiar with for a moment there.

I thought it was some way of saying "its just randomly hitting everywhere"

[Acidbaron]

Maybe this is just the glass half-empty perspective, but I think Trump getting it and recovering from it would actually be one of the worst things that could possibly happen. I'm already positive that Trump is going to attempt to sell himself as the "President Who Defeated Covid-19" as we get closer to November, regardless of what state the country is in at that point, but that title gains a modicum of truth (to his followers, anyway) if he manages to contract the virus and recover from it.

Worse, he may downplay the symptoms he suffered (if he suffers at all, given that he'll immediately have access to some of the best healthcare in the country) and insist that since he had it and it "wasn't that bad", that it's not actually the big deal that the "fake news" is making it out to be, and that the country should go back to "normal".

Bolsonaro is doing that right now so you have a point, although he appears to be running around with a bad cough so it could very well end up being something that might backfire.

[arandomuser]

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings...-meeting-elbe/

do you think if president bernie sanders did a joint statement praising a communist nation with a foreign leader who commits cyber attacks on us on a daily basis, including taking hacked intelligence from that nation for their election campaign- that fox news would give him a free pass?

[Breccia]

This Atlantic Article raises three interesting points about McConnell.

1) He doesn't represent Kentucky in anything other than name.

The biggest contributor to Mitch McConnell’s 2020 campaign and leadership committee is a PAC headquartered in Englewood, New Jersey. The second is a conduit for funds from real-estate investors. The third is the tobacco company Altria. The fourth is the parcel delivery service UPS. The fifth is the Eli Lilly pharmaceutical corporation. The sixth is the home health-care company, LHC Group. The seventh is the Blackstone hedge fund. And so on and on.

2) He's not first up to bat.

State bankruptcy is not some passing fancy. Republicans have been advancing the idea for more than a decade. Back in 2011, Jeb Bush and Newt Gingrich published a jointly bylined op-ed advocating state bankruptcy as a solution for the state of California. The Tea Party Congress elected in 2010 explored the idea of state bankruptcy in House hearings and Senate debates. Newt Gingrich promoted it in his run for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination.

3) There's a good reason why McConnell wants states to go bankrupt.

(the whole rest of the article)

I'll sum up as best I can. Why can't states go bankrupt? Because bankruptcy is a federal process in which a federal judge decides which debts must be paid and how. The Constitution does not grant the federal government this power over states, in the same way that anything not specifically given to the federal government is given to the states.

It's also no secret that, while donor states are primarily Democrat and recipient states are primarily Republican (not exactly new info around these forums), most states do owe a good deal of money -- just like the federal government does. The federal judiciary, however, has recently been stacked with Republican judges.

And this is where it becomes a hostage situation. A Democratic state will have to be more careful about its budget in the future, likely cutting services, or risk going before a Republican judge who would say "you have to pay your bond holders before your pensioners".

Like Trump's coronavirus excuse for his immigration ban, McConnell's state bankruptcy coronavirus excuse was never really the point. The point was to put permanent wetchdogs over Democrat states, long after he and the Party of Trump are removed from power.

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do you think if president bernie sanders did a joint statement praising a communist nation with a foreign leader who commits cyber attacks on us on a daily basis, including taking hacked intelligence from that nation for their election campaign- that fox news would give him a free pass?

Sorry, is "the meeting on the Elbe" another way of saying "Russia owns Ukraine"? Because I seem to remember Trump saying he would have stopped it and suggesting he was going to do something about it. Standing side-by-side on a virtual podium wasn't what he told his rabid fanbase he'd do.