Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Dontrike]

Honestly, all I can think of is that this is one of those "hold China accountable" things, but he couldn't come up with a way to "make China pay" or whatever and this is the best he could do.

Either way, man needs to really come back to reality.

I won't disagree that China needs to pay in various forms, for a myriad of different reasons including the copyright shit they pull, but Top Gun 2 and Bohemian Rhapsody shouldn't be the thing to focus on as to why you did that to begin with.

[Breccia]

Fauci will testify before the Senate, but not the House.

On May 12.

Sounds like Trump is afraid of what questions Fauci would be asked.

[Dontrike]

Fauci will testify before the Senate, but not the House.

On May 12.

Sounds like Trump is afraid of what questions Fauci would be asked.

Gotta control the message as best as possible, else people might wise up.

[Breccia]

Gotta control the message as best as possible, else people might wise up.

I'm not even sure this makes sense. There aren't a lot of options here.

1) The Senate Chair in question might only ask pre-approved questions that Trump or he wrote. That will immediately be denounced by the Democrats, "We can't ask questions, Trump doesn't want the truth" and they'll be right.

2) Or, the Senate Chair could block questions as they happen, in public. Then everyone sees it, and that will immediately be denounced by the Democrats, "We can't ask questions, Trump doesn't want the truth" and they'll be right.

3) Or, the Senate Chair could block questions, but the testimony will be behind closed doors. Not only does a closed-door testimony fail to help the American public in any way, but once again, that will immediately be denounced by the Democrats, "We can't ask questions, Trump doesn't want the truth" and they'll be right.

4) Or, the Senate Chair could allow questions as normal, in which case, why block the House that would ask the same questions?

My pick is #3. Techincally Option 5 is "Trump fires Fauci in the next nine days, blocking all testimony". That's bordering on suicide.

[Felya]

I'm not even sure this makes sense. There aren't a lot of options here.

1) The Senate Chair in question might only ask pre-approved questions that Trump or he wrote. That will immediately be denounced by the Democrats, "We can't ask questions, Trump doesn't want the truth" and they'll be right.

2) Or, the Senate Chair could block questions as they happen, in public. Then everyone sees it, and that will immediately be denounced by the Democrats, "We can't ask questions, Trump doesn't want the truth" and they'll be right.

3) Or, the Senate Chair could block questions, but the testimony will be behind closed doors. Not only does a closed-door testimony fail to help the American public in any way, but once again, that will immediately be denounced by the Democrats, "We can't ask questions, Trump doesn't want the truth" and they'll be right.

4) Or, the Senate Chair could allow questions as normal, in which case, why block the House that would ask the same questions?

My pick is #3. Techincally Option 5 is "Trump fires Fauci in the next nine days, blocking all testimony". That's bordering on suicide.

I think 5 might be to face the scrutiny of blocking question, with the assumption that Trump’s victory dance will cover it up... as always.

[Breccia]

HAHAHAHAHAHA Kudlow went on CNN to defend the "airtight" quote HAHAHHAHA

His defense:

My quote then was based on the actual facts, which at the time, there were only 40 or 50 cases, and it was contained — particularly after President Trump boldly put up travel restrictions with China. There was hardly any cases. Yes, some doctors were more fearful. Other doctors had many different things to say. ... Then, as the virus spread exponentially in ways that virtually as no one could have predicted, of course we changed our mind.

Going forward, the president and the vice president have taken strong measures ... to deal with this unexpected outbreak. And I think the sort of ankle-biting that's going on in Washington is just incorrect. You have to deal with the information at hand. When the information changes, we changed our strategy. So did everyone else around the world

CNN event threw Kudlow's "airtight" video in his face.

Now, props to Kudlow for doing this. He tried so hard, and on CNN, too. But he was doomed from the start. If you say "It is contained" and it turns out not to be contained, you're just wrong. And as we've seen, closing some of the travel with China didn't work. Closing travel with Europe (eventually) didn't work. This isn't the kind of race that gives out participation trophies.

[Felya]

Now, props to Kudlow for doing this. He tried so hard, and on CNN, too. But he was doomed from the start. If you say "It is contained" and it turns out not to be contained, you're just wrong. And as we've seen, closing some of the travel with China didn't work. Closing travel with Europe (eventually) didn't work. This isn't the kind of race that gives out participation trophies.

I question the actual desire to close Europe travel, because he initially left off the only two places he had golf courses in. You could almost hear the swine squeal... fine, but you are not damaging my property.

Edit: To continue with the swine theme... why was our pandemic response built out of straw? It didn’t take much huffing or puffing, to blow that house down. (Rhetorical, I can read this thread. lol)

[Breccia]

why was our pandemic response built out of straw?

Trump fired the carpenter and bricklayer.

"It's just one wolf coming over from China. It's going to be fine."

[Nellise]

Edit: To continue with the swine theme... why was our pandemic response built out of straw? It didn’t take much huffing or puffing, to blow that house down. (Rhetorical, I can read this thread. lol)

I know you said it's rhetorical, but here's this anyway:

That first interview with Kudlow is from February 25th, but there were already deaths in Italy by then and yet he says no one could foresee what was coming. Also, China doesn't build 2 hospitals in 2 weeks and shut down a major region for a "nothing". Which means either he's lying or stupid. I'm going with stupid. Anyone with half a brain could see what was coming. But when you load up the leadership of the government with rich, but stupid, people who are used to having a way to buy themselves out of problems, they don't need to plan for most things because money solves all their problems and so they let things degrade thinking they'll just spend money fixing whatever comes up later (or have the government bail them out). But this is something money can't solve and so they have no idea what to do with it.

[Paranoid Android]

Oh our narcassit President can't help it.

Trump replied to a tweet about missing his rallies. He needs his adulation and attention. We all know the reason he hates social distancing is he can't hold his rallies.

....And then came a Plague, a great and powerful Plague, and the World was never to be the same again! But America rose from this death and destruction, always remembering its many lost souls, and the lost souls all over the World, and became greater than ever before!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...562486784?s=19

WTF!?

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Dangit, I'm in the Trump rabbit hole.

So nice to see this great honor. Thank you (but haven’t played golf in a long time)!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...428448768?s=19

So Trump replying to a tweet of his own golf club in Turnberry. Thus violating ethics laws promoting his business.

Yes, he really wants to golf. The other reason he hates social distancing.

[Redwyrm]

Thin-skinned Man-baby strikes again

Trump rips George W. Bush after he calls for unity amid coronavirus outbreak

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...d1J?li=BBnb7Kz

President Trump on Sunday took aim at George W. Bush after the former Republican president issued a call to push partisanship aside amid the outbreak of the novel coronavirus.

In a three-minute video shared on Twitter on Saturday, Bush urged Americans to remember "how small our differences are in the face of this shared threat."

"In the final analysis, we are not partisan combatants. We are human beings, equally vulnerable and equally wonderful in the sight of god," Bush said. "We rise or fall together, and we are determined to rise."

Ok, nice statement from Bush, what's wrong with that....

In an early morning tweet on Sunday, Trump called out Bush for his failure to support him as he faced an impeachment trial earlier this year over his alleged dealings with Ukraine. He cited apparent comments from Fox News anchor Pete Hegseth, who asked why Bush didn't push for "putting partisanship aside" amid the trial.

"He was nowhere to be found in speaking up against the greatest Hoax in American history," Trump said.

Ah, Bush didn't kiss ass for the required time limit.

[Dacien]

Oh good grief, just withering.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/...is-a-travesty/

If that article is talking about you, I don't know how you don't just shrivel up into a corn cob.

[Redwyrm]

Oh good grief, just withering.[/url]

National Review.... what Free Republic wasn't available?

[Benggaul]

National Review.... what Free Republic wasn't available?

Dacien stopped trying to cover up what he was a long time ago. Best just to ignore and move on. Nothing informative or meaningful to add to the discussion at any stage--even from the point of view of a Trump supporter.

[fwc577]

Thin-skinned Man-baby strikes again

Trump rips George W. Bush after he calls for unity amid coronavirus outbreak

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...d1J?li=BBnb7Kz



Ok, nice statement from Bush, what's wrong with that....



Ah, Bush didn't kiss ass for the required time limit.

Not only that, a call for partisanship in this case would've meant for the GOP to lay down their fucking partisanship and hold a real trial and not that sham of a trial we got.

[Xyonai]

I saw This Tweet capped and posted elsewhere, and had to verify if it was true because it's some extra special crazy.

....And then came a Plague, a great and powerful Plague, and the World was never to be the same again! But America rose from this death and destruction, always remembering its many lost souls, and the lost souls all over the World, and became greater than ever before!

[arandomuser]

Pompeo is saying the virus came from a lab

i wont trust him til i see the evidence

but i want to ask if the virus did leak from a lab, is there any real political implication except "trump is great and theres nothing wrong he did?"

i mean in terms of actual geopolitical strategy, we already have tariffs, you could sanction them i guess, but trump also threw out TPP our trade agreement with outher asian countries, Leaving the UN and who will only INCREASE chinas influence over the world ( belt and road)
we wont go to war with them due to M.A.D
unless you think trump is actually crazy enough to default on our bond debt and crash the global economy ( he might be)

[Polyxo]

I'm not even sure this makes sense. There aren't a lot of options here.

1) The Senate Chair in question might only ask pre-approved questions that Trump or he wrote. That will immediately be denounced by the Democrats, "We can't ask questions, Trump doesn't want the truth" and they'll be right.

2) Or, the Senate Chair could block questions as they happen, in public. Then everyone sees it, and that will immediately be denounced by the Democrats, "We can't ask questions, Trump doesn't want the truth" and they'll be right.

3) Or, the Senate Chair could block questions, but the testimony will be behind closed doors. Not only does a closed-door testimony fail to help the American public in any way, but once again, that will immediately be denounced by the Democrats, "We can't ask questions, Trump doesn't want the truth" and they'll be right.

4) Or, the Senate Chair could allow questions as normal, in which case, why block the House that would ask the same questions?

My pick is #3. Techincally Option 5 is "Trump fires Fauci in the next nine days, blocking all testimony". That's bordering on suicide.

Well, 5 wouldn't actually bar Fauci from testimony anymore.

[Orbitus]

Oh good grief, just withering.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/...is-a-travesty/

If that article is talking about you, I don't know how you don't just shrivel up into a corn cob.

But the Flynn Case isn't a travesty. The morons at National Review, and their readers that believe the bullshit think's its a travesty. Multiple other investigators have said they have done the same fucking thing that was shown in the notes. If he wasn't guilty, why did he plead guilty? Oh, right, because he is FUCKING GUILTY. He stated it multiple times, on Twitter, to the judge of the case, and several other times. This is bullshit, and I hope that traitor enjoys prison.

[Polyxo]

Oh good grief, just withering.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/...is-a-travesty/

If that article is talking about you, I don't know how you don't just shrivel up into a corn cob.

"But he lied so convincingly!"